Aulani prices

[Brian Noble]

I thanked him for his time and kindly told him that it made me sad for people that might be insulted by a business transaction

I would have done this slightly differently.

"Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully I can help you get paid on some other contract down the road."

 

[VGCgroupie]

That's really low for a loaded sub right?! It confused me for a second!
I've been stalking the aggregators for weeks now, and I seriously considered offering asking price for about 5 minutes, then talked myself out of it. It would have put us a little above what I want to spend out of pocket right now, and being East Coast makes Aulani much harder for us as a family of 5 and I would end up just using it for SAP instead of buying where we want to stay.

Yeah that is a very decent price. I am very happy with all of my Aul sub purchases 3 total. We fell in love with Aulani but 50% of our Aulani points will be used for SAP.

Ok I must have just confused myself with the loaded points. There's so many stripped ones out there that when I see any current points I'm excited. I swear I'm going crosseyed from looking at so many contracts and getting rejected. I actually had a broker today tell me that, in his opinion, the sellers were probably insulted by my offer so chose not to counter. I thanked him for his time and kindly told him that it made me sad for people that might be insulted by a business transaction.

So crazy, who gets insulted by a low offer, this isn't real estate where you are selling something personal like a home. And even if they did get insulted the broker could've/should've kept that to himself.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Everyone loves a "great deal", but the reality is that it can be shown that the value of the subsidy is $50-$90 per point, depending on your assumptions (and there really are only 2 value drivers) - i.e., whatever the price of the identical unsubsidized contract is, you can pay $50-$90/pt more for the same contract with subsidized dues and you'll still be better off financially if you hold it to expiration. So $112 is obviously great, but the less discussed truth is that even $140 is not bad.

The flipside is that if the market does consistently undervalue these contracts, you don't want to "overpay" in case you have to sell that contract in such a market. So, by all means, look for the best deal out there! But the value of the subsidy, if held to expiration, is $50-$90/pt so, given the relative rarity of these subsidized contracts, don't fret too much!

We ran the numbers and I was shocked at how great of a deal it was. So I jumped in before ever even going to Aulani.

 

[jolynne28]

The contracts where I’ve “insulted” the sellers have been my best contracts.

It just takes patience. And I’ve always been polite and professional.

In fact, I have been surprised sometimes when the broker comes back and says “your offer has been accepted!” (because I didn’t really want the contract).

I even received a personal email from one broker (after his “offer accepted” email) saying that both him and I know that my offer was ridiculously low…but his seller was motivated and willing to accept my offer.

I feel like I kept it polite and professional, I think I phrased it as it made me sad to hear they felt that way, and I told him I hoped they got what they were looking for and that I would continue my search.

But I thought his "insulting" comment was not necessary or professional, especially considering he stated it was his opinion. My offer wasn't far off from recently accepted ones by any stretch when you factor in it was a stripped contract.

 

[rferrar1]

There is definitely a two-to-three hour lag for the DVCforLess alert emails. If you are really looking for good deals, you need to simply check the broker sites every so often--maybe every 15 or so minutes. Maybe use a auto refresh and keep it on in the background. That's what I do. When I finish a work task, I glance at the refreshed screen and then focus again on work. Today there was a loaded BWV contract that went up and was sold before it hit DVCforLess. A couple days ago there was a loaded Aulani contract with a very good price that came and went before DVCforLess. I didn't see the subsidized contract, but I'm also only looking at two brokers.

Also, I should add that, at the moment, most anything that is a truly good deal is going quickly and at full price, likely with multiple offers. (In ways, I miss 2021, when you could haggle anything because people were dumping contracts left and right, kinda post or late pandemic.)

Hi there!

There shouldn’t be a multi-hour delay on DVCForLess. Each search filter you create should give you the option to set email frequency to “Instant.” You’ll see this option when creating a new alert, but you can also update existing ones by heading to your profile and clicking the “Saved Alerts” tab.

Just to clarify—“Instant” means as soon as we crawl a new listing, which currently happens hourly. If your alert is already set to Instant but still seems delayed, let me know—there could be a bug we’d love to squash.

Some of the best deals really do get snapped up in minutes, so every second counts!

We could increase our crawl frequency, but we’ll only do that with the broker’s permission, just to be respectful of their site’s performance.

Thanks for using DVCForLess!
–Bob

 

[Budzooka]

Hi there!

There shouldn’t be a multi-hour delay on DVCForLess. Each search filter you create should give you the option to set email frequency to “Instant.” You’ll see this option when creating a new alert, but you can also update existing ones by heading to your profile and clicking the “Saved Alerts” tab.

Just to clarify—“Instant” means as soon as we crawl a new listing, which currently happens hourly. If your alert is already set to Instant but still seems delayed, let me know—there could be a bug we’d love to squash.

Some of the best deals really do get snapped up in minutes, so every second counts!

We could increase our crawl frequency, but we’ll only do that with the broker’s permission, just to be respectful of their site’s performance.

Thanks for using DVCForLess!
–Bob


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Thanks for jumping in and providing this info. Are subsidized dues contracts earmarked in these alerts? I have yet to see that designation on a listing.

 

[rferrar1]

Thanks for jumping in and providing this info. Are subsidized dues contracts earmarked in these alerts? I have yet to see that designation on a listing.

No problem! No, subsidized dues are not earmarked yet. We know its an important feature for Aulani searchers. Its on the roadmap for "soon".

 

[disneylandtour]

Hi there!

There shouldn’t be a multi-hour delay on DVCForLess. Each search filter you create should give you the option to set email frequency to “Instant.” You’ll see this option when creating a new alert, but you can also update existing ones by heading to your profile and clicking the “Saved Alerts” tab.

Just to clarify—“Instant” means as soon as we crawl a new listing, which currently happens hourly. If your alert is already set to Instant but still seems delayed, let me know—there could be a bug we’d love to squash.

Some of the best deals really do get snapped up in minutes, so every second counts!

We could increase our crawl frequency, but we’ll only do that with the broker’s permission, just to be respectful of their site’s performance.

Thanks for using DVCForLess!
–Bob


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I do have it on instant. But also I'm aware of a multi hour lag at times on some postings--I'd say a couple of hours. Something is not entirely matching up. I figure there's a crawl latency. But I'm pretty sure it's more than an hour at times. Many times the best deals will be gone before they hit the alerts.

 

[rferrar1]

Oh, one other thing, yesterday we released a feature which allows you to "report an error". If you see data about a listing misrepresented on dvcforless, click the link highlighted below and we'll get it fixed. Note: that link only shows up after you've click on the "View it on xyzbroker".

 

[rferrar1]

I do have it on instant. But also I'm aware of a multi hour lag at times on some postings--I'd say a couple of hours. Something is not entirely matching up. I figure there's a crawl latency. But I'm pretty sure it's more than an hour at times. Many times the best deals will be gone before they hit the alerts.

Thanks, I'll take a closer look.

 

[ShaneDJ]

I feel like I kept it polite and professional, I think I phrased it as it made me sad to hear they felt that way, and I told him I hoped they got what they were looking for and that I would continue my search.

But I thought his "insulting" comment was not necessary or professional, especially considering he stated it was his opinion. My offer wasn't far off from recently accepted ones by any stretch when you factor in it was a stripped contract.

You did it right. The broker’s comment was lame and unprofessional.

 

[hhisc16]

Hi there!

There shouldn’t be a multi-hour delay on DVCForLess. Each search filter you create should give you the option to set email frequency to “Instant.” You’ll see this option when creating a new alert, but you can also update existing ones by heading to your profile and clicking the “Saved Alerts” tab.

Just to clarify—“Instant” means as soon as we crawl a new listing, which currently happens hourly. If your alert is already set to Instant but still seems delayed, let me know—there could be a bug we’d love to squash.

Some of the best deals really do get snapped up in minutes, so every second counts!

We could increase our crawl frequency, but we’ll only do that with the broker’s permission, just to be respectful of their site’s performance.

Thanks for using DVCForLess!
–Bob


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Love the website! Thank you!

 

[Disney.dad]

The one I saw was elsewhere, but loaded, at $80pp. Non-sub. I didn't see it come through on the DVCforLess alerts. Occasionally the board sponsor has good deals--but only very occasionally--but I think it's mostly when some seller wants it sold fast.

It hit DVC for less. We ended up being the backup offer which was put in about 20 minutes after we saw it on DVC for less but we had checked and rechecked the site that morning. That was a great one. Hate we missed it. We weren’t going to go for it and said what the heck at that price.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Yeah the schedule is usually tough with these airports and airlines. But when you can make it work it's so sweet! I am flying to Palm Springs this weekend, much much closer to home but costs 5x times the cost of my budget airline trip to Orlando.

Wow! My rinky dink local airport is trying to get someone to offer nonstop Orlando flights. That would be the dream. But if it costs 5 times as much, I may have to settle for the long trek to a further city, the parking charges, and the inevitable layover.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Wow! My rinky dink local airport is trying to get someone to offer nonstop Orlando flights. That would be the dream. But if it costs 5 times as much, I may have to settle for the long trek to a further city, the parking charges, and the inevitable layover.

The Orlando non stop was cheap. My Plan Springs flight is out of the big international airport on Delta, thats the one thats 5x.

Our small airport Breeze and Allegiant both fly to the Santa Ana and Orlando/Sanford. Keep an eye out for those 2 airlines, they love small airports.

 

[PlutoNotPlanet]

No, subsidized dues are not earmarked yet. Its on the roadmap for "soon".

I can foresee that some of us might compete for certain subsidized contracts haha

 

[SugarSweetLee]

The Orlando non stop was cheap. My Plan Springs flight is out of the big international airport on Delta, thats the one thats 5x.

Our small airport Breeze and Allegiant both fly to the Santa Ana and Orlando/Sanford. Keep an eye out for those 2 airlines, they love small airports.

Love Allegiant! For all the negatives I appreciate what they do.

 

[Disdreaming479]

We’re also near a regional airport and fly Allegient direct to Sanford. Less than 2.5 hours and we avoid dfw, which is real nice. Prices are usually low, but they sure are creeping up over time.

 

[VGCgroupie]

We’re also near a regional airport and fly Allegient direct to Sanford. Less than 2.5 hours and we avoid dfw, which is real nice. Prices are usually low, but they sure are creeping up over time.

In case you didn't know a super cool tip. Once a week you can book your flights in person at the airport w/ Allegiant and save $22 each way and stack their coupons with it too!

 

[VGCgroupie]

I can foresee that some of us might compete for certain subsidized contracts haha

There's one out there right now ( and this happens alot ) that dvcforless wouldnt even be able to notate as a subsidized if it is, because the broker has the MF listed completely wrong and has no description so there's no way to know if its sub or not. I find that when hunting for a sub contract you have to check each Aulani listing independently to try and find it and sometimes you have to even reach out to the broker and ask. Even then they dont always know.