Question about TSA precheck and documents needed.

[soxyes]

Hi Everyone,
We're going for TSA precheck next week and I have a question regarding minors...
My daughter is 15. She won't have a drivers license until next February. We have a Passport Card for her that expired this past March 2019. On the TSA site, I was able to select this for her "Passport Book or Card (expired within 12 months)" . I think this would apply to the Passport Card that just expired, but now I'm wondering if they are thinking will expire in the next 12 months.
Does anyone have any idea about this or other photo ID options for minors? (We have her Birth Certificate, school ID, drivers permit (no photo on that).)
I tried calling today but they are closed for the holiday. I'll try again tomorrow, but thought maybe someone here might know.
Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[NYCgrrl]

My interpretation is that "expired within 12 months" means that your DD's card is fine for the purpose of a TSA pre check. Had it not expired (note tense used in the sentence) it would be fine as well. In essence her expired w/i the last 12 months passport card is acceptable.

 

[sk!mom]

Do you have a passport? That was all that I needed.

 

[robinb]

I have a Global Entry card that also gives me Precheck with my trusted traveler number. It was worth the extra $15 because we plan to travel outside the US in the next year or two.

The biggest problem for me was making the appointment to have my picture taken. I also have a RealID driver's licence and (obviously) a passport.

 

[Ciao Mickey]

But I took my spouse's name more than 40 years ago. I think I'm going to have get copies of documents in order to get precheck or Real ID. I don't believe my BC has a raised seal on it. It's barely in one piece, where my mom had it folded , the paper has torn. She gave it to me in an envelope folded and it's sat like that for these many years.

Your birth certificate is like the one my mother gave to me.

I went to the city where I was born and got a couple of certified copies of my birth certificate (I live in NJ).

I then had to get a copy of my marriage license from the town where my wedding ceremony took place.

It’s was a pain in the butt but what can you do?

My son applied for Global Entry a couple of months ago. They are so backed up that he has to go to JFK for the interview. His trip is in October and the earliest he can get an interview around here is the end of September.

 

[jo-jo]

Your birth certificate is like the one my mother gave to me.

I went to the city where I was born and got a couple of certified copies of my birth certificate (I live in NJ).

I then had to get a copy of my marriage license from the town where my wedding ceremony took place.

It’s was a pain in the butt but what can you do?

My son applied for Global Entry a couple of months ago. They are so backed up that he has to go to JFK for the interview. His trip is in October and the earliest he can get an interview around here is the end of September.

Yeah, we will have to send for several things. I'm pretty sure we won't have precheck for our end of Nov. trip. But it struck me today, I was safe enough to be given precheck for free perhaps 50 % of our trips in the last 4 or 5 years, but in order to pay for it, I have to prove I am me.

 

[jo-jo]

Sorry for being so dense..... This is from the precheck website...

tsa.gov/precheck.

Required Identification Documentation
U.S. Citizens, U.S. Nationals, or Lawful Permanent Residents
You must provide an original or certified copy* of identity/citizenship status documentation during the application process and the names on all documents must match exactly with the name provided on the application. If you have legally changed your name, you must provide an original or certified name change document (such as marriage certificates and divorce decrees) in addition to the required documentation.

Please bring one of the documents in List A to an application center.

If you do not have a document from List A, please see List B documents.

List A

• Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
• Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)
• Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
• Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver’s License (EDL) or Unexpired Enhanced Identification Card (EID)
• Permanent Resident Card (I-551) often referred to as a “Green Card”
• Unexpired Foreign Passport AND immigrant visa with I-551 annotation of “Upon Endorsement Serves as Temporary I-551 Evidencing Permanent Residence of 1 Year”
• Unexpired Re-entry Permit (I-327)

*An original or certified copy of a document must be issued by a Federal, State, Tribal, county, municipal authority, or outlying possession bearing an official seal.

List B
At least two documents are required if you do not have a document from List A. The documents must include:

1. a valid photo ID, and
2. a document that meets citizenship requirements. (e.g. one document from each column below)

Valid Photo ID

• Unexpired driver’s license issued by a State or outlying possession of the U.S.
• Unexpired temporary driver’s license plus expired driver’s license (constitutes one document)
• Unexpired photo ID card issued by the federal government or by a State or outlying possession of the U.S. This must include a federal agency, State or State agency seal or logo (such as a State university ID). Permits are not considered valid identity documents (such as gun permits).
• Unexpired U.S. military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. retired military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. military dependent’s card
• Native American tribal document with photo
• Unexpired Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
• Unexpired Merchant Mariner Credential (MMC)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

---------- AND ----------
Valid Proof of Citizenship

• U.S. Birth Certificate
• U.S. Certificate of Citizenship (N-560 or N-561)
• U.S. Certificate of Naturalization (N-550 or N-570)
• U.S. Citizen Identification Card (I-179 or I-197)
• Consular Report of Birth Abroad (FS-240)
• Certification of Report of Birth Abroad (DS-1350 or FS-545)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

**An expired U.S. passport may not be presented by itself. It must be presented with at least one other List B document.


It reads to me that even if you have a passport, if your birth certificate name is different, you still have to prove name changes.

Those who have said they just needed a passport and a check, was there a name change involved?

I am now applying for a passport card (I go on Monday) and there is nothing about bringing paperwork for any marriages. Just wants to know names and dates.

 

[NYCgrrl]

Sorry for being so dense..... This is from the precheck website...

tsa.gov/precheck.

Required Identification Documentation
U.S. Citizens, U.S. Nationals, or Lawful Permanent Residents
You must provide an original or certified copy* of identity/citizenship status documentation during the application process and the names on all documents must match exactly with the name provided on the application. If you have legally changed your name, you must provide an original or certified name change document (such as marriage certificates and divorce decrees) in addition to the required documentation.

Please bring one of the documents in List A to an application center.

If you do not have a document from List A, please see List B documents.

List A

• Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
• Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)
• Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
• Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver’s License (EDL) or Unexpired Enhanced Identification Card (EID)
• Permanent Resident Card (I-551) often referred to as a “Green Card”
• Unexpired Foreign Passport AND immigrant visa with I-551 annotation of “Upon Endorsement Serves as Temporary I-551 Evidencing Permanent Residence of 1 Year”
• Unexpired Re-entry Permit (I-327)

*An original or certified copy of a document must be issued by a Federal, State, Tribal, county, municipal authority, or outlying possession bearing an official seal.

List B
At least two documents are required if you do not have a document from List A. The documents must include:

1. a valid photo ID, and
2. a document that meets citizenship requirements. (e.g. one document from each column below)

Valid Photo ID

• Unexpired driver’s license issued by a State or outlying possession of the U.S.
• Unexpired temporary driver’s license plus expired driver’s license (constitutes one document)
• Unexpired photo ID card issued by the federal government or by a State or outlying possession of the U.S. This must include a federal agency, State or State agency seal or logo (such as a State university ID). Permits are not considered valid identity documents (such as gun permits).
• Unexpired U.S. military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. retired military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. military dependent’s card
• Native American tribal document with photo
• Unexpired Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
• Unexpired Merchant Mariner Credential (MMC)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

---------- AND ----------
Valid Proof of Citizenship

• U.S. Birth Certificate
• U.S. Certificate of Citizenship (N-560 or N-561)
• U.S. Certificate of Naturalization (N-550 or N-570)
• U.S. Citizen Identification Card (I-179 or I-197)
• Consular Report of Birth Abroad (FS-240)
• Certification of Report of Birth Abroad (DS-1350 or FS-545)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

**An expired U.S. passport may not be presented by itself. It must be presented with at least one other List B document.


It reads to me that even if you have a passport, if your birth certificate name is different, you still have to prove name changes.

Those who have said they just needed a passport and a check, was there a name change involved?

I am now applying for a passport card (I go on Monday) and there is nothing about bringing paperwork for any marriages. Just wants to know names and dates.

OK if your passport name is already listed as "Mary Smith" and your birth certificate says you are "Mary Jones" just provide your marriage OR divorce certificate to explain the new last name. That's it. If you never changed your last name legally you don't have to provide additional documentation.

 

[jo-jo]

OK if your passport name is already listed as "Mary Smith" and your birth certificate says you are "Mary Jones" just provide your marriage OR divorce certificate to explain the new last name. That's it. If you never changed your last name legally you don't have to provide additional documentation.

And if you can't???? Courts have no record and church changed hands and threw away old records.

At this point if I can the passport with no issues, that's all that really matters. As long as I can get on a plane next year. Precheck would be nice, but it's not something I need more than a couple times a year.

 

[NYCgrrl]

And if you can't???? Courts have no record and church changed hands and threw away old records.

At this point if I can the passport with no issues, that's all that really matters. As long as I can get on a plane next year. Precheck would be nice, but it's not something I need more than a couple times a year.

Gosh that's a hard one. I never changed my last name so it's simple for me. So you have a passport in what last name? Maiden or married?

 

[skyblue17]

No. If you have a valid passport, that is ALL you need. If you don't have a passport, you would need two of the documents listed from Group B. They will not be looking at any birth certificate if you have a passport.

 

[Searc]

Sorry for being so dense..... This is from the precheck website...

tsa.gov/precheck.

Required Identification Documentation
U.S. Citizens, U.S. Nationals, or Lawful Permanent Residents
You must provide an original or certified copy* of identity/citizenship status documentation during the application process and the names on all documents must match exactly with the name provided on the application. If you have legally changed your name, you must provide an original or certified name change document (such as marriage certificates and divorce decrees) in addition to the required documentation.

Please bring one of the documents in List A to an application center.

If you do not have a document from List A, please see List B documents.

List A

• Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
• Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)
• Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
• Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver’s License (EDL) or Unexpired Enhanced Identification Card (EID)
• Permanent Resident Card (I-551) often referred to as a “Green Card”
• Unexpired Foreign Passport AND immigrant visa with I-551 annotation of “Upon Endorsement Serves as Temporary I-551 Evidencing Permanent Residence of 1 Year”
• Unexpired Re-entry Permit (I-327)

*An original or certified copy of a document must be issued by a Federal, State, Tribal, county, municipal authority, or outlying possession bearing an official seal.

List B
At least two documents are required if you do not have a document from List A. The documents must include:

1. a valid photo ID, and
2. a document that meets citizenship requirements. (e.g. one document from each column below)

Valid Photo ID

• Unexpired driver’s license issued by a State or outlying possession of the U.S.
• Unexpired temporary driver’s license plus expired driver’s license (constitutes one document)
• Unexpired photo ID card issued by the federal government or by a State or outlying possession of the U.S. This must include a federal agency, State or State agency seal or logo (such as a State university ID). Permits are not considered valid identity documents (such as gun permits).
• Unexpired U.S. military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. retired military ID card
• Unexpired U.S. military dependent’s card
• Native American tribal document with photo
• Unexpired Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
• Unexpired Merchant Mariner Credential (MMC)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

---------- AND ----------
Valid Proof of Citizenship

• U.S. Birth Certificate
• U.S. Certificate of Citizenship (N-560 or N-561)
• U.S. Certificate of Naturalization (N-550 or N-570)
• U.S. Citizen Identification Card (I-179 or I-197)
• Consular Report of Birth Abroad (FS-240)
• Certification of Report of Birth Abroad (DS-1350 or FS-545)
• Expired U.S. passport within 12 months of expiration**

**An expired U.S. passport may not be presented by itself. It must be presented with at least one other List B document.


It reads to me that even if you have a passport, if your birth certificate name is different, you still have to prove name changes.

Those who have said they just needed a passport and a check, was there a name change involved?

I am now applying for a passport card (I go on Monday) and there is nothing about bringing paperwork for any marriages. Just wants to know names and dates.

My passport is in my married name. In order to get that passport, I had to show the chain of name change ~ birth certificate to marriage certificate. In order to get TSA Pre Check, all I needed to show was my passport, because my chain of name change had already been shown/proven.

 

[Searc]

And if you can't???? Courts have no record and church changed hands and threw away old records.

At this point if I can the passport with no issues, that's all that really matters. As long as I can get on a plane next year. Precheck would be nice, but it's not something I need more than a couple times a year.

Your county has no record of your marriage? You don't have your marriage certificate??

 

[DisneyOma]

After reading about the real ID and married women issues, I was wondering about TSA precheck. I have a birth ceritificate that looks like it's from the civil war. And it's not the name I now have. Everything else in my married name. What do I need to have?

Just add your marriage certificate to the mix - it shows your maiden name, and your husband's (your married) name. Or just bring an active passport.

I can't answer regarding TSA but you clearly need to get your legal documents up to date or you are going to have much much larger issues in the future.

Her legal documents are up to date - what would you have her change about her birth certificate, besides getting a new copy? It doesn't have info that needs to be updated. It's just an old copy, which would be fine, as long as it is official, stamped, and legible.

 

[Kennywood]

As it just so happens, the TSA today just announced:

Additional vendors to provide TSA PreCheck™ enrollment for travelers

National Press Release
Thursday, January 9, 2020

WASHINGTON - Transportation Security Administration (TSA) today announced that TSA PreCheck™ enrollment services will now be provided by Alclear, LLC; Telos Identity Management Solutions, LLC; and Idemia Identity & Security USA, LLC, expanding the opportunities that enable travelers to apply for TSA PreCheck.

The TSA Modernization Act, part of H.R. 302, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, required the TSA to enter into an agreement with at least two private sector entities to increase the methods and capabilities available for the public to enroll in the popular TSA PreCheck program. Today’s contract awards meet this requirement.

“We are pleased that travelers will have additional TSA PreCheck enrollment options with this latest contract award,” said TSA Administrator David Pekoske. “We expect to see the newly added TSA PreCheck vendors to begin operations by late 2020.”

Now that TSA has awarded contracts to these new enrollment providers, they will identify enrollment locations and develop their TSA PreCheck enrollment systems. TSA must review the systems to ensure they meet the latest cybersecurity requirements before the providers can enroll customers. TSA’s existing TSA PreCheck vendor, IDEMIA, will continue traveler enrollments in TSA PreCheck.

TSA PreCheck is an expedited screening program that enables low-risk travelers to enjoy a smart and efficient screening experience at more than 200 U.S. airports and with 73 airlines. For TSA PreCheck travelers, there is no need to remove shoes, laptops, 3-1-1 liquids, belts or light jackets. In 2019, 94% of passengers in TSA PreCheck lanes waited less than five minutes to go through airport security checkpoints.

TSA PreCheck is available for eligible passengers when departing from a U.S. airport and when connecting on domestic flights after returning to the U.S. Travelers who are U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals and lawful permanent residents of the U.S. can apply for TSA PreCheck.

TSA PreCheck members who have enjoyed expedited screening since 2014 are now eligible to renew their membership. To keep enjoying TSA PreCheck benefits, individuals may renew up to six months before their membership expiration date. For most members, renewal is easy and may be completed online.

TSA continues to use a number of security measures, throughout the airport. All travelers will be screened, and no individual is guaranteed expedited screening.

Source: TSA.gov

 

[jo-jo]

My passport is in my married name. In order to get that passport, I had to show the chain of name change ~ birth certificate to marriage certificate. In order to get TSA Pre Check, all I needed to show was my passport, because my chain of name change had already been shown/proven.

I have an appointment on Monday to apply for passport. To my understanding, I need my BC and DL. The form does ask for any other names used and dates of marriages or divorces, but no request for paper work. .

 

[Cindy's Mom]

Why are so many not getting that they need to bring a marriage license to show the chain that leads to the name change?? Before passports and you just needed a birth cert to cruise - I'd bring my BC, DH's would have his BC, I'd have my kid's BC's and the marriage license to prove I'm their mom and I can take them out of county.

Am I missing something here? Why is this a thing?

didn't realize this was an older thread - I'm reading the post I quoted and I'm like "you tell em, I do that too, oh I'm gonna quote this one" and it was ME HILARIOUS!

 

[jo-jo]

Your county has no record of your marriage? You don't have your marriage certificate??

No After 40 some years and few moves, some things that you thought you had, you find out you don't. Now why the court has no record, I have no idea.

didn't realize this was an older thread - I'm reading the post I quoted and I'm like "you tell em, I do that too, oh I'm gonna quote this one" and it was ME HILARIOUS!

Yeah, I brought it back to life. Back in Sept I sent away for BC and marriage license and thats when I discovered that the ML couldn't be found. One county clerk suggested getting a passport instead of the real ID, since you didn't need the paperwork. Since nothing was going to get me precheck for my Nov trip, I decided to wait until the new year to start the hunt again. Today I filled out the forms for a passport card and I see nothing about bringing in anything but BC and DL. We'll find out on Monday.

I was thinking all I would need to get TSA precheck was the passport. But reading the TSA form and some comments, that may not be enough.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

Why are so many not getting that they need to bring a marriage license to show the chain that leads to the name change?? Before passports and you just needed a birth cert to cruise - I'd bring my BC, DH's would have his BC, I'd have my kid's BC's and the marriage license to prove I'm their mom and I can take them out of county.

Am I missing something here? Why is this a thing?

z

Because sometimes it is an issue with the paperwork. I have to have my BC, my 1st marriage license, my divorce decree, and my 2nd marriage license. and... (see below)

I think because goverment documents ....DL, SS, IRS, accepts me as me. Now the chain has to be proved. And next year, as long as I don't want a Real ID from Pa, my DL is ok. Only if I want to board a plane or enter a federal building do I have to proved it.

But I took my spouse's name more than 40 years ago. I think I'm going to have get copies of documents in order to get precheck or Real ID. I don't believe my BC has a raised seal on it. It's barely in one piece, where my mom had it folded , the paper has torn. She gave it to me in an envelope folded and it's sat like that for these many years.

When I became Mrs X, 30 years ago, I had to show my BC and ML. When I became ex Mrs X, I had to show my divorce decree. When I became Mrs Bernard, I had to show my 2nd ML.

Now, even after being Mrs Bernard for over 20 years, I have to prove I'm me all over again. And that is just plain bull. If I proved I was me 30 years ago and again 28 years ago and then again 20 years ago, why do I have to prove I'm me now? It's not security. It's theater.

 

[jo-jo]

z

Because sometimes it is an issue with the paperwork. I have to have my BC, my 1st marriage license, my divorce decree, and my 2nd marriage license. and... (see below)





When I became Mrs X, 30 years ago, I had to show my BC and ML. When I became ex Mrs X, I had to show my divorce decree. When I became Mrs Bernard, I had to show my 2nd ML.

Now, even after being Mrs Bernard for over 20 years, I have to prove I'm me all over again. And that is just plain bull. If I proved I was me 30 years ago and again 28 years ago and then again 20 years ago, why do I have to prove I'm me now? It's not security. It's theater.

And further more, just a few weeks ago on our return flight, I got "free" precheck with no body checking nothing. If I want to pay for it, I need all this paperwork.

Having the same name, same house, same dishes for a few decades has to count for something.