ROFR Thread January to March 2025 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Knight0221]

I had a VGF ROFR’d last year when people were saying that “ROFR will never come back because Disney is broke”. Went back later with two more VGF contracts at a slightly higher price and they got through.

VGF is what we want to try next

 

[AstroBlasters]

VGF is what we want to try next

A lot of people love it.

 

[Girlstar30]

I am wondering why doesn't Disney just negotiate with sellers on DVCRESALEMARKET.COM and other places and buy back contracts on their own? Why do they just take it from under people and not just do their own negotiations or do they do both?

 

[AstroBlasters]

I am wondering why doesn't Disney just negotiate with sellers on DVCRESALEMARKET.COM and other places and buy back contracts on their own? Why do they just take it from under people and not just do their own negotiations or do they do both?

They don’t need to. Everything has to go through them anyways, so they can just cherry pick what they want.

 

[ehh]

VGF is what we want to try next

AKV and VGF seem to be a common pair I see around here. I wonder if there's enough ownership data lying around these forums for me to figure out if I'm just imagining it or not...

 

[Cfabar1]

AKV and VGF seem to be a common pair I see around here. I wonder if there's enough ownership data lying around these forums for me to figure out if I'm just imagining it or not...

It makes a lot of sense to me....

A lot of similarities between these resorts:
- lots of GREAT dining options
- very relaxing and unique/sprawling areas
- Unique areas and heavily themed - especially AKV
- If you're Marriott elite, you can have VGF as your MK resort, AKV as your AK resort, and then use S/D/SR as your EPCOT area resort...
- VGF points are high cost/low dues, AKV are low cost/high dues so they average nicely...

In fact just earlier this afternoon I was thinking AKV might be the next DVC resort we purchase if we quit acquiring VGF points at some point in time... I'm curious to see what they do with the Reno... I'm okay with lightening it up a little bit, but I really hope they don't take away the theming and charm of the resort...

 

[pzw90]

They don’t need to. Everything has to go through them anyways, so they can just cherry pick what they want.

This. Why would they negotiate for the best deal when others can do it for them.
They also don't need to, I'm sure they get a healthy stream of foreclosures and delinquent accounts that they get for at a fraction of the cost of the best deals we see posted.

 

[Cfabar1]

This. Why would they negotiate for the best deal when others can do it for them.
They also don't need to, I'm sure they get a healthy stream of foreclosures and delinquent accounts that they get for at a fraction of the cost of the best deals we see posted.

Not to mention I think they like the suspense/unknown/flexibility...

 

[AstroBlasters]

This. Why would they negotiate for the best deal when others can do it for them.
They also don't need to, I'm sure they get a healthy stream of foreclosures and delinquent accounts that they get for at a fraction of the cost of the best deals we see posted.

Good point. They get a lot of points back via foreclosure since they self finance.

 

[dvc_ocd]

It makes a lot of sense to me....

A lot of similarities between these resorts:
- lots of GREAT dining options
- very relaxing and unique/sprawling areas
- Unique areas and heavily themed - especially AKV
- If you're Marriott elite, you can have VGF as your MK resort, AKV as your AK resort, and then use S/D/SR as your EPCOT area resort...
- VGF points are high cost/low dues, AKV are low cost/high dues so they average nicely...

In fact just earlier this afternoon I was thinking AKV might be the next DVC resort we purchase if we quit acquiring VGF points at some point in time... I'm curious to see what they do with the Reno... I'm okay with lightening it up a little bit, but I really hope they don't take away the theming and charm of the resort...

Agreed across the board.

We view the Poly-Island-Floridian as basically one large compound. Get some pork nachos then rent a boat? Sure. Snack at Gasparilla with some Dole Whip for dessert? Why not. AKV is a nice complement all around - cost and vibe - and we're big Animal Kingdom fans, so it's already on the radar even though we haven't closed on our first contract...

The bummer with Swan/Dolphin for someone in the Marriott ecosystem is that they are terrible values for Bonvoy point redemption. I've also heard that upgrades for higher level elite members are not common at either.

 

[dvc_ocd]

Not to mention I think they like the suspense/unknown/flexibility...

Now I can't get the image out of my head of the ROFR department being staffed by Disney villains. Jafar wandering around asking about TPS reports and laughing as he shuffles requests out of order. Ursula at a desk saying "Your contract will do nicely..."

 

[SpaceshipEarth]

$101 a point. Both times the sellers took our first offer

You’re making me nervous. We have an AKV contract for 200 points at $100/point that has been waiting on ROFR for a bit over two weeks. :-/

As an aside, I wonder if certain use years are more attractive to Disney for buy back purposes for whatever reasons. For instance, maybe they would have passed on your contract had it been a February use year rather than an August?

 

[Knight0221]

You’re making me nervous. We have an AKV contract for 200 points at $100/point that has been waiting on ROFR for a bit over two weeks. :-/

As an aside, I wonder if certain use years are more attractive to Disney for buy back purposes for whatever reasons. For instance, maybe they would have passed on your contract had it been a February use year rather than an August?

Our last one they took was September this one they took was August. It seems to be price and points across the board to me. It's a frustrating process especially when you lose 2 in a row.

 

[RuntheMouse]

It makes a lot of sense to me....

A lot of similarities between these resorts:
- lots of GREAT dining options
- very relaxing and unique/sprawling areas
- Unique areas and heavily themed - especially AKV
- If you're Marriott elite, you can have VGF as your MK resort, AKV as your AK resort, and then use S/D/SR as your EPCOT area resort...
- VGF points are high cost/low dues, AKV are low cost/high dues so they average nicely...

Emphasis mine. We tried Swolphin as a cost effective option and it was a no go for us. Lifetime Titanium so we have spent our fair share at Marriott properties. Swolphin is just another Marriott to us. A lot of the magic is lost there. So while it’s great in a pinch, it wouldn’t work for us as a long term EPCOT/HS home base. The two times we’ve stayed there, we were upgraded so that was a plus.

 

[juxtapose]

You’re making me nervous. We have an AKV contract for 200 points at $100/point that has been waiting on ROFR for a bit over two weeks. :-/

As an aside, I wonder if certain use years are more attractive to Disney for buy back purposes for whatever reasons. For instance, maybe they would have passed on your contract had it been a February use year rather than an August?

Same. I have a 240 points at $99/point that has been in almost 3 weeks. I wish if they’d take it, they’d take it quicker so we could move on to a new one.

 

[lilsonicfan]

I don’t know if UY matters to DVC in ROFR since I thought they could sell points with pretty much any UY. Maybe unit number matters more ?

 

[Hubalorian]

It makes a lot of sense to me....

A lot of similarities between these resorts:
- lots of GREAT dining options
- very relaxing and unique/sprawling areas
- Unique areas and heavily themed - especially AKV
- If you're Marriott elite, you can have VGF as your MK resort, AKV as your AK resort, and then use S/D/SR as your EPCOT area resort...
- VGF points are high cost/low dues, AKV are low cost/high dues so they average nicely...

In fact just earlier this afternoon I was thinking AKV might be the next DVC resort we purchase if we quit acquiring VGF points at some point in time... I'm curious to see what they do with the Reno... I'm okay with lightening it up a little bit, but I really hope they don't take away the theming and charm of the resort...

All very good points to why I own AKV and VGF. They both have very nice splash pad areas for our young children too

 

[SpaceshipEarth]

I don’t know if UY matters to DVC in ROFR since I thought they could sell points with pretty much any UY. Maybe unit number matters more ?

Interesting. I don’t know if they can reassign use years to contracts they buy back. I know they can combine or divide contracts though.

I have noticed that, at least for AKV, there are many more December contracts available than any other use year. I wonder why this is as I would think DVC would try to have the contracts evenly distributed so that not everyone gets their points at the same time.

 

[darkconz]

Interesting. I don’t know if they can reassign use years to contracts they buy back. I know they can combine or divide contracts though.

I have noticed that, at least for AKV, there are many more December contracts available than any other use year. I wonder why this is as I would think DVC would try to have the contracts evenly distributed so that not everyone gets their points at the same time.

I read somewhere that once they take the contracts back, those UY can be reassigned to other UYs.

 

[thadhouse]

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