PVB Tower Charts, Sales Date and more!!!

[CastAStone]

Back on topic, what’s the source on PVB sales not being as good as predicted?
Guide, Comptroller, Bus Driver???

Grandmother Willow, in my case.

I listened with my heart.

 

[Brittleebee]

Just got back from a stay the Poly this week. Enjoyed the buzz around the DVC kiosks and saw several guides doing grounds tours of the current Poly with potential buyers.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Oh there’s certainly no comparison to CFW. VDH remains to be seen. They can fix it - if they can admit what they did wrong.

They can’t fix CFW.

How do you think they could fix VDH?I am curious what they could do!

 

[CastAStone]

How do you think they could fix VDH?I am curious what they could do!

The problems are, as best as I can tell:

• Too expensive up front
• Too much ongoing cost (ToT+dues)
• Too many points in an ME eligible contract vs what a night costs. The building is almost entirely studios and you have to buy 6-8 nights of points. Who’s taking that long of a trip to Disneyland? Wildly limits your
• Not *that* conveniently accessible to DL or DCA
• Resale restrictions will make selling the property a massive loss

The CastAStone plan to fix VDH:

• I would lower VDH to the same price as WDW and offer actual good incentives
• I would slightly lower the cash prices to lower the corresponding TOT; it wouldn’t even cost them much since they usually discount those rooms 10-20%.
• I would set the floor at 75 or 100 points for ME for just VDH. Or say if you buy 100 points at VDH you can buy ME eligibility for, I dunno, $1500 more.
• I would advertise the monorail as part of the resort and actually open it before the park.

They’ll never do any of these things because they would cost money and force them to admit they had been arrogant. But that’s a plan to fix it.

 

[atthebeachclub]

The problems are, as best as I can tell:

• Too expensive up front
• Too much ongoing cost (ToT+dues)
• Too many points in an ME eligible contract vs what a night costs. The building is almost entirely studios and you have to buy 6-8 nights of points. Who’s taking that long of a trip to Disneyland? Wildly limits your
• Not *that* conveniently accessible to DL or DCA
• Resale restrictions will make selling the property a massive loss

The CastAStone plan to fix VDH:

• I would lower VDH to the same price as WDW and offer actual good incentives
• I would slightly lower the cash prices to lower the corresponding TOT; it wouldn’t even cost them much since they usually discount those rooms 10-20%.
• I would set the floor at 75 or 100 points for ME for just VDH. Or say if you buy 100 points at VDH you can buy ME eligibility for, I dunno, $1500 more.
• I would advertise the monorail as part of the resort and actually open it before the park.

They’ll never do any of these things because they would cost money and force them to admit they had been arrogant. But that’s a plan to fix it.

Sold! I love all of these ideas.

 

[mkatsy]

I was at Riviera this week and walked over to check on the Fuentes del Morro pool wristband situation at Caribbean Beach resort no wristbands. That’s disappointing, looks like it may only be during high volume times, vs. a permanent change like beach club. I was hoping it would inspire wristbands at the Moana splash pad.

 

[Mai Ku Tiki]

wow, that's optimistic, live entertainment on a regular basis.

How do I make sure I don't get stuck with a room next door to that?

 

[marmentrout85]

Are there any predictions on when we think they might declare more units? Or is it way too soon to tell at this point?

 

[Sandisw]

Are there any predictions on when we think they might declare more units? Or is it way too soon to tell at this point?

They won’t declare until they need to based on fast it is sellings.

 

[MICKIMINI]

A few months back, I was one of the posters who received confirmation in writing that you can rewrite a contract as long as it hasn't closed yet. Back in June, my guide confirmed via email that you can rewrite to obtain better incentives up until it closes, so if you opt for the 90 day close, you have the full 90 days to do so. He also shared I could change resorts (at that time, I was debating Riv vs Poly).

Our 90 day close was a deposit, and then payments at 30/60/90 days, paying cash. The contract closed 90 days after we paid the deposit, which is also the day the final payment is taken. We agreed the specific 30/60/90 dates with my guide at time of finalizing the deal.

We actually did a contract rewrite approx. two weeks into the 90 days when a Disney Visa deal came out and I wanted the additional savings. No issues there. It didn't change the closing date, which was still 90 days from the original deposit date.

For anyone considering this, I would reconfirm with the guide that it is possible, and not bank on it either way. It isn't in the contract legal terminology, just via email from my guide. And policies can change.

90 day close is still available. This does give you the potential for a better deal should incentives get better as @supercarrie said. We met with our guide yesterday. He said not expect better incentives in December for Poly Tower. No fire sales on the horizon either from what we were told. We did walk through the villas and they are gorgeous IMO. We are considering Poly Tower for a fixed week, but ouch, it is expensive!

 

[MICKIMINI]

I was at Riviera this week and walked over to check on the Fuentes del Morro pool wristband situation at Caribbean Beach resort no wristbands. That’s disappointing, looks like it may only be during high volume times, vs. a permanent change like beach club. I was hoping it would inspire wristbands at the Moana splash pad.

We are pretty sure we saw several groups of people trying to get into the pool at Poly and being turned away. One couple was grumbling as they were walking away pushing a stroller and I am pretty sure I heard him say "we will try again". There was a uniformed officer in the immediate area.

 

[Mai Ku Tiki]

We are pretty sure we saw several groups of people trying to get into the pool at Poly and being turned away. One couple was grumbling as they were walking away pushing a stroller and I am pretty sure I heard him say "we will try again". There was a uniformed officer in the immediate area.

Not unhappy to hear those folks were stopped.

 

[disneylandtour]

• I would advertise the monorail as part of the resort and actually open it before the park.

I'm pretty sure this is still true. But on the days that Disneyland opens for early entry (typically 7:30am), the monorail runs early as well (maybe 7:15 or 7:20am).

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

I'm pretty sure this is still true. But on the days that Disneyland opens for early entry (typically 7:30am), the monorail runs early as well (maybe 7:15 or 7:20am).

I think it has been running unreliably lately. And, of course, you have to have a DL first reservation to use it.

 

[supercarrie]

90 day close is still available. This does give you the potential for a better deal should incentives get better as @supercarrie said. We met with our guide yesterday. He said not expect better incentives in December for Poly Tower. No fire sales on the horizon either from what we were told. We did walk through the villas and they are gorgeous IMO. We are considering Poly Tower for a fixed week, but ouch, it is expensive!

While I agree that a better sale is likely not coming up, they would also never directly say it is coming, either. Otherwise, everyone would wait!

If I wanted to buy in direct, I'd buy in now as it is likely any future incentives will be evened out by future price increases, too.

 

[MICKIMINI]

While I agree that a better sale is likely not coming up, they would also never directly say it is coming, either. Otherwise, everyone would wait!

If I wanted to buy in direct, I'd buy in now as it is likely any future incentives will be evened out by future price increases, too.

Nearly 30 year DVC members, we agree!

 

[MicheyMouse]

PVB new member sales incentives sure are disappointing. The VGF add on was a great deal in comparison.

 

[Tatebeck]

While they don't announce future incentives ahead of time, don't they announce future price increases before they happen? At least they did last time. If I was on the fence I would wait, see if any future incentives are better, and maybe buy if they decide to increase the base price after they announce it but before they actually increase it

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

While I agree that a better sale is likely not coming up, they would also never directly say it is coming, either. Otherwise, everyone would wait!

If I wanted to buy in direct, I'd buy in now as it is likely any future incentives will be evened out by future price increases, too.

I’m not certain if SuperCarrie meant to she would buy direct for all properties or only for Poly, but my opinion is that PVB is unlikely to get many significant discounts for the foreseeable future and if I wanted it, I might buy 90 with a 90 day close; however, if I just wanted to be direct and didn’t care about Poly, I think either (a) at least one of RIV/AUL/CFW will get better promotions in the next 12 months, and probably VDH as well or (b) one of the sold out resorts will get a flash sale. I think they want to funnel people towards PVB this quarter for a strong opening sales boom, but at some point they will lower prices elsewhere for limited promotions to pump up their overall sales volumes.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

Have we talked about this yet?

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