S/O: Divorce... how to cut down?

[sam_gordon]

Religious marriages and divorce?

OK? How does that help prevent divorce?

 

[sam_gordon]

Marriage would be taken more seriously and not like an advanced format for a hookup/divorce culture.

Hasn't "no premarital sex" been preached for generations? You think THATS why the divorce rate used to be lower? Had nothing to do other religious beliefs?

 

[Allison]

Religious marriages and divorce?

Again, I'm defending Sam here. He didn't mention religious marriages in his post. He didn't mention religion at all. You did and even went so far to discuss Catholic canon.

 

[Buzz Rules]

OK? How does that help prevent divorce?

Religious people treat marriage as a sacrament and secular people do not. I would argue that's part of why divorce rates for religious people (in non abusive marriages) last longer.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Again, I'm defending Sam here. He didn't mention religious marriages in his post. He didn't mention religion at all. You did and even went so far to discuss Catholic canon.

Sorry I'll leave the thread.

Hasn't "no premarital sex" been preached for generations? You think THATS why the divorce rate used to be lower? Had nothing to do other religious beliefs?

Hookup culture and throwaway marriage culture causes the divorce rate to go up. Religious or not.

 

[tvguy]

I truly believe you have to live with someone for a good period of time before deciding to marry. Religion frowns on that so you have so many people jumping in blindly to married life only to realize they are not as compatible as they thought.

Would be interesting to see if that actually makes any difference. I say that, because some of the nastiest divorces within my circle of friends and co-workers have been with people who lived together for several years. One couple said they felt marriage was nothing but a piece of paper. But when they did finally decide to get married, that piece of paper ruined their relationship. Both agreed to that, and both said THAT was the only thing they felt that changed. No kids before, or after, only thing that had changed was they had no made a commitment to another person.
That struck a note with my wife and I. We did not live together before marriage, because we both did not want to live with someone not willing to make a lifetime commitment. While I grew up in a Christian church household, living together was not forbidden in my church, many of the leaders in the Church were living with partners outside of marriage. My parents were married for life, until my dad passed away. My wife grew up an Agnostic. Her mom was married three times. However, clearly given two divorces, her mother did not consider marriage a life time commitment. So we kind of arrived at the same mindset from different circumstances.

 

[Southernmiss]

Sorry I'll leave the thread.

Hookup culture and throwaway marriage culture causes the divorce rate to go up. Religious or not.

Hmmm.

I think we've been fed that, but I would need to see non religion based objective studies.

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

Sorry I'll leave the thread.

Hookup culture and throwaway marriage culture causes the divorce rate to go up. Religious or not.

I'd argue that putting sex on a pedestal could cause people to rush into marriage. Waiting until they see if they are compatible seems much more conducive to a successful long term relationship.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Hmmm.

I think we've been fed that, but I would need to see non religion based objective studies.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/confronting-the-toll-of-hookup-culture

 

[sam_gordon]

Religious people treat marriage as a sacrament and secular people do not. I would argue that's part of why divorce rates for religious people (in non abusive marriages) last longer.

Maybe in your ideal world. I'm sure there are plenty of religious people who DONT treat a marriage as it should. I'm still not convinced the "stats" you posted say religious people stay married more.

Sorry I'll leave the thread.

I'm guessing not.

Hookup culture and throwaway marriage culture causes the divorce rate to go up. Religious or not.

I'd like to know your facts on the first part (hookup culture being the reason for more divorces).

 

[sam_gordon]

https://ifstudies.org/blog/confronting-the-toll-of-hookup-culture

The Institute For Family Studies qualifies as "non religious"? Unless I missed it, that link says nothing about premarital sex affecting divorce rate.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Maybe in your ideal world. I'm sure there are plenty of religious people who DONT treat a marriage as it should. I'm still not convinced the "stats" you posted say religious people stay married more.

Practicing religious people not only in name.

I'm guessing not.

I'll stay away from the thread after this post.

I'd like to know your facts on the first part (hookup culture being the reason for more divorces).

Marriage isn't taken as seriously because dating isn't taken as seriously anymore.

 

[Allison]

Sorry I'll leave the thread.

But you didn't.

 

[Buzz Rules]

The Institute For Family Studies qualifies as "non religious"? Unless I missed it, that link says nothing about premarital sex affecting divorce rate.

https://ifstudies.org/about-us

I'm talking about the mental issues it causes that could lead to a higher chance of divorce.

 

[Buzz Rules]

But you didn't.

I am now. Enjoy the thread.

 

[sam_gordon]

https://ifstudies.org/about-us

I'm talking about the mental issues it causes that could lead to a higher chance of divorce.

So a theory, not a fact.

 

[sam_gordon]

I am now. Enjoy the thread.

We'll see. History says you'll be back.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

A good marriage is hard work, and that’s why so many end in divorce. When the lust fades a tad and there is a need for selflessness…….many just are unwilling to do the work to build a lasting relationship. People are selfish and think the grass is always greener elsewhere. People are also lazy and unwilling to do the work to maintain the loving relationship.

Our government entitlements also financially rewards single motherhood over married couples and this has also led to the break down of our nuclear families imho.

 

[robinb]

The Catholic Church has definitely shifted more compassionately than in the 1980's.

My friend who needed an annulment if her ex-husband was not deceased would disagree. This happened this year, not back in the 1980’s. But … I think you’ve pushed the envelope on religious talk on the OG Community board.

 

[barkley]

the Oxford English Dictionary defines divorce as-

noun

the legal dissolution of a marriage by a court or other competent body.


defines marriage as-

noun
the legally or formally recognized union of two people as partners in a personal relationship.


why does anyone concern themselves with the legal or statistical status of anyone else's personal relationships?