Plans have been filed for DVC expansion at Caribbean Beach Resort

Personally, I like the idea of moderate suites...bigger/nicer than AoA suites. With my crew, those suites are not at all appealing in terms of sleeping arrangements. Yes, it's more space, but I'd honestly rather "squeeze" into a deluxe that sleeps 5. The deluxe has two *real* beds and a comfy (to my youngest) Murphy bed. I can't see how a pull-down table bed would be comfortable for two. Plus, and I know this may sound snobby, it's a value - the other amenities are just not there.

However, I wouldn't stay on property for more than 4-5 nights in a deluxe because at some point, we need our space. Our last trip that is what we did - stayed at BCR for 4 nights and then off-site 2BR for 5 nights.

On the other hand, Disney is missing out on the dollars that are being spent on rented DVC points. The cost to rent a studio or 1BR is more than the AoA suites, but the accommodations (and locations) are nicer, too. And people rent those points like crazy!

So, if Disney did moderate suites that are a step down from DVC and a step up from AoA, and priced it around the same cost to rent points, they could recapture those dollars and maybe entice those of us with "large" families to stay on property longer.
All this makes a lot of sense
 
What's the hostility for? I've been on board this whole time that a canal is not an easy fix and that a connection to Epcot/DHS is unlikely.

Did you wake up on the sensitive side of the magic kingdom this morning?

"You" was non specific. Not actually YOU.

I was using your point to expand the argument into the overall discussion.

I know where "you" stand and we are in near total agreement.

CEASE FIRE!!!
 
Did you wake up on the sensitive side of the magic kingdom this morning?

"You" was non specific. Not actually YOU.

I was using your point to expand the argument into the overall discussion.

I know where "you" stand and we are in near total agreement.

CEASE FIRE!!!

k. :tongue:
 
I love CBR, but if they build a tower it will ruin the feel of the entire resort. Are they really building a tower for this?
 


It's more near Aruba, no?

You are right. I still think it could be possible to connect to Epcot somehow. Don't think they would go through the expense to expand the canal but maybe foot access with pedestrian bridge over buena vista drive. Then the access would be there for those that want to walk.
 
You are right. I still think it could be possible to connect to Epcot somehow. Don't think they would go through the expense to expand the canal but maybe foot access with pedestrian bridge over buena vista drive. Then the access would be there for those that want to walk.

No one said it impossible. We said it highly unlikely due to logistics, cost, and ROI.
 


I think it's more likely that the project will not have a water transportation component, at least not initially. Had it a water component, the water management district permit would be highly likely to show it.
Since the permit doesn't necessarily show other things, it is still possible an alternate transportation option is on the table.
 
You are right. I still think it could be possible to connect to Epcot somehow. Don't think they would go through the expense to expand the canal but maybe foot access with pedestrian bridge over buena vista drive. Then the access would be there for those that want to walk.

As mentioned, doable but very extreme.

Just walked by though, would be a great exit IMO. About as far away from IG and EPCOT entrance as possible.

Be nice to pop in for a beer And brat at Germany.

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Uh, whut? What easy park access???


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It's clear we are coming at this from wildly different points of view but I still enjoy the discussion. The park access to CBR is already a done deal, lock it up, take it to the bank, etch it in stone, it's happening. It just hasn't been announced yet and likely won't be announced for years. People keep pulling their hair out and coming up with these wild theories about new classes of accommodations or different point levels for DVC. None of which work or make sense. The simplest answer is the most obvious. It will be DVC worthy of deluxe status just like every other hotel built in the swamp for at least the last decade. That means it will have easy park access; that's it, end of story, game over, that's all she wrote. Some people want to exaggerate the cost and the complexity of connecting CBR and make it sound like it would be easier to colonize Mars. The numbers, facts, and simple truth is that it's relatively small project which short term cost are dwarfed by future earnings and long term savings. I'm sure others will disagree but that is the fun part.
 
Hey I just thought of a solution.

New DVC resort themed to Brazil/Rio/Carnivale, then add Brazil in WS. Then you just run a gondola from the top of the resort down into the park.

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Park access - SOLVED
Seeing resort from inside park - SOLVED


(BTW - I am just joking - please don't anybody devote any time to tearing apart my silly idea.)
 
It's clear we are coming at this from wildly different points of view but I still enjoy the discussion. The park access to CBR is already a done deal, lock it up, take it to the bank, etch it in stone, it's happening. It just hasn't been announced yet and likely won't be announced for years. People keep pulling their hair out and coming up with these wild theories about new classes of accommodations or different point levels for DVC. None of which work or make sense. The simplest answer is the most obvious. It will be DVC worthy of deluxe status just like every other hotel built in the swamp for at least the last decade. That means it will have easy park access; that's it, end of story, game over, that's all she wrote. Some people want to exaggerate the cost and the complexity of connecting CBR and make it sound like it would be easier to colonize Mars. The numbers, facts, and simple truth is that it's relatively small project which short term cost are dwarfed by future earnings and long term savings. I'm sure others will disagree but that is the fun part.

this thread has been my favorite thing all week.
 

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