Madteaparty001
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- Aug 21, 2014
From today's Orlando Sentinel:
"One employee at the resort who did not want to be identified said in an email "There is such a problem on property with guests feeding the alligators thinking it's cool." There are two at the Buena Vista Palace that people regularly feed from balconies, he said".
Actually it's not even an accident. I truly hate to say it, but it's natural.This is what people need to realize. We're way too quick to point fingers and assign blame to someone when things happen. Sometimes accidents are just accidents.
my heart is breaking for this family.
Simply put, more than one. 1 out of hundreds of millions is not the basis to make a rational decision, especially drastic ones like getting rid of beaches or exterminating alligators. Signage? OK, not that I think anyone would actually pay attention to it, but sure, put it out there if it'll make you feel better. But recognize that with the way society currently is, it won't stop this from occurring.How many 2 year olds need to be killed for Disney to put proper signage that there are alligators in the lake. I don't think putting a rocky shore on the beaches is an overreaction at all.
In a court of law? There's precedent for prior knowledge of a condition. One incident in 40 years, leans toward Disney's favor. Greatly.
Still don't see an action plan on how to help the family, all talk.
edite to add: don't know why the Dis is being so weird but it's not letting me quote, was talking @dmychuds
Still don't see an action plan on how to help the family, all talk.
edite to add: don't know why the Dis is being so weird but it's not letting me quote, was talking @dmychuds
I just saw a report that there have been 26 alligator related deaths in the last 26 years and no major incidents on disney property. This isn't a common occurrence.
Typical responses in here. No mention of how we could help the family get through this time and how we could show our support to them. Rather spouting empty words about thoughts and prayers while we discuss who should be blamed, who will be sued, and of course what should be killed to make us feel safer. Not be safer, just feel safer.
Can they place more signage and should they? Yes and probably. Will this stop folks from wading into the water - no. Reality is there are those that have the "it will never happen to me attitude" as well as the "I don't need to follow the rules" attitude. To protect themselves Disney needs to change the line to - NO ENTERING the WATER. But at some point someone will choose not to follow the warnings. And then they will once again blame someone else.
Actually it's not even an accident. I truly hate to say it, but it's natural.
MG
I think a lot of people don't know about this one and or are forgetting about it.What constitutes a "major incident"? http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1986-10-12/news/0260190168_1_hitt-alligator-fort-wilderness
4 gators have already been pulled from the lake.I suspect Disney will take care of this family. I suspect we will see better signage. I KNOW the gators in the lagoon will be killed because that's Florida guidelines, not Disney. http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/managed/alligator/nuisance/
It's heartbreaking.
What do you think people can do to help them. There is nothing anyone can do. I'm sure Disney is taking care of them with expenses. I hope they have lots of family and friends to lean on during this difficult time.
Oh yeah then? What's your big plan? Are you going to donate money? Go to the funeral? Cook them a casserole? The reality is most of us cannot do anything tangible to help that family, all we can do is think of them, offer prayers whatever. AND then hopefully, come together to support the family by hopefully taking steps to make sure this doesn't happen again. Just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't make this time okay. It doesn't let Disney off the hook for whatever their part in it may be. At the end of the day, for a lot of families, seeing something like proper signage and education come out of a tragedy like this, IS helpful. It won't bring their son back, but at least they'll see Disney taking responsibility to help prevent it from happening to someone else.
I know at CSR they had so many raccoons going up to people during the day they started setting traps. One morning by accident my daughter and I took a walk and missed the sign that said no guests allowed past this point on the path and we then saw about twenty traps all filled with baby raccoons. They were all just sitting in there and when I asked a groundskeeper there he said they relocate them. To where I do not know but I never even knew there was a raccoon problem at the resorts.As humans we took over the alligators habitat. We need to learn to live in their world, not kill them and remove them from ours. As a fellow Canadian I'm shocked and slightly disgusted at your blunt views. Dangerous animal are will always be around. Unless they pose an actual threat to someone, most of them are left alone. What it really comes down to is people need to be educated. Btw, when was the last time you saw a polar bear walk down Main Street?
I completely agree with both of you, if you followed the responses between myself and dmychuds, you would see that. The user was condemning us for discussing this tragedy on a discussion board.