Daily Room checks

[Jen1995]

I wonder how many people are bothering to read the new Room Occupied signs. Because they clearly state they do reserve the right to enter the room at any time, including when that sign is out. It does also state they will knock, and if they are not doing that, then that is a problem.

The right of entry is something Disney has always had. It was used sparingly and with guests' comfort, safety, and dignity in mind (maintenance, something highly suspicious, etc). The signs do NOT state the REAL policy, which is that Disney will enter at any time every day (sometimes multiple times a day) whether you like it or not, for no actual reason, without any regard for your room occupied sign. Most people have no idea that is Disney's new policy. They think it is like Hilton's. which only enters if your DND/RO sign is up for 24 continuous hours.

But as a single woman who has traveled solo, I wouldn't have a problem at all with them doing a room check. If I felt at all uncomfortable I would simply walk out of the room.

You can't simply walk out of the room if someone has entered your room to harm you. Disney has now created a massive loophole for anyone who wants to enter your room - all they have to do is ask.

 

[snappy]

I don’t have a problem with room checks per se. I have a problem with room checks at 8 am, 10 pm, or getting repeated calls to do a room check, all of which have been reported. I also have a problem when it appears, to me only, that room checks are having an impact on HK ‘s ability to either competently clean rooms or to report maintenance issues to appropriate personnel.

 

[pattyw]

@Jen1995 and @snappy

to all of your posts

 

[HopperFan]

Yes I have noticed several threads on this subject have been closed in the past.

Yes. Only first hand reports are permitted, and since DIS is a TINY fraction of the guests going to Disney and not even all DIS posters shared their experience ... we can take that number and multiply it substantially. There are plenty of experiences shared elsewhere so this is not a rare occurrence and here we are almost 9-10 mos out and Disney has still not gotten the situation under control.

I get it Disney has a problem, a problem no one else is dealing with right now (they are only hotels doing this) ... and they have chosen a very invasive, to guests, method of trying to deal with it. They are checking rooms for red flags and they are checking the guests themselves.

I did experience this first hand, I felt very uncomfortable that I was clearly targeted and followed. And in my several trips since and my trip next month ... I am staying offsite. Offsite where I have a real DND sign and gotten a letter assuring me if I use it they will not walk in on me.

 

[maxiesmom]

The right of entry is something Disney has always had. It was used sparingly and with guests' comfort, safety, and dignity in mind (maintenance, something highly suspicious, etc). The signs do NOT state the REAL policy, which is that Disney will enter at any time every day (sometimes multiple times a day) whether you like it or not, for no actual reason, without any regard for your room occupied sign. Most people have no idea that is Disney's new policy. They think it is like Hilton's. which only enters if your DND/RO sign is up for 24 continuous hours.

Have you read the new sign? It seems very clear to me. It states they reserve to enter your room at any time even when the sign is displayed. For maintenance, safety, security, or for any other purpose. How is that not clear? If people read that and still think the sign means their room will be bypassed when the sign is up, that is on them.

 

[pattyw]

I am staying offsite. Offsite where I have a real DND sign

Same here!! The Universal hotels value a guests' privacy and my business!!

 

[snappy]

Have you read the new sign? It seems very clear to me. It states they reserve to enter your room at any time even when the sign is displayed. For maintenance, safety, security, or for any other purpose. How is that not clear? If people read that and still think the sign means their room will be bypassed when the sign is up, that is on them.

I hope no one with bad intentions also reads the signs.

 

[snappy]

I see a potential lucrative marketing campaign for universal involving a real DND policy.

And it doesn’t involve putting yet another cutesy character on a RO sign like Tink.

 

[maxiesmom]

I hope no one with bad intentions also reads the signs.

To me, putting a Do Not Disturb up could be just as problematic. Doesn't that just alert that someone is in the room? All someone with bad intentions would have to do is knock, and it would be easy to get the door opened.

 

[pattyw]

I see a potential lucrative marketing campaign for universal involving a real DND policy.

And it doesn’t involve putting yet another cutesy character on a RO sign like Tink.

Yep- no cutesy characters necessary! Just DND!!

And free unlimited express pass for all rides when staying at a lovely deluxe hotel!

 

[kaytieeldr]

Why is that relevant, when they are entering rooms that are *locked* that have "room occupied" signs on them?

The specific situation involved (breaching of) security latches and [literally] walking in on people. Issues are easier to discuss when all parties say what they mean.

i comprehend *locked*, and i comprehend *room-occupied sign*. The specific concern to which i responded was the security latch. Again, no, there is no report of any WDW CM breaching the security latch and entering any room. There is also nothing to suggest this will occur at any future point - barring, for example, emergency situations such as the latch being engaged for multiple consecutive days and a strange odor emanating from the room.

 

[snappy]

The specific situation involved (breaching of) security latches and [literally] walking in on people. Issues are easier to discuss when all parties say what they mean.

i comprehend *locked*, and i comprehend *room-occupied sign*. The specific concern to which i responded was the security latch. Again, no, there is no report of any WDW CM breaching the security latch and entering any room. There is also nothing to suggest this will occur at any future point - barring, for example, emergency situations such as the latch being engaged for multiple consecutive days and a strange odor emanating from the room.

I have less faith that it hasn’t happened or won’t happen st some future point.

 

[Jen1995]

Have you read the new sign? It seems very clear to me. It states they reserve to enter your room at any time even when the sign is displayed. For maintenance, safety, security, or for any other purpose. How is that not clear? If people read that and still think the sign means their room will be bypassed when the sign is up, that is on them.

I have very clearly stated what the problem is. You just quoted my explanation, so it's seems redundant to repeat it.

What isn't clear is why certain DISers have spent months trying to shut down discussion about this policy. It's one's choice to think it's fine for "security" to walk in on people and stare at them sleeping or walk in on them when they are on the toilet. Many, MANY people don't think it's fine.
If they do think it's fine, why do they have such an investment in arguing with those who don't think it's fine? That's a lot of energy invested in something that one feels indifferent about.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I believe there were additional incidents of walk ins posted in threads on this subject that have been closed and not bookmarked on the first page of the resorts forum, but I don’t have time to go find them and count them. May be others that happen to guests that don’t post on the DIS.

One such experience was copied there and included in my count - i think it was the one where housekeeping walked in a few minutes after tge guest arrival. I took it at face value, that there was no knock first. I used only the one thread that was cited by the poster to whom i replied.

Maybe one or more non-DIS posters did experience a security latch breach. Ridiculously unusual that such an exprience was not noted somewhere, anywhere. Not here, not Facebook, not another forum, not the Orlando Sentinel, not word of mouth. Especially since numerous people have ejther linked or referenced youtube in these threads, while others have providec the actual instructions.

 

[pattyw]

What isn't clear is why certain DISers have spent months trying to shut down discussion about this policy. It's one's choice to think it's fine for "security" to walk in on people and stare at them sleeping or walk in on them when they are on the toilet. Many, MANY people don't think it's fine.
If they do think it's fine, why do they have such an investment in arguing with those who don't think it's fine? That's a lot of energy invested in something that one feels indifferent about.

Exactly what I'm thinking!!

 

[Jen1995]

I have less faith that it hasn’t happened or won’t haporn st some future point.

Agree. And I don't get it why it matters. So it's ok to unlock a guest room and walk in without being granted entry, but it's not ok to unlock a guest room with the latch and do the same thing? What difference does it make, when people often cannot engage the latch because others in their party are outside the room? In both instances, Disney is unlocking the door and walking in whether guests have opened the door to grant access or not. So if one has no problem with them unlocking the deadbolt, why would one have a problem with them unlocking the latch? It's a random line to draw, given that they have already decided Disney can and should open the door no matter what.

 

[Jen1995]

One such experience was copied there and included in my count - i think it was the one where housekeeping walked in a few minutes after tge guest arrival. I took it at face value, that there was no knock first. I used only the one thread that was cited by the poster to whom i replied.

Maybe one or more non-DIS posters did experience a security latch breach. Ridiculously unusual that such an exprience was not noted somewhere, anywhere. Not here, not Facebook, not another forum, not the Orlando Sentinel, not word of mouth. Especially since numerous people have ejther linked or referenced youtube in these threads, while others have providec the actual instructions.

I'm curious, would you have a problem with Disney opening the latch? If so, why?

 

[kaytieeldr]

It's one's choice to think it's fine for "security" to walk in on people and stare at them sleeping or walk in on them when they are on the toilet. Many, MANY people don't think it's fine

*Walk in on* implies *without immediate prior notice*, i.e. without knocking first. In two of the six relorts in the pinned thread, the guests themselves stated they may not have heard the knock (,not that there was or wasn't one.)p

Nobody said it is acceptable.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm curious, would you have a problem with Disney opening the latch? If so, why?

i would be surprised at the unexpected and unprecedented action, but ultimately no. No specific reason for not having an issues, but i considered the question, and no.

its one thing to be upset or outraged regarding a specific situation, but it makes no sense to me to project.

 

[kaytieeldr]

we can take that number and multiply it substantially.

Provided we also take the overall number of WDW visitors and multiply it by the same substzntial amount, sure.

What isn't clear is why certain DISers have spent months trying to shut down discussion about this policy.

Shut down? Really? Could you please explain why its apparently completely acceptable to passionately complain, but not to not complain?