Married_Him_@_Disney
A Disney Mom
- Joined
- Feb 28, 2007
I would not purchase the DDP Light plan. I can't see eating two meals a day of burgers/fries, pizza or sandwiches for 8-10 days.
Don't forget the Turkey Legs and Chicken Finger Basket!!
I would not purchase the DDP Light plan. I can't see eating two meals a day of burgers/fries, pizza or sandwiches for 8-10 days.
I'd love for them to add the tip back in as part of the package with the option of selecting either 10, 15, 18 or 20% at the end. Then we could tip based on service but still have an all inclusive package.
I thought it was $40, not $38. My bad.
Considering that $10 is tip on a $50 meal and an appetizer is generally $6 - $11, I think $50 is fair. You are still making out.
And remember, the regular DDP price actually went down $1 from 2007 to 2008 - and dropped the tip and appy. So, if the price goes to $50 and both are added back in (please, please, please, LOL!) - that's only an $11 increase from 2007 to 2009. If you divide that over 2 years (if they had never made the 2008 changes), that's $5.50 increase per year. Still a large increase, but I think it's been well pointed out here how MUCH people were saving on 2007 and prior years plans, so this would just be getting it evened out a bit. Even on the 2008 plan, we still would've saved a good deal of $$, and if the change for 2009 is to $50 with tip and appy (even without appy), we'll still save $$.
I'd love for them to add the tip back in as part of the package with the option of selecting either 10, 15, 18 or 20% at the end. Then we could tip based on service but still have an all inclusive package.
I havent gone through all of the posts to see if this has been mentioned, but I would like to have the option of an appetizer OR dessert with the basic plan. That way I could order an appetizer for me and dh to split and he could order the dessert to split. Makes sense to me!! There isn't much cost difference between apps and desserts, so why not!?!
Just to clarify things, for those who are too deep in the Disney Kool-aid (most of the people around here)....
Disney didn't cut back the dining plan because people complained there was too much food or the service was bad. They wanted to increase the profits they make with the plan. They just spun to make it seem that they were doing what the customers really wanted.
I mean their talking about decreasing the plan cost was the biggest BS ever. I mean they brough it down $1 and reduced the benefit by $15-20 per day.
Joe
I wonder what the dxdp price would be if the basic went to $50?
We've never used any ddp but intend to use the deluxe plan in Jan, I hope there's no major price increases like these.
Disney didn't cut back the dining plan because people complained there was too much food or the service was bad. They wanted to increase the profits they make with the plan. They just spun to make it seem that they were doing what the customers really wanted.
I mean their talking about decreasing the plan cost was the biggest BS ever. I mean they brough it down $1 and reduced the benefit by $15-20 per day.
Joe
And as PP said, if the DDP is $50 what will the deluxe be....it's already about $60 now, so I'd say that would be BIG money....
And remember, the regular DDP price actually went down $1 from 2007 to 2008 - and dropped the tip and appy. So, if the price goes to $50 and both are added back in (please, please, please, LOL!) - that's only an $11 increase from 2007 to 2009. If you divide that over 2 years (if they had never made the 2008 changes), that's $5.50 increase per year. Still a large increase, but I think it's been well pointed out here how MUCH people were saving on 2007 and prior years plans, so this would just be getting it evened out a bit. Even on the 2008 plan, we still would've saved a good deal of $$, and if the change for 2009 is to $50 with tip and appy (even without appy), we'll still save $$.
I've never seen a 1 TS entree for $40. Most are in the $22-27 range, and the most expensive I've seen are a couple of $35 steaks at Le Cellier (which are both overpriced by at least $10 - vastly inferior to a $32 steak at Charley's). I like LC, but they don't serve $35 steaks there!Right - it is still a value.
Snack - $4
Counter Service Meal - $12 (drink, meal, dessert)
Table Service App - $8
Table Service Entree - $40
Table Service Dessert - $7
Table Service Tip - $14
Cost - $85 / OOP Expense - $50 / You sved $15
While $50 would be a big hike, if they added everything back in, it would still be a value....and nobody is forced to use the dining plan.
I've never seen a 1 TS entree for $40. Most are in the $22-27 range, and the most expensive I've seen are a couple of $35 steaks at Le Cellier (which are both overpriced by at least $10 - vastly inferior to a $32 steak at Charley's). I like LC, but they don't serve $35 steaks there!
If you use $25, which is much more realistic, your math changes quite a bit.
Also, you miscalculated the tip. Even if we accept the $40 entree (which doesn't exist), the total meal is $55. 18% of $55 is $9.90, not $14.
If we use a more reasonable $25 average entree, the meal becomes $40 and the tip is only $7.20...about half of your estimate.
The other fallacy is that, any time you compare DDP cost to the inflated menu prices, you will always get a number that looks good.
That is only a valid comparison if you would actually order all of the items if you were paying cash. Most would not, and very few people would always order the most expensive item on the menu if they were paying cash.
I can twist the math a number of ways to make DDP look good, but they're not real-world comparisons.
Just to clarify things, for those who are too deep in the Disney Kool-aid (most of the people around here)....
Disney didn't cut back the dining plan because people complained there was too much food or the service was bad. They wanted to increase the profits they make with the plan. They just spun to make it seem that they were doing what the customers really wanted.
I mean their talking about decreasing the plan cost was the biggest BS ever. I mean they brough it down $1 and reduced the benefit by $15-20 per day.
Joe