PVB Tower Charts, Sales Date and more!!!

[Hubalorian]

D'ya think they'll get to that point ("fire sale") with PVB at some point? Let's speculate!

I say unlikely.

I think it’s likely, but it’ll be after price increases to the base price. So it’ll seem like you are getting a great deal. Wait, if I buy 200 points now, I can get Magical Beginnings, 15 off per point, plus a welcome home and visa discount to get $50 off per point? That’s a fire sale! However, the base price would likely have increased to be around 249, so how great of a deal is it?

 

[Phatscott25]

I wonder how fast the rental store can get me $$ for these!

Generally pretty fast for Poly. Poly and BCV are typically in demand the most. Right now there's several open reservation requests on their site for Poly. I don't know if you're familiar with how it works but basically you just pick one, and click claim. Within an hour, they'll send you the guest details. You book the room, and give them the confirmation number. Usually within 48 hours, you have 75% of the proceeds. They hold back the other 25% until check-in day to ensure the guest has a room and you don't cancel. Very easy.

 

[emchen]

Any DVC owner can rent out their points for someone else to use to take a trip. For the Poly you can get around $18-$20 per point for this. MB is a clever promotion where you buy points from Disney and immediately rent back your first year’s points, not to a third party but to Disney itself, for (I believe) $20 per point. Clever because lots of people then think of their purchase as “buying in at $195 per point” as opposed to “buying in at $215 per point and renting out my first year’s points for $20 per point”, which can help people feel better about their purchase price.

"Killjoy was here..."

 

[kgou]

D'ya think they'll get to that point ("fire sale") with PVB at some point? Let's speculate!

I say unlikely.

As someone who bought in during the VGF fire sale, I'd love the answer to be yes but am inclined to agree with your take that it's unlikely.

 

[Sandisw]

Poly has always been an outlier in that zero of the common areas belong to the condo association. Not even a bench.

I can’t think of another resort written up that way. I imagine there must be a reason for it but I can’t for the life of me figure out what it would be. But then continuing that with the new tower make the difference between Poly and the other resorts on common area ownership even starker.

In practice it’s probably a meaningless distinction. But it’s one of those weird quirks I find fascinating.

Pools at VGF are the same way…they do not belong to the association.

 

[The_MT]

VGF2 had a better deal last summer than when it first went on sale and VDH had a better deal this summer than when it first went on sale. I think future Poly pricing will depend on the pace of sales and how quickly they build Reflections.

 

[AstroBlasters]

It’s also very important to remember that BPK was a flip, so a much lower price threshold to maintain a target profitability margin than a new build. Especially if it rents well while they are waiting to sell the points (e.g. AUL).

Outside of a massive economic disruption…. I wouldn’t expect a fire sale anytime in the next few years and by then the base price will be $250pp+

 

[aka Charles]

D'ya think they'll get to that point ("fire sale") with PVB at some point? Let's speculate!

I say unlikely.

I, too, think it is unlikely, but I don't think even DVD knows.

It would be great for a lot of us if they did.

As for me, I am still planning on getting a fixed week for December, but I am not in a hurry.
If I purchased now, they would not be able to give me the reservation for the fixed week this December.
I already have plans to take the family to Aulani in December 2025, so the first time I would be able to use the fixed week will be December 2026.
And I may not use it until 2027.
That gives me time to check out the actual tower and rooms.
Maybe I will want to adjust which view I purchase, anything's possible (until 10 days after the contract is closed, lol).

If, by some miracle, they have a fire sale between now and 2027, I will probably grab it then.
Even without a fire sale, they may bring back MB and welcome home offers to entice me, lol.
Otherwise I am fine waiting.
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[maui22]

I would expect more or larger boats, not better monorail service. There’s no easy or even difficult way to add capacity to the monorail; to do so, you’re taking it offline for a painfully long time.

Edited because I forgot a key word!

I believe there is work scheduled (or maybe already in progress) for the Polynesian pier area. Perhaps that work is for larger boats?

 

[Tatebeck]

It’s also very important to remember that BPK was a flip, so a much lower price threshold to maintain a target profitability margin than a new build. Especially if it rents well while they are waiting to sell the points (e.g. AUL).

Outside of a massive economic disruption…. I wouldn’t expect a fire sale anytime in the next few years and by then the base price will be $250pp+

True, BPK was kind of the reverse situation of Poly Tower. BPK was the easier flip and most people think the original VGF rooms are nicer. In this case the original PVB was kind of the flip and now the Island Tower is the new construction.

But in both cases they were combined into the same association with the existing rooms, so the points at each resort can be used the same (unless buying a fixed week). Anyone buying at BPK could use their points exclusively at the original VGF if they wanted to for example. So buyers definitely got a good deal there and are getting a worse deal here at Poly.

So it cost Disney more to build the new tower than to flip BPK. Now they have to pass that cost onto the new buyers at Poly if they want to make around the same margins as they did with BPK. I understand why, but that makes it a better deal for Disney and a worse deal for the new buyers.

 

[aka Charles]

I would expect more or larger boats, not better monorail service. There’s no easy or even difficult way to add capacity to the monorail; to do so, you’re taking it offline for a painfully long time.

I believe there is work scheduled (or maybe already in progress) for the Polynesian pier area. Perhaps that work is for larger boats?

It would be great if they added capacity to the water transportation services for the Magic Kingdom area.

Currently they have only 10 boats (not counting the large ferries at the TTC) that service this area on 4 different routes.
6 Motor Launches - the small open boats (not handicap accessible)
4 Motor Cruisers - the larger, mostly enclosed boats (somewhat accessible, but can be difficult loading scooters/wheelchairs)

That is only 1 Motor Launch and 1 Motor Cruiser per route, with 2 small Motor Launches to fill in where needed.
And that is assuming they are all running and available.

Even without the addition of the Island Tower, they have needed to increase this fleet.
Now with the new tower, and maybe Reflections 2.0 in the future, they need to sooner rather than later.

Not only will they need more boats, but I think any new boats will need to have enclosed seating for protection from the elements and be much easier to load scooters/wheelchairs/strollers etc.
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[DanCali]

So, in order to get the 17-point Deluxe Studio Standard rooms in January or May, I think we probably need some Poly points.

Even if I could get a 25-point Poly resale contract, you have to take what you can get on the resale market and who knows when that will come along. When factoring in the slightly lower closing costs via direct, the 2024 UY included points, the absence of my daily hand-wringing during a 65+ day resale closing, and the absence of needing to stalk the resale sites until I can be the successful purchaser on one of these hard to come by contracts, buying direct just sounded better to us.

For smaller contracts the decision of resale vs direct is much easier. You don't get incentives for direct but you also pay a small contract premium on the resale market. More importantly, even if you're overpaying per point, the consequences are mitigated by the fact that you are multiplying that amount by a small number of points... So paying $40/pt extra for say just 25 points adds up to $1000 which, in the grand scheme of things, if not that consequential for most people who can afford Disney (and, as you point out, there some intangible short-term and long-term benefits to buying direct). When those 25 points become 250 points, and that $1000 becomes $10,000, it probably merits more thought.

One pet peeve of mine is that we have a hard time getting the standard view at BWV (yes - I am kicking myself for selling that contract!) so we're paying a premium in points for a view that we typically don't care about. As much as we love BWV though, we're not going to overpay to buy points in a DVC with just 18 years left.

If you're kicking yourself for selling it, why not buy a resale contract again? Don't you think you can get one for what you sold your for? 18 years is still a very long time - you could raise a kid from cradle to college in that time...


When we started out with DVC I also didn't like the idea of 2042 contracts but we did end up owning at BRV and BWV. The BRV is just 50 points so my reasoning was similar to yours. The BWV was a somewhat stripped contract that came at a relatively (very) good price that I could live with. No regrets on either one...

 

[supercarrie]

Just received an email from my guide that they have declared 1 duo studio standard view and 3 deluxe studio standard view for favorite weeks. Not sure if this is old news (he is CA based) but thought it was interesting given the report yesterday that FW wasn't available for certain weeks. Perhaps some weeks truly are already sold out given the limited number of rooms available as of now.

 

[mkatsy]

My case for buying a 25 point direct add on.

We bought our 3 smallish point contracts via resale (actually 4 but we sold one @ BWV years ago). I NEVER thought I would buy direct due to the higher cost BUT we only need just a few more points to be all set for the way we travel.

We own at two of our favorites (BLT and AKL) but use some of those points, and our third contract (HHI) to sleep around mostly to BWV, BC, and Poly (but we just don't like the longhouses).

One pet peeve of mine is that we have a hard time getting the standard view at BWV (yes - I am kicking myself for selling that contract!) so we're paying a premium in points for a view that we typically don't care about. As much as we love BWV though, we're not going to overpay to buy points in a DVC with just 18 years left.

We love the decor of the new Poly Tower and much prefer being in a "hotel" with dining options accessible inside so we are 99% sure we will want to stay in PIT once per year. We take multiple "trips" to WDW for only one or two nights at a time because we live in Florida now.

So, in order to get the 17-point Deluxe Studio Standard rooms in January or May, I think we probably need some Poly points.

Even if I could get a 25-point Poly resale contract, you have to take what you can get on the resale market and who knows when that will come along. When factoring in the slightly lower closing costs via direct, the 2024 UY included points, the absence of my daily hand-wringing during a 65+ day resale closing, and the absence of needing to stalk the resale sites until I can be the successful purchaser on one of these hard to come by contracts, buying direct just sounded better to us.

So we went to the Preview Center yesterday and got our add on. The only issue is, after seeing the model (which looks better in person), we upped our purchase to 34 points so that we wouldn't have to borrow to get 2 nights per year We got our DocuSign docs via email last night.

With this add-on we are done and have enough points. If we find we don't have enough I doubt we would buy direct again unless it's for less than 40 points. For a bigger contract we would go resale but that's because we already have our DVC blue card status (til 2042). Still, I guess I should never say never because I thought that I would never buy direct before today, but here we are...

After you’ve gone through the resale process, watching those direct points load to your account same day is addictive

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

After you’ve gone through the resale process, watching those direct points load to your account same day is addictive

So true. I saw them 20 minutes after talking to my guide yesterday.

Assuming everyone got their docusign by now for points purchased yesterday? I had docs within an hour of conversation with my guide yesterday.

Interesting to note about fixed weeks and availability - I wonder how many 1 bdrm theme park view rooms there are in total at the tower....

 

[Phatscott25]

So true. I saw them 20 minutes after talking to my guide yesterday.

Assuming everyone got their docusign by now for points purchased yesterday? I had docs within an hour of conversation with my guide yesterday.

Interesting to note about fixed weeks and availability - I wonder how many 1 bdrm theme park view rooms there are in total at the tower....

I have not, but my guide told me they were pretty backed up and it could be a few days. They haven't charged my card either.

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

I have not, but my guide told me they were pretty backed up and it could be a few days. They haven't charged my card either.

Yeah those happen at the same time. We got the docusign, points, and card charging all at once along with an email

 

[abiksr]

alright, finally got the docusign email and points loaded. Next available notary appointment is on Oct 8. So, need to wait until then for the contract to be complete. In the mean time, I am assuming I should call member services to bank the 2024 points? I want to use them for my next trip (May 2025). My use year is Feb.

 

[Sandisw]

alright, finally got the docusign email and points loaded. Next available notary appointment is on Oct 8. So, need to wait until then for the contract to be complete. In the mean time, I am assuming I should call member services to bank the 2024 points? I want to use them for my next trip (May 2025). My use year is Feb.

Yes, give MS a call! And congratulations!!

 

[abiksr]

Yes, give MS a call! And congratulations!!

Thank you !!!