Snow White

LOL I haven't seen Gal Gadot in any other movies that I'm aware of, but I liked her performance in Snow White! She's not your stereotypical cackling villain, but I can see the psychology behind her interpretation of the Evil Queen. Basically she's a woman who gets whatever she wants, so most of the time she feels great! Unless someone is threatening her absolute power, of course. We, the audience, can see the horror of her lost humanity, but she doesn't seem to feel it. The tragedy of this character is that she never wanted anything more meaningful than jewelry and obedience. I think that's a compelling interpretation.
The only movie she's passable in is the first Wonder Woman but she sucks in everything else I've seen her in. This forum is the only place I've seen her performance get praise. Every review I've watched said that she was awful but Zelger was great (so exactly what I predicted).
 
Okay, so I did see it and just got back. It was fine - good even. They changed enough that it was at least worth a watch, which is good. I have no major issues with the story. The visuals were quite nice I think, and the highlight of the movie. My only minor issue is one that I also experienced with the theatrical production of Mary Poppins. New songs are new and they sound new - they have a different style and they clash with the classics. In Snow White, they use Heigh-Ho and Whistle While you Work, which are pretty 1930's-ish, with the rest being slick, modern Broadway style songs. It's nothing to ruin the movie or anything. (In Mary Poppins they added songs that were so very clearly NOT by the Sherman Bros. and it shows! I mean, that's an insanely high bar - why even try?). I enjoyed the thing overall though.
 
The only movie she's passable in is the first Wonder Woman but she sucks in everything else I've seen her in. This forum is the only place I've seen her performance get praise. Every review I've watched said that she was awful but Zelger was great (so exactly what I predicted).

I thought her acting was fine, but her singing...yeah.... Then again, she certainly LOOKED good in the role, which is what that role is all about - beauty that is only superficial, with nothing to back it up. Maybe it works in that context? The Magic Mirror is all like, "Snow White is even lovlier than thouh - and her singing is better too!" 🤣
 
Okay, so I did see it and just got back. It was fine - good even. They changed enough that it was at least worth a watch, which is good. I have no major issues with the story. The visuals were quite nice I think, and the highlight of the movie. My only minor issue is one that I also experienced with the theatrical production of Mary Poppins. New songs are new and they sound new - they have a different style and they clash with the classics. In Snow White, they use Heigh-Ho and Whistle While you Work, which are pretty 1930's-ish, with the rest being slick, modern Broadway style songs. It's nothing to ruin the movie or anything. (In Mary Poppins they added songs that were so very clearly NOT by the Sherman Bros. and it shows! I mean, that's an insanely high bar - why even try?). I enjoyed the thing overall though.

Yeah, I get that about the music. I think the dwarves in general feel like they're still in a fairy tale, while the rest of the movie has moved into psychological realism. I guess it was a balancing act between old and new. They could have kept going and had something as different from the original as Frozen was from The Snow Queen, but I don't think what we got was bad. Honestly I think the plot was great and the whole thing was emotionally engaging. My main quibbles are with the uncanny CG, and I wanted more subtlety from some of the actors and songs.
 
We went and saw the movie last night. I think it was a good up-dated interpretation of the story and they used technology well to bring it to real life.

My first comment to the Fiancé as we were leaving the theatre, was that I think I would have thought it was better if I hadn’t seen Wicked first. The music, song performance and choreography in Wicked was a step above what was in Snow White. Not that Snow White wasn’t great, but when compared with Wicked they are on 2 separate levels.

But with that said, I definitely suggest any Disney or Snow White fan watch it.
 
I meant to go see it this weekend and didn't get a chance. I have not been a fan of any of these live action remakes. I have really wanted to like some of them, but it just hasn't happened.

I am pleasantly surprised that there seem to be quite a few people who find it decent and enjoyable. I was definitely NOT expecting a Wicked-level wow factor, but will be happy for a good two hours of entertainment with some popcorn.

I am actually looking forward to Stitch, but if Disney never makes another live action remake again, I would be very ok with that.
 
I think that every review agrees on one thing: Rachel Zegler has an amazing voice. Think she will do great as Evita next season in London.

Also watched Mickey Jo's review (UK theatre critic), he always has good points, very thorough.

 
Much of my life I saw films that were primarily about male protagonists or about a group of males and I began to feel it was boring. So, I started to prefer films about female protagonists or mostly females and in particularly original Disney Princess films. I’ve seen all of them sometimes more than once. The director for this film is a man, while the screenplay is by a woman, Erin Cressida Wilson. Also, listed as writers are the Brothers Grimm which is somewhat misleading saying that the brothers wrote these stories since, while they edited them, they only collected stories from others. And in most cases these sources of stories were women – Jeannette and Marie Hassenpflug, Jenny von Droste-Hülstoff, Dorothea Viehmann and many stories told by Henriette Dorothea Wild. Also “‘Aschenputtel’ [Cinderella] was told by a poor old woman in a workhouse in the small medieval town of Marburg” and it was the sisters of a friend who told ‘The Bremen Town Musicians’ see here: https://vasilisathewise.com/2020/04/29/the-secret-history-of-the-grimm-fairy-tales/. This is part of the erasure of women from history.

Rachel Zegler has mixed ancestry, with her mother being of Colombian descent and her father of Polish descent. According to the US department of the census Hispanic or Latina is an ethnicity and not a race so a Latina could be “White” or “Black.” Rachel Zegler appears to have a “white complexion” as that term is usually used. Very few people have a true white complexion. I feel the notion behind the Snow-White fairy tale that someone with skin as white as snow would be the fairest (most beautiful) of them all is a bit racist, although in the not so distant past many people felt that to be the case.

The fairytale “Snow-White” contains overlaps with other fairytales. A princess in a deathlike sleep as in Sleeping Beauty, an orphan girl mistreated by a stepmother as in Cinderella and lost children finding a cabin in the woods as in Hansel and Gretel. Even among the Grimm Brothers versions (between 1812 and 1857) there are some differences, with the 1812 version having the evil queen being Snow Whites biological mother and as Snow White is awaken either by the princes servants dropping her in her glass coffin dislodging the bit of apple or a servant angry at having to carry the coffin with the girl inside slaps her again dislodging the bit of apple. The story itself existed prior to 1812 as shown by it being the bases of a play manuscript published in 1809, by Albert Ludwig Grimm (not related to the Brothers Grimm) and a literary tale all about the Evil Queen, where she was born and how she got the mirror. This is the story of Richilde. An outline of the story can be found in the following YouTube video:
. Kindly watch the other videos on that channel.

An early story containing some elements used in “Snow White” is entitled “The Young Slave,” (1634) by Giambattista Basile. There is in this story seven-year-old girl who appears to have died when a comb gets stuck in her hair and much later becomes alive when the comb is removed (also in the Grimm’s story). The girl is enslaved by a “step aunt” until the girl’s uncle, the step aunt’s husband realizes who she is. She is then freed and eventually can marry a handsome husband.

Tom,
 
Saw the movie today and my daughter and I enjoyed it. We take it for what it is and personally don't align with all the hate/ negativity. It's a feel good movie, with solid original songs (few and far between these days) and the casting doesn't deserve half the inspection that it has had - none negatively effected the performance (most actually made them better). We liked the twist on characters like Dopey and the try to expand on the contextual story line of how/ why she was named what she was.

Of course, there were story continuity gaps (can anyone say a shoulder injury to then clapping in the next scene - I won't expand for those who haven't seen it). The end left me a bit wanting, but it's fine.

Again we walked away pleased, and liking this real world remake as much, if not more, than others. This, along with the new Mufasa, surprised me and I'm happy to have contributed to the bottom line of the production.
 
Saw the movie today and my daughter and I enjoyed it. We take it for what it is and personally don't align with all the hate/ negativity. It's a feel good movie, with solid original songs (few and far between these days) and the casting doesn't deserve half the inspection that it has had - none negatively effected the performance (most actually made them better). We liked the twist on characters like Dopey and the try to expand on the contextual story line of how/ why she was named what she was.

Of course, there were story continuity gaps (can anyone say a shoulder injury to then clapping in the next scene - I won't expand for those who haven't seen it). The end left me a bit wanting, but it's fine.

Again we walked away pleased, and liking this real world remake as much, if not more, than others. This, along with the new Mufasa, surprised me and I'm happy to have contributed to the bottom line of the production.

I had sort of assumed....

That the treatment for the wound was magical in nature. Doc did know how to manipulate the magic rocks in the mine after all. That's just a possible explanation.
 
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Snow White was the first movie I ever saw. When I was about 5 (mid 1960's, when movies were kept in the vault & released every 7 years), my mom scraped together enough money to take me (on the bus) to see the movie. We were dirt poor, and I remember being SO excited to go somewhere, PLUS I remember, quite vividly, the colors in the diamond mine and the scene where the Queen is creating the poison apple. It was one of the most memorable days of my life. For no other reason but pure sentiment, I won't see the new version. There's just no way it can ever compete with the original.
 
Snow White was the first movie I ever saw. When I was about 5 (mid 1960's, when movies were kept in the vault & released every 7 years), my mom scraped together enough money to take me (on the bus) to see the movie. We were dirt poor, and I remember being SO excited to go somewhere, PLUS I remember, quite vividly, the colors in the diamond mine and the scene where the Queen is creating the poison apple. It was one of the most memorable days of my life. For no other reason but pure sentiment, I won't see the new version. There's just no way it can ever compete with the original.

This is why I prefer the ones where they really change it up instead of trying to be the same. They'll never hold up to the originals! I would never choose to watch live-action Beauty and the Beast if the animated one is also available. If they do something like Maleficent or Cruella, even Dumbo, I can roll with that bcause it's not really comparable at all. In this case, they did change a decent amount, but story beats are about the same. I honestly wish they had gone further with it, but of course people were complaining at even the hint of them doing something different from the original! The fact is, the samey-same ones make the most money, so it is what it is.
 
I had to laugh tonight as I sat down to take in some news sites. I came across a Snow White article on Outkick and they noted that it's IMDB rating is stellar bomb at 1.6, but wait there's more, get this... it has a worse rating than the epically bad Battlefield Earth, which stands at 2.5. Sorry to say that just made me laugh hard, getting beat out by Battlefield Earth should win it some award!
 
We saw it on the Treasure last week.
We really liked it.....yes, real people would have been nice, but Dopey was beyond adorable!!
And the animals were sooooo cute.
 
All the negative pre release has done this movie in. The movie may end being the biggest financial bomb in the history of movie making. It is not Rachel Zegler's acting/singing that are the issue, but her comments prior to release. Amazing how dense actors can be, not realizing that they need to be good at public relations as much as actors. Who knows, maybe 10 years from now this may become one of the hidden gems in Disney history.
 
All the negative pre release has done this movie in. The movie may end being the biggest financial bomb in the history of movie making. It is not Rachel Zegler's acting/singing that are the issue, but her comments prior to release. Amazing how dense actors can be, not realizing that they need to be good at public relations as much as actors. Who knows, maybe 10 years from now this may become one of the hidden gems in Disney history.

Ahhh, we all said stupid stuff in our 20's. The difference is that most of us weren't starring in Snow White and thus didn't have the attention of the whole world. I feel sorry for her.

For all its faults, I think in 2025, this version of Snow White is a lot more watchable than the original. I'm sure it'll eventually achieve whatever level of popularity it actually deserves.
 
I don't feel sorry for her at all. Disney gave her the opportunity of the lifetime and invested hundreds of millions of dollars, and she selfishly and narcissistically used that opportunity to spew her politics and hatred at people. She has been a PR disaster from day 1. Should have been replaced.
 
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I honestly don't believe any of the "controversey" surrounding the movie hurt it that much. Most people don't pay attention to any of that. Most of the hand-wringing was from people who wouldn't have seen it anyway. No, I think it's more the victim of Snow White not actually being that popular anymore, no songs that are familliar or that really hit, and a generally tepid marketing campoaign. It just has a "wait for streaming" vibe.
 













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