That was the vibe I got, too, from the trailers.I started to watch, but stopped. I find them both highly unlikeable and manipulative. Just a weird "ick" came over me while watching.
I started to watch, but stopped. I find them both highly unlikeable and manipulative. Just a weird "ick" came over me while watching.
This is where you all are going to have to either explain it to me like I’m five and/or excuse me for being a dumb American… What is disrespectful (to anybody, let alone the queen) about reenacting a curtsy while retelling a story? Bear in mind, I only watched that scene once and I didn’t sit there and analyze every detail, but that part got a light chuckle from me and it didn’t come across as disrespectful in any way. It struck me as Meghan poking fun at herself more than anything as she described what was a fish-out-of-water moment for her.Just a couple of thoughts reading others’ thoughts.
Meghan has previously said it was Harry’s aunt, Sara Ferguson, Duchess of York, who taught her to curtsy.
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No wonder she goes a little low there.
In September, in front of the Queen’s coffin
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A lot of the commentary online from the people of the UK is that what Meghan said and demonstrated about the curtsy is disrespectful to the Queen. Fwiw.
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Also, re Meghan’s niece, she is an attorney - so it’s not like she just crawled out from under a rock or something.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...sex-fascinated-Royals-says-childhood-pal.htmlOne thing that made me go hmmmmmmm. The show starts and someone opened with saying "I want to show you guys something." Then she opened a laptop to show a clip, (Meghan looked panicked), and proceeded to show them an old clip of Meghan being interviewed. The interviewer was asking questions like what is your favorite song?, who is your favorite actress etc. M is looking at the computer watching the old interview all confused and Harry was like, "do you remember this?" and Megan said 'No." Then the interviewer asks, "William or Harry?" and they giggle and Harry laughs. Of course she said "Harry." Meghan acts like she does not remember this interview and is all bewildered asking "what year was that?" Turns out it was 2015.
Now, I remember this clip surfacing when they were engaged (along with the clip of her sitting in front of Buckingham Palace) and she said she had no idea about Harry or the Royals etc. Her reactions to the clip just seemed sooooooooooo off to me. I feel like she knew exactly what that clip was when the interviewer played it but M was being coy and acting confused. Then Harry says, "This just shows how little you knew."
It just rubbed me wrong because the reactions seemed fake. For crying out loud it was only 7 years ago. Now, being fair, maybe she forgot, maybe she was embarrassed, maybe she truly had blocked it out of her memory but for some reason that set me off and made me bitter
I am now team Kate.
Hey, I’m just a dumb American, too so I’m not sure I completely understand it, either. And I have not seen the actual clip. My comments were an observation of comments. That said, from what I gather, they feel it was deeply disrespectful to the Queen, who dedicated her life to service to the country, and longstanding traditions of reverence.This is where you all are going to have to either explain it to me like I’m five and/or excuse me for being a dumb American… What is disrespectful (to anybody, let alone the queen) about reenacting a curtsy while retelling a story? Bear in mind, I only watched that scene once and I didn’t sit there and analyze every detail, but that part got a light chuckle from me and it didn’t come across as disrespectful in any way. It struck me as Meghan poking fun at herself more than anything as she described what was a fish-out-of-water moment for her.
Funnily, I felt like I could relate to it on some level because I was once in a situation where a child in Japan, only about 4 or 5 years old, curtsied to me to express gratitude for something I had done. It took my brain a second to process what was happening, then my next thought was “Wait, people really do this?” followed by a minor internal freak out as I wondered if I was supposed to do something in return. It was so awkward! It left me a bit stunned and I later had to ask my husband if I handled it okay.
I’ve retold that story to friends and family before and, yes, I’ve included a reenactment of how the girl abruptly stiffened and clicked her heels together before kneeling into the curtsy, and guess what? I meant absolutely no disrespect to that sweet child. The whole thing is, in my mind, just a funny story about that time I was caught off guard by a curtsy and curtsy protocols. Because really, how many Americans have ever been in the position to give or receive a curtsy and it not be a joke or a part of a child’s game?
I saw this scene as lighthearted and mildly amusing. That others (British media, angry internet commenters in general) see it as some deep disrespect thrown at the Queen leaves me wondering if some people are just looking for things to be offended by.
Gonna give it a try, although I am sure part of it is that this is one of the few things that the tabloids can pick on. Although, an Australian critic saw it as an attack as well.This is where you all are going to have to either explain it to me like I’m five and/or excuse me for being a dumb American… What is disrespectful (to anybody, let alone the queen) about reenacting a curtsy while retelling a story? Bear in mind, I only watched that scene once and I didn’t sit there and analyze every detail, but that part got a light chuckle from me and it didn’t come across as disrespectful in any way. It struck me as Meghan poking fun at herself more than anything as she described what was a fish-out-of-water moment for her.
Funnily, I felt like I could relate to it on some level because I was once in a situation where a child in Japan, only about 4 or 5 years old, curtsied to me to express gratitude for something I had done. It took my brain a second to process what was happening, then my next thought was “Wait, people really do this?” followed by a minor internal freak out as I wondered if I was supposed to do something in return. It was so awkward! It left me a bit stunned and I later had to ask my husband if I handled it okay.
I’ve retold that story to friends and family before and, yes, I’ve included a reenactment of how the girl abruptly stiffened and clicked her heels together before kneeling into the curtsy, and guess what? I meant absolutely no disrespect to that sweet child. The whole thing is, in my mind, just a funny story about that time I was caught off guard by a curtsy and curtsy protocols. Because really, how many Americans have ever been in the position to give or receive a curtsy and it not be a joke or a part of a child’s game?
I saw this scene as lighthearted and mildly amusing. That others (British media, angry internet commenters in general) see it as some deep disrespect thrown at the Queen leaves me wondering if some people are just looking for things to be offended by.
Oh, I have no doubt there are countless angry mobs because this is H&M we’re talking about here, but again, I took it as Meghan mocking herself and her own discomfort in that scene. I didn’t interpret it as anything negative towards the queen or British traditions at all.Hey, I’m just a dumb American, too so I’m not sure I completely understand it, either. And I have not seen the actual clip. My comments were an observation of comments. That said, from what I gather, they feel it was deeply disrespectful to the Queen, who dedicated her life to service to the country, and longstanding traditions of reverence.
Here is an example from today:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-former-chef-joins-wave-angry-royal-fans.html
1. Meghan's curtsy
Most tabloids, but also other news sources see it as a veiled attack on the monarchy's traditons. How she exaggerated her curtsy and comparing it to a US Medieval Times dinner, really didn't come across well.
The century old tradition of a bow or curtsy to the queen is a sign of respect. A sign of respect is not something to mock. By exagerrating and comparing it to a cheesy US dinner show, Meghan gives off an air "Oh my God, these traditions are sooooo stupid!" And not necessarily making fun of herself, "I was such a clutch."
She was going to be a British subject. She never finished her immigration process.She didn't have to curtsy at all, and still wouldn't. She isn't a subject of the monarchy, and never has been. It would take years for her to become a citizen, and now she can't do it at all because she doesn't live in the UK.
This was a topic in Michelle Obama's book, when she hugged the queen. She was supposed to shake the queen's hand, but wait for the queen to extend her hand or some crap. I'm sure this was on Meghan's radar. Honestly, I think that would have been a better approach, if she had known where her branding would end up as rebel against monarchy, which spoiler alert is old-fashioned and racist.