I just state what I know from my own experience with a seller, whether they are good or bad. That's all I know, I don't make generalized assumptions based on their websites or what they have listed. I probably wouldn't have used them ever except they came highly recommended on other pin boards, boards where that's all we discuss. IME mousepinsonline has perfectly legit pins at a great price. I understand what you are saying, but you don't know because you haven't used them, I DO know because I have used them. Of course you are entitled to your own thoughts but since I've actually purchased from them I know what my experience was with them and I don't hesitate to say I had no issues. I know you don't it mean it negatively but when you disagree with me saying they are fine after I've had personal experience with them by saying everything they have is fake it makes me feel like you're calling ME out. Again I know it's not meant that way but it seems like you tend to disagree with a lot of my thoughts on who's selling good stuff out there and I am not uneducated on pin trading or buying. Granted it's been a while since I've purchased pins for trading but I still know what I'm talking about. ProPins are licensed Disney pins. So are Bertoni & Sedesma (as much as I hate Sedesma's cheapo pins..and yes I have some). They are Disney pins but not as nice as the ones Disney has in the parks, they look a little different and have a smooth surface not a slightly bumpy one like "normal" Disney pins. Go to pinpics.com, use the search function, type in propins, you will see what I'm talking about. Or just go to mousepinsonline.com, you can see them there as well.