Not sure if it was just me, but yesterday's show came off as super negative. Again, very little WDW talk, and felt like alot of of time/talk about
DCL again it seemed. I also really didn't like everyone getting snippy/defensive and then complaining about the comments they received about last week's show. Reality is, when you have children, and fly in from other locations, the DCL vs WDW trip decision is quite different. I think that is what many folks were pointing out, it is not an apples to apples comparison. I am sorry, but everyone seemed unhappy and miserable to be on the show except for Deni maybe( John also had a few positive comments to make).
I agree. I get that they made the choices that led them to where they are today and they should be proud, but it doesn’t mean that they aren’t out of touch with an average Disney goer. It’s usually not so bad because we typically get a mix of voices but it was really stark this week.
A cruise canceling its sailing is actually a really big deal and the Disney was generous but it doesn’t make things better for a lot of people. Some people have to move vacation days and there are people who have jobs that won’t let them move their days around. We were going to go while my kids had February break. Now what do we do? Taking them out of school isn’t just an easy choice for everyone.
it’s their show so at the end of the day it’s only thief opinion that matters, but they so often refuse to believe anything effects people differently than them.
lots of eye rolls from me this week.
Yeah, I agree they probably should have been a little more contrite (and a little less defiant) and admitted that on the show a couple of weeks ago maybe they did not take into consideration the possibility of flying in from where ever with the whole family in tow -many including young children - and then getting turned away at the port because of a positive test by one asymptomatic family member. And what a nightmare scenario that becomes trying to tell your kids - after arriving at the port and seeing the ship - that they cannot go on the cruise. Then there is the logistics of what they do until their flight back home. So I can totally understand people not wanting to put themselves in a position where that scenario can happen to them. That scenario is not in play for the team, so I can understand them overlooking it...initially. I don't consider them to be "entitled" either. I'll never vilfy or begrudge anyone's success when they've worked hard for it. So I don't think that had anything to do with it. consider. It was just an aspect they didn't consider.
Additionally, if Covid wasn't a thing and that scenario wasn't in play, then the basis of their argument of DCL (or other cruise line) vs WDW holds a lot more water than it does as long as that scenario is still possible. Pete is 100% correct that the price difference, which was once very significant, has narrowed tremendously. .
DITTO - nobody called them entitled. Nor criticized Kevin‘s Louis Vuitton nor their travels nor lack of kids. Diverse perspectives are fun/great to hear - especially when we can glimpse the special and frequent travel the three of them get to experience. And it’s nice when the convo and topics acknowledge and allow for other experiences, situations and opinions.
Perhaps I missed some posts but I did not see anybody begrudge them for their accomplishments or hard-earned success. And if it did happen in a couple posts I missed out of the whole thread perhaps they give them too much power to get sooo worked up rather than tune in more thoughtfully to the majority of the points actually made.
It was really people commenting about the question posed to the audience. If you do not want a response then do not ask a question.
People pointed out what came across as the lack of recognition of anyone else’s situation in that episode by the incredulous question about why people wouldn’t be choosing the cruise and the trend of the 3 owners to focus more on people like them. Despite what many other long time clients like me or others who posted their “why I’m not cruising” reasons experience or feel.
After the show in question two weeks ago I posted to that thread too and commented that the 3 of them have been less apt to look at things from the point of view of their listeners/clients and/or come across as out of touch.
John, to his credit replied to me in the thread in a civil way, unlike the behavior shown by them on Tuesdays show. I thanked him for responding. He made his points which I respectfully disagreed with in a repost. Pointing out that Dis execs could benefit as Deni suggested from having to experience the current guest experience themselves and on another topic how I felt surprised that the large number of things wrong with Genie plus were not on John and Pete’s radar and they were clearly missing and or somehow not listening to the vast majority of people unhappy with it, even those posting on their own boards. Not to mention they were not listening to Deni nor Elaine who have shared challenges.
The response on the Tuesday show was sad, unfortunate and overblown. Perhaps it was a bad social media day?!? Or it demonstrates a lack of self reflection or acknowledgment of what was ACTUALLY being communicated by the majority of posters and them completely missing the point. People were answering their question.
And the answer to every disagreement with them or call out of something doesn’t have to be don’t listen, don’t go, etc…. I have never previously posted about a show reaction. It’s tone deaf for some of their clients and listeners - To use a phrase they often use about Disney.
