Pacolovestacos
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- Apr 15, 2016
That the CM made their own call. And it's my opinion that that makes that particular CM look like quite a backwards person, as they decided to not allow the boys. (This is assuming that it IS Disney's policy to allow boys and girls.) They will likely be fired as this is a bad look.
Oh of course, I'm sure it wasn't meant to be malicious. However, I still think it reads as a reflection of some antiquated values. Obviously we can't say exactly what they were thinking or if they were aware of the policy or not.Maybe there was nothing sinister in the CM's response. Maybe (s)he assumed that an event called "Princess for a day," is for females only as in the dictionary, princess is still a female term. Until only a few months ago, the Boy Scouts were all male. Girl Scouts were that way too for a long time, allowing only girls. Maybe this CM just innocently thought only girls could sign up and didn't bother to ask anyone if boys could do it too.
Maybe there was nothing sinister in the CM's response. Maybe (s)he assumed that an event called "Princess for a day," is for females only as in the dictionary, princess is still a female term. Until only a few months ago, the Boy Scouts were all male. Girl Scouts were that way too for a long time, allowing only girls. Maybe this CM just innocently thought only girls could sign up and didn't bother to ask anyone if boys could do it too.
You are right, it may show nothing more than a lack of training. And I hope that training need will now be addressed
This is what I think happened too. By reading the article it seems like the exchange happened through email and it doesn’t read like she pursued it any further than that. IMO, if you want to get all up in arms over something and “seek justice” you need to first ask WHY. I’m just not seeing where she did that.Maybe there was nothing sinister in the CM's response. Maybe (s)he assumed that an event called "Princess for a day," is for females only as in the dictionary, princess is still a female term. Until only a few months ago, the Boy Scouts were all male. Girl Scouts were that way too for a long time, allowing only girls. Maybe this CM just innocently thought only girls could sign up and didn't bother to ask anyone if boys could do it too.
Don't we all want our son's to aspire to be Woman Of the Year...just like Bruce Jenner!....I get why in today's world this is a story, but not to long ago what the CM did would be considered common sense, wonder what is common sense today that in 20 years will be totally unacceptable. Not trying to make a point for either side, just a thought
This is what I think happened too. By reading the article it seems like the exchange happened through email and it doesn’t read like she pursued it any further than that. IMO, if you want to get all up in arms over something and “seek justice” you need to first ask WHY. I’m just not seeing where she did that.
Don't we all want our son's to aspire to be Woman Of the Year...just like Bruce Jenner!....
Pieces of fabric are not inherently gendered.
Society at large disagrees with you. If I met my friends at a sports bar wearing a skirt, I would be ripped to shreds.
Maybe there was nothing sinister in the CM's response. Maybe (s)he assumed that an event called "Princess for a day," is for females only as in the dictionary, princess is still a female term. Until only a few months ago, the Boy Scouts were all male. Girl Scouts were that way too for a long time, allowing only girls. Maybe this CM just innocently thought only girls could sign up and didn't bother to ask anyone if boys could do it too.
I get why in today's world this is a story, but not to long ago what the CM did would be considered common sense, wonder what is common sense today that in 20 years will be totally unacceptable. Not trying to make a point for either side, just a thought
Don't we all want our son's to aspire to be Woman Of the Year...just like Bruce Jenner!....
Society at large disagrees with you. If I met my friends at a sports bar wearing a skirt, I would be ripped to shreds.
I am a Disneyland Paris regular so quite familiar with princess for a day. A lot of what is offered simply cannot be done on a boy- the big part of the experience is having your hair styled to look like a given princess, which obviously boys with short hair cannot do. Perhaps the CM misunderstood (it happens- there’s a language barrier)- I agree boys should have access but they would miss out on a huge part of the experience. Boys are still completely welcome to dress up as princesses at DLP- it happens a lot. I don’t think what was said was ill-intentioned.
I completely agree, but France is very different to the USA and are generally less open to things like this. I’ve had problems before with CMs in DLP (and in wider France) being very inflexible. The CM probably thought that no, the boy couldn’t have the majority of the experience, so it wasn’t appropriate. I don’t think it’s anything sinister.And what about girls with short hair? Or kids undergoing chemo who have lost their hair, or have alopecia? Use some imagination, some glitter and stuff, and include people without long hair, for goodness sake.
Or maybe the CM thought the child couldn't have the majority of the experience and his parent would then demand a refund.I completely agree, but France is very different to the USA and are generally less open to things like this. I’ve had problems before with CMs in DLP (and in wider France) being very inflexible. The CM probably thought that no, the boy couldn’t have the majority of the experience, so it wasn’t appropriate. I don’t think it’s anything sinister.
Society at large disagrees with you. If I met my friends at a sports bar wearing a skirt, I would be ripped to shreds.
Yup, the CM just flipped open the dictionary that the CM is carrying at all times, and made the call... Nope, it was a gender-biased decision that had no place at DLP.
son's what? Or did you mean sons?