Spelling Bee's how does your child's school handle these???

Maleficent2

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DS elementary school just had their spelling Bee...which only selected students in grades 2-5 were allowed to participate in.
DS was very upset that he was not asked he really wanted to be in the spelling bee(he has a A in spelling with a 98 ave.)

I do not think this was handled very well. When I was in school ions ago all students got a shot. This is not the case at DS school. How does your child's school handle the Spelling Bee?


thanks

Mal
 
Well I'm not a parent, but I'll tell you what happened at my elementary/middle school. The school was readieness through 8th grade. So kids in grades 5-8 were allowed to participate. They chose kids based on a classroom spelling bee. 2 kids from each English class (there were usually 3 english classes per grade). The kids chosen for the school spelling bee were the winner and the runner up in the classroom bee.
 
that sounds more fair DS school did not have a classroom spelling bee not sure how the 4 from his class were picked. But I know my child was not the only child with hurt feelings over this.



Mal
 
It seems like schools are trying to get away from competitive activities for the younger grades to avoid hurt feelings. Don't worry though, as they get into higher grades, there will be plenty of competition. Like when your teen is applying for college and a high grade point average is not enough and they must also score high on SAT and/or ACT, exhibit leadership abilities, have community service, etc....
I would just relax about it and when he gets to 2nd grade he can be in the spelling bee. I don't think it is really a big deal. Just be glad that he can spell. :D
 
monarchsfan16 said:
Well I'm not a parent, but I'll tell you what happened at my elementary/middle school. The school was readieness through 8th grade. So kids in grades 5-8 were allowed to participate. They chose kids based on a classroom spelling bee. 2 kids from each English class (there were usually 3 english classes per grade). The kids chosen for the school spelling bee were the winner and the runner up in the classroom bee.
Thats how our schools handle it too. All of my kids have made it to the school spelling bee, but none have made it to the city.
 
Our school has a bee in every classroom then the winner proceeds and #2 person is alternate. DD has done the spelling bee every year since 1st grade and loves the competition. She just participated in the geography bee and has also done the math bee. It is ashame this happened to your son! I'd probably ask about it at the next metting and let them know my feelings (& his) about how they pick who gets to participate. I never liked doing stuff like that but Hunter seems to love it.
 
my child is in second grade with an A(98 ave.)in spelling....

I don't think they are trying to get away from competitive things...or if they are this only made it worse by the way it was handled. I am POed about it because his feelings were really hurt as were others in his class with A's in spelling also who were not allowed to participate.


I intend on talking with the principle and letting her know how upset DS was and how he will not attend school on SB day next year if it is handled as poorly as this year.

Oh I forgot to mention that all classes had to come and watch the ones in the SB which only added insult to injury.
 
My kids school is the two students with the highest average grades in spelling are the ones to compete and the third one is the alternate. My oldest has competed every single year since second grade but never won . This year in sixth grade there's no spelling bee but let's see what is going to happen with my youngest in second grade.
 
I run the spelling bee at the elementary school I work at. Technically only 4-8th graders can participate in the local spelling bee but I allow 3-5 graders at my school to participate just so the 3rd graders will have a chance to see what it is like. I make it clear to them (and their parents) that if they win our school bee they can't go on to the local bee.

I ask my 3-5 grade teacher for a list of about 10 kids per class of their best spellers-kids who are getting close to 100% on most test. Some give me more than 10, some do a mini-bee in their class. I end up with about 50-60 kids. I then give them a 30 word written test-words taken for the spelling bee padeia (which is from Scripps Howard who sponsors the National spelling bee). I tell the kids that the words are words I can pronounce and can put in a sentence :) so they are a bit difficult but not impossible.

From the written test I get about 10-15 of the top scores and those kids go on to an oral spelling bee just in front of the other finalist and their parents (I think it is stressful enough to have an oral bee that they don't need to be in front of the whole school.) The winner of that bee is our school's rep to the local bee sponsored by our local paper.

(Now don't critique me for all of my spelling errors. I never claimed to be a good speller:) )
 
Maleficent2 said:
Oh I forgot to mention that all classes had to come and watch the ones in the SB which only added insult to injury.


How is that insulting? There are probably a lot of children with good spelling grades that watched.



Have you spoken to his teacher? Maybe the children that were chosen to participate had a 100 average.
 
Instead of going directly to the school principal, you need to talk with your son's classroom teacher and ask her how the students were selected to participate.

It could be that only a certain number from each class were allowed. Maybe your school has guidelines/rules on how they pick those who participate. You may find out that there are many 2nd graders who have a very high average in spelling--maybe higher than your son's and the others who were disappointed. The teacher may not have had any say in who should participate--she had to follow the rules.

I'm sure your son and the others were disappointed. It is too bad that a letter was not sent home explaining how students were chosen to participate. That might be a suggestion to give to the teacher for the school to use next year. That would eliminate any misconceptions and parents could talk with their students and help them handle their disappointment.

Do the best spellers always get into the spelling bee, even when a classroom contest is held? No. Kids get nervous, excited, hurry, are sick, etc.

Please do not go directly to the principal. Start with the classroom teacher and approach him/her in a calm manner. "I wonder if you could explain to me the guidelines for selecting spelling bee participants." Do not attack--as I stated earlier, she may not be in control. I would also do this away from the students.

Help your son deal with his disappointment. This will pass and life will go on. Next week it probably won't be a big deal anymore. If you keep on being upset, he will be too. You need to help him deal with disappointments constructively and learn life goes on, rather than "mom" will fix it or help him have a pity party. Yes, I know he is only in 2nd grade and this may sound harsh to some for me to say this, but in my years of teaching and working with kids I have seen the results of parents rushing in to "fix" or "protect " their kids from disappointment.

His feelings are going to be hurt many, many more times as he goes through school. As I said, work with him on handling disappointments. Let him talk about it and help him to move on.

Keeping him out of school rather than going to the spelling bee would be pointless. What will that teach him other than being a bad loser? Or that if things don't go your way, run and hide? Or avoid the situations? If he had been the one selected, would you like the other parents to keep their children home and not watch your son????? I don't think so!

How did you handle the situation when he first told you? Did you listen and respond empathetically, then help him move on? Or did you get mad and help him feel sorry for himself? Stop and think about this. Are you more upset about this than he is?
 
When I was elementary school every homeroom had a spelling bee and the winner and runner-up went on to the school-wide bee. The winner from that then went on to the next round. I came in second in the school-wide bee and won in my homeroom in the 4th grade :)
 
but she left the week befor Winter break for 3 month maternity leave and his new teacher does not have a clue and has been absent more than she has been there since they returned from winter break.

Why shouldn't I go to the principal? Our school is very small (250 children) and I have a good relationship with her. I actually was going to email her.

Keeping him out of school rather than going to the spelling bee would be pointless. What will that teach him other than being a bad loser? Or that if things don't go your way, run and hide? Or avoid the situations? If he had been the one selected, would you like the other parents to keep their children home and not watch your son????? I don't think so!

I did not ask for judgments or criques here, you do not know me or how I handled the situation. All I did ask was how spelling bees were handled at your school, so I could have some idea as to suggestions that I might offer if asked.
I think this SB was handled poorly all the way around from no letters being sent out to inform parents up to no classroom SB being held. Many good spellers in his class and other classes were disappointed that they did not get a chance to at least try out for the spelling bee. I really do not like all your insinuations of pity parties and the like.

insult-To treat with gross insensitivity, insolence, or contemptuous rudeness. See Synonyms at offend.
To affront or demean: an absurd speech that insulted the intelligence of the audience

thank you to the ones who responded as to how SB's are handled at your schools, hopefully our school SB will be handled in a more sensitive matter next year.

Mal
 
Your response to the posts gives me a pretty good indication of how you reacted. If you post on an internet bulletin board, be prepared to hear peoples' opinions, even if you didn't ask for them. It's the nature of the beast.

Meanwhile, I would imagine that there are more important things to get worked up over than a grammar school spelling bee. It's good for children to learn how to handle disappointment. Life will be full of disappointing, unfair occurrences. Now that I am an adult, I am quite happy that my parents let me take some lumps and learn to deal with life. It makes it a lot easier now to let go what needs to be let go.
 
At our local elementary, the two students from each class with the highest spelling average participate in the school bee. Usually there are a few kids with 99 and 100 averages. If, for instance, there are three kids with a 100 average, they do a small "spell off" to determine who represents the class in the school bee. If there is one kid with a 100 average and two with a 99 average, the two with the 99 do the "spell off" to see which one of them is in the school bee. I'm sure your child is really bright and a great speller, but there were probably kids with 99 and 100 averages in the class. Honestly, like others have said, it's probably the first of many diappointments to come and I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. Just say, "I'm sorry you're disappointed" and let it go at that. The same thing happens in junior high and high school with scholastic meets, academic bowl competitions, etc. There are always going to be smart kids that don't get to participate for one reason or another. He'll have lots of other chances, I'm sure. This just doesn't seem to be anything worth making a big fuss over.
 
Which is basically what I said. But he wanted to know why he did not get the chance to try out. For which I did not have an answer and is what prompted my question here. I was hoping for some insight to SB's.

I did not know he was upset befor the SB only after(which was Friday afternoon)he came home from school.



Mal
 
DD's 3rd grade class doesn't have a spelling bee, but my best friend's does. The children are picked from the class. As far as I know, there was no classroom spelling bee to start with. You said that your child's average grade in spelling was 98. That is a great grade, but if there were higher grades (especially on a consistant basis) in the class, maybe there was no need for a preliminary bee. (By the way, DD has a 105 average in her class, so compared to her, a 98 wouldn't be close enough to be considered a finalist)
 
Our school, it is a written test that every 4-8th grader takes. The 4th grader has the same words as the 8th graders. The top two scorers from each grade get to go the school spelling bee. My son (4th grade) was the top speller in his class!

The spelling bee is tomorrow! He actually was mortified that he got chosed to go, because in his mind ...it is NOT cool. We tried to explain that athletics and grades are equally important and he can be the in the top atheltes in his class and the top spellers! He is straight A student!

Wish him luck tomorrow!
 












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