Maleffiecent41
Earning My Ears
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- Jun 15, 2016
12 inches in a 1 foot of water and a foot of water is at least belly button deep on Most toddlers and thats swimming folks
And it is a relatively safe place for a child. The beach isn't the problem.Its not about changing the behavior of the Alligator. That is very difficult. It is about changing the behavior of the Human. A sandy beach is just an invitation for a child to come play.
If people didn't make objectively assinine statements that the lagoon should be fenced off, or that the beaches should be removed, or that beach activities should end, all in response to ONE terrible tragedy in 40 YEARS of operation, then we wouldn't have to bring up our "crazy" arguments.Apparently there are people here who just want to argue. The case at point is being lost. A child died, at disney, on a beach, by an alligator, at night, during a recreational event. Discussion of signage or lack of, mating season, rules and regs, breaking news, all that awesome. The stupid arguements of everything is dangerous, theres always a risk, one has to ruin it for everyone, get rid of all the hot water so no one gets burned (really?) Is ridiculous. Too much time has been spent on these crazy arguments. I have kids to go hug. Goodnight all. And thoughts and prayers to the family and anyone this has affected in some way.
It's unclear if the child was actually a foot in the water. Some reports say 3 inches some say a foot.12 inches in a 1 foot of water and a foot of water is at least belly button deep on Most toddlers and thats swimming folks
Alligator related deaths are rare though. While I'm not saying they should have signs or not but there almost is the same amount of risk standing outside during a thunderstorm and getting struck by lightning than getting attack by an alligator. You are more likely to die from a bee sting.
obviously you can't prevent someone who ignores a warning and proceeds at their own risk. I understand the golf courses have posted signs.But what about the people that are not aware and decide to wade in the water? Or during the day go golfing?
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Now that's a sign that says it all. kudos and hope to see these next visit at all resort properties.I would not expect that at all. At Disney I would take "No swimming" to mean just that and not include getting ones feet wet up to the ankles. If they want to be clear, they need a sign more along the lines of this:
Someone on another thread posted about how alligators handle prey that is too large to swallow whole. Apparently their teeth are designed for crushing, not for tearing so they stash large prey underwater, wedged underneath something and wait for it to rot. That would explain why the body was still intact when it was found. Here is a website from the University of Florida that discusses this in more detail: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw230I honestly feel like this is a case of mistaken identity on the Gator's part seeing as the body was intact. This is the time of year when Gators are sitting on nests etc. It could be as simple as the Gator perceived a threat to her nest and she did what any mother would do because if it wanted a meal it would have done so.
Because everyone has experienced thunder and rain, Not everybody is aware of Aliigators in the 7 Seas Lagoon. I certainly wasnt when I was a child riding around on those water sprites by myself. I was not when I paid $300 to Sammy Duvall for my family to SWIM and wakeboard in Bay Lake. Only after those activities was I made aware.But what about the people that are not aware and decide to wade in the water? Or during the day go golfing?
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I know there have been 26 alligator related deaths in the past 50 years but I don't know the attacks number. At Disney there is only one other attack in the 45 year history of he resort.deaths by gator may be rare, but how many gator attacks has FL had? Disney
So if the risk is the same as a thunderstorm than I'd expect nothing short of the safety measures Disney implements during thunderstorms. Close the pool. cancel movie night. at the very least, relocate movie night to a safer spot.
This is totally normal in the "plain" states...Nebraska, South Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota. I live in South east South Dakota and we have dont have the predators here like that. I would feel totally comfortable walking with my child on the shore line of a lake at night.2 year olds with no light/visibility huh?
That's "normal", ehh?
And it is a relatively safe place for a child. The beach isn't the problem.
Gator population has increased exponentially since then.
I wondered about this. Do you know why the alligator population has increased so much?
Everything is pissing me off this week:
Do I feel bad for the family? Absolutely. Everyone makes mistakes, but this is definitely not Disney's fault and I'm already reading comments about how Disney should've had signs. They don't have signs for something as common sense as "Mickey Mouse is at Disney World" you should at least have the common knowledge that Florida has a lot of alligators
- The media overexposing Orlando which is only going to give the general public the impression Orlando is a dangerous place (when it's as dangerous as any other city)
- People falling for the satirical "Brock Turner Family Support" page with people thinking it is legitimate and cursing their hearts out while the description even shows it's not real (saying they and not our)
- People thinking the parents are completely innocent for letting their 2-YEAR OLD AT NIGHT go through A NATURAL LAKE IN FLORIDA.
I think this thread needs to be shut down. This is very terrible for the family. Everyone should just offer their sympathies and prayers and that's it. I can't believe how callous some people can be, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. A small child lost his life and the parents will never be the same. My heart aches for them.