lockedoutlogic
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14 pts a night to look at Aruba or 15 for Boardwalk view, beach club or wilderness lodge?
I wouldn't pay that if it was ACTUALLY Aruba
I wouldn't pay that if it was ACTUALLY Aruba
Just a guess, but I think it's something like South Florida Water managment District. The plans are showing water flow through the basins.
Looks thoroughly unimpressive to me. I don't see the splash that would make as a DVC of any level.
What's the mean?
I am sorry !!!!
Some Of us also work in environmental engineering
...just because I worked for Disney, doesn't mean I meant to go "career"
More food for thought from a source.
An expansion is also planned at CSR, those permits are not as specific though. The thought it we might see both CBR and CSR get more rooms but only one gets DVC and the other gets more rooms to offset the losses of the other.
How do you know they aren't being booked though? Moderates have always been popular which is why they have such high room counts.A CSR expansion doesn't surprise me, but I thought it was related to the convention and nothing to do with room loss at CBR. The rooms aren't being booked at CBR so are they really lost?
Well...you obviously don't work in construction, Pete...
When they build a project, say for $500 mil...do you think it's $100 in site prep and $400 on buildings, theming, and art?
...more like the opposite. Site work doesn't even flinch/get started until we're talking 9 figures...realistically.
I think you might be out of your zone here...have to know the relative costs.
Where do you think those budgets for avatar, new fantasyland, disney springs came from?
Well...avatar proves my point...it's over budget by a reportedly huge amount because my buddy joe thinks 3/4 IS FOR ART...that's how you get a 200% budget. Just like ak 1.0
How do you know they aren't being booked though? Moderates have always been popular which is why they have such high room counts.
I think that's why they would add more capacity to one of the moderates to take the blow of loss of rooms for DVC at the other.Availability for one. Second, would you convert a resort that's near 100% occupancy all the time? The current strategy is to absorb the glutton of rooms in the deluxe category by turning them into DVC. What would make us think this isn't plagued with the same issue? I think we all agree that while the moderate category is popular, CBR is not the winner in that category.
Yes - South FLorida Water Management District, though they are a state agency (there are 5 divided among the major drainage basins of Florida) mandated to review and approve stormwater and wetlands as related to development. They do have south central Florida on down into the Everglades as their jurisdiction. The plan set is too large to post the entire thing, but anyone who wants to view them can pull them up on the website. Disney's master permit number is 48-00714, which you can search for on their permitting site at http://my.sfwmd.gov/ePermitting/PopulateLOVs.do?flag=1. The plans will only show details related to the footprint of development, stormwater management systems, and wetland impacts. Details for buildings will be on building plans filed with Orange County (or Osceola County if talking about WWoS or All Star Resorts) and are not necessary for the SFWMD permits, though sometimes details are inlcuded in the associated information submitted for the permits.South Florida water management district...that's a federal office that governs all construction that can be linked to the Everglades system...
The army Corps screwed up the Everglades - which is an ecologically vital system - in the post war era building the infrastructure to create the modern paradise we know and love as "Florida"...they've tried to figure out how to fix it ever since.
That agency published all their applications online...which makes them a "insider that KNOWS people"
...like the Spirit
I think any transportation project that benefits the CBR location would likely be part of a larger system to benefit more properties.
Lets say 100 million for a canal to give an arguing point.
Would it not be cheaper to run a dedicated bus stop to the boardwalk bus stop, or even the front gate. A dedicated on demand shuttle. How long before you see the return on that canal investment.....even if the project could afford it.
I guess time will tell.I think that's why they would add more capacity to one of the moderates to take the blow of loss of rooms for DVC at the other.
Yes - South FLorida Water Management District, though they are a state agency (there are 5 divided among the major drainage basins of Florida) mandated to review and approve stormwater and wetlands as related to development. They do have south central Florida on down into the Everglades as their jurisdiction. The plan set is too large to post the entire thing, but anyone who wants to view them can pull them up on the website. Disney's master permit number is 48-00714, which you can search for on their permitting site at http://my.sfwmd.gov/ePermitting/PopulateLOVs.do?flag=1. The plans will only show details related to the footprint of development, stormwater management systems, and wetland impacts. Details for buildings will be on building plans filed with Orange County (or Osceola County if talking about WWoS or All Star Resorts) and are not necessary for the SFWMD permits, though sometimes details are inlcuded in the associated information submitted for the permits.
I am in line with this thinking. If it is just for this one resort, I can't see them building an entirely new transporation system .... now if that system would also connect to AoA and a brand new DVC resort built inbetween CBR and AoA, then yeah, I can see the cost justification
Other wise, just give the DVC part a dedicated bus to go along with the view in the tower and deluxe-like ammenaties