Need Help... Looking to Add Points Resale

[disneydad7281231]

Contract size can never change so no matter what else you buy, it will always be its own.

Once you are eligible for membership extras, you will alway be as long as DVD doesn’t change the rules.

They have always grandfathered and I don’t see a reason they would change that.

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So I would have:
250 pt membership
50 pt membership
50 pt membership
50 pt membership

BUT can "add" it to the same UY?

 

[Sandisw]

So I would have:
250 pt membership
50 pt membership
50 pt membership
50 pt membership

BUT can "add" it to the same UY?

Memberships and contract numbers are different. Everything with the same UY and owners is one membership.

Adding on happens when you want them in the same one.

A new membership only happens when you have a different UY or diffeeent owners.

For example my August UY has a 300 point SSR contract and then a 175 RIV contract

Contract numbers are the same except for the end…ie…12356.01 and 12356.02

So, as long as you have the same UY, it’s all one membership with multiple contracts.

 

[disneydad7281231]

Memberships and contract numbers are different. Everything with the same UY and owners is one membership.

Adding on happens when you want them in the same one.

A new membership only happens when you have a different UY or diffeeent owners.

For example my August UY has a 300 point SSR contract and then a 175 RIV contract

Contract numbers are the same except for the end…ie…12356.01 and 12356.02

So, as long as you have the same UY, it’s all one membership with multiple contracts.

Ok got it! When you book, do you pick what contract points come from? For example if I want to book at trip for POLY I would use my resale and save the direct for if I want to book RIV.

I see most say you 100% want same UY but is there any benefit to having multiple UYs?

 

[AstroBlasters]

Ok got it! When you book, do you pick what contract points come from? For example if I want to book at trip for POLY I would use my resale and save the direct for if I want to book RIV.

I see most say you 100% want same UY but is there any benefit to having multiple UYs?

Yes you can pick and chose what points you want. We treat our direct points like gold because of the additional booking flexibility. (I.E did a room open up for a last minute trip to VDH for Star Wars Nite?)

I would advise you in the strongest possible terms to keep everything in the same membership/use year.

All 150 points have to be in the same membership/UY to qualify for DVC-Y membership extras.

 

[LittleBitGoofy]

Ok got it! When you book, do you pick what contract points come from? For example if I want to book at trip for POLY I would use my resale and save the direct for if I want to book RIV.

I see most say you 100% want same UY but is there any benefit to having multiple UYs?

I'm glad we have just one UY, but some folks see an advantage in multiple UYs. I would never take on a new UY just to buy a "great deal", but if you have a motivated reason and are prepared for it then it's certainly manageable to have multiple UYs.

You do get to pick which contracts during making a reservation and options like a resale Poly just wouldn't be available for Riv. But you don't get to pick "10 pts from this contract and 20 pts from that contract." You just pick the contract bucket as a whole. I wish it would let me do the prior over the latter, but that's not how the system work.

 

[disneydad7281231]

I'm glad we have just one UY, but some folks see an advantage in multiple UYs. I would never take on a new UY just to buy a "great deal", but if you have a motivated reason and are prepared for it then it's certainly manageable to have multiple UYs.

You do get to pick which contracts during making a reservation and options like a resale Poly just wouldn't be available for Riv. But you don't get to pick "10 pts from this contract and 20 pts from that contract." You just pick the contract bucket as a whole. I wish it would let me do the prior over the latter, but that's not how the system work.

Interesting so if I had 10 pts left on my resale contract and 150 on direct and wanted to book an eligible resort (not RIV) can I apply those 10 pts then then 150pt contract?

 

[LittleBitGoofy]

Interesting so if I had 10 pts left on my resale contract and 150 on direct and wanted to book an eligible resort (not RIV) can I apply those 10 pts then then 150pt contract?

Yes, you can pick the order of the contracts to pull from and then it'll empty that bucket first. The system is also smart enough to grab banked points from the lineup before it takes current UY points. It's very efficient, but I'd just love a little more granularity of control which probably isn't necessary.

 

[Girlstar30]

Ok got it! When you book, do you pick what contract points come from? For example if I want to book at trip for POLY I would use my resale and save the direct for if I want to book RIV.

I see most say you 100% want same UY but is there any benefit to having multiple UYs?

The advantage of multiple uy is more waitlists, which to me is a huge advantage. The downside is more of a headache. You get two waitlist requests per membership. Do you value simplicity or don't mind headache to have more chances get what you want?

It would also be easier to find a contract with a different use year resale and possibly cheaper. But some people hate having two uy so much that they sell just to have the same UY.

 

[PolyRob]

Interesting so if I had 10 pts left on my resale contract and 150 on direct and wanted to book an eligible resort (not RIV) can I apply those 10 pts then then 150pt contract?

You can also swap points around if you book and change your mind later.

Say you booked PVB with your 150 direct and then cancelled something on the PVB resale earlier in the UY and want to now use those newly freed points on a PVB stay in the 11-month period so you can bank the 150 PVB direct forward. Since the contracts are same UY and home booking advantage you can swap points from contracts in and out at any time on your reservations (doesn't circumvent holding). You wouldn't get the lock.

 

[Tumnus]

Ok got it! When you book, do you pick what contract points come from? For example if I want to book at trip for POLY I would use my resale and save the direct for if I want to book RIV.

I see most say you 100% want same UY but is there any benefit to having multiple UYs?

Before I understood the implications I took a good deal with a different use year. That being said, I am a local and can travel at a drop of a hat essentially, so if a room pops up we can grab it. I love having two use years so I always have flexibility - use points that won't get stuck in holding and trap me. Ideally I would have gotten all the same use year, but it clears out the four months of limbo that would have impacted me with last minute decisions.

Example: My original was Sept because May was the rollover point and we did not expect to use many points in the summer due to the heat. Then we got June. If we only had September, we would be hesitant to risk our points in June/July/August as we can't adjust as much. Now, we have 8 days booked over those months to take advantage of a good room (cheap GFV), double water parks (split stay for two free water parks), and a Vero Beach Trip. I'm very happy with how it worked.

 

[Girlstar30]

I am also happy with mine because it's also just two months apart (Feb and December). I know it's technically 10 months apart but all you have to remember is the banking deadline for both and you should be good.

There are different methods to helping you book such as transferring points that can be banked, it's really not that difficult, I am almost done booking this year's trip off one contract and then I will use the other contract to book the rest and then bank and rinse and repeat next year. I will try to keep the contracts seperate for booking to avoid confusion, but i am okay with transferring as well when necessary.

The only thing that sucks is if for whatever reason we can't go my points will go in holding, but that would have happened no matter what if I stuck with Feb use year and went on vacation in Sept and don't cancel 30 days ahead so yeah.

If you decide to go with two different UY and familiarize yourself with all the rules (must use borrowed points and can't undo it, banked transferred points will retain their original uy, etc. You should be just fine.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I am also happy with mine because it's also just two months apart (Feb and December). I know it's technically 10 months apart but all you have to remember is the banking deadline for both and you should be good.

There are different methods to helping you book such as transferring points that can be banked, it's really not that difficult, I am almost done booking this year's trip off one contract and then I will use the other contract to book the rest and then bank and rinse and repeat next year. I will try to keep the contracts seperate for booking to avoid confusion, but i am okay with transferring as well when necessary.

The only thing that sucks is if for whatever reason we can't go my points will go in holding, but that would have happened no matter what if I stuck with Feb use year and went on vacation in Sept and don't cancel 30 days ahead so yeah.

If you decide to go with two different UY and familiarize yourself with all the rules (must use borrowed points and can't undo it, banked transferred points will retain their original uy, etc. You should be just fine.

I think you might want to go through your own experiences on having two memberships for a few years……

 

[TCRAIG]

IF you get an AP now and Disney discontinues that option for DVC you would still be locked in if you renew?

You should always be able to get or renew some sort of AP - DVC or not - but if you want a ‘discounted’ or ‘DVC’ type pass - that is NOT guaranteed renewable if they do away with that pass altogether - like they did with the old gold and platinum passes. They could make you renew to a standard (non-discounted) AP.

 

[Girlstar30]

I think you might want to go through your own experiences on having two memberships for a few years……

Yeah i mean unless they change things i should be good.

Everything is subjective to what the person wants. I think it's a bad deal to buy BWV points because I don't think it's worth the money at this point, but you do because thats where you want to stay regardless of the overall points value at this point.

4 waitlists is worth the possible headache to me, but we will see if I change my mind!

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yeah i mean unless they change things i should be good.

Everything is subjective to what the person wants. I think it's a bad deal to buy BWV points because I don't think it's worth the money at this point, but you do because thats where you want to stay regardless of the overall points value at this point.

4 waitlists is worth the possible headache to me, but we will see if I change my mind!

I guarantee that if you are still with DVC in 5 years you will look back at some of your posts here and think “wow, I still had a lot to learn and would have done a few things differently”.

That applies to almost every owner.

So, I would be cautions about giving advice to others until you have a bit more experience under your belt.

There are reasons the overwhelmingly majority of members (not 100%) recommend that families (individuals vs couples vs families) with a smaller number of points keep their points in the same membership and generally at a single home resort.

 

[Brian Noble]

I'm reminded of an aphorism I use often: "By definition, most people are not exceptions."

One consequence: it is useful for me to recognize when I am an exception before sharing my experience with other folks. It's one thing to say: "This is the way to do it." It's another to say: "This is the way I did it." And yet a third: "This is the way I did it, but it is not the way most people do, for good reason."

 

[Girlstar30]

I guarantee that if you are still with DVC in 5 years you will look back at some of your posts here and think “wow, I still had a lot to learn and would have done a few things differently”.

That applies to almost every owner.

So, I would be cautions about giving advice to others until you have a bit more experience under your belt.

There are reasons the overwhelmingly majority of members (not 100%) recommend that families with a smaller number of points keep their points in the same membership and generally at a single home resort.

I didn't advise him to get to two uy. I told him why it could be appealing to some like myself (the waitlists) and how some people say it's not worth it and a headache and hate it so much that they get rid of having two uy's.

Nobody had mentioned the extra waitlists, which is worth mentioning regardless of how much experience I have.

 

[Brian Noble]

Here's another one I use a lot: "I don't know what I don't know."

I've been staying in DVC villas a little more than one week a year since 2008. But, with the exception of one single night renting from another owner, all of those stays were booked as Interval or RCI exchanges. I paid a lot of attention to how the DVC program worked along the way, because that gave me a lot of information about what might be possible as an exchange.

It is fair to say that I probably knew more about the system than many owners, despite never having been an owner myself.

Even so, there have some subtleties in how the various booking, banking, and borrowing rules interact that I didn't quite fully grasp until I started actually using them. I knew what each of the individual rules were, but I hadn't fully worked out how they impact each other, and that led to a sub-optimal decision or two. Nothing that was an "expensive mistake", but I gave up some flexibility earlier than I needed to.

 

[Girlstar30]

Here's another one I use a lot: "I don't know what I don't know."

I've been staying in DVC villas a little more than one week a year since 2008. But, with the exception of one single night renting from another owner, all of those stays were booked as Interval or RCI exchanges. I paid a lot of attention to how the DVC program worked along the way, because that gave me a lot of information about what might be possible as an exchange.

It is fair to say that I probably knew more about the system than many owners, despite never having been an owner myself.

Even so, there have some subtleties in how the various booking, banking, and borrowing rules interact that I didn't quite fully grasp until I started actually using them. I knew what each of the individual rules were, but I hadn't fully worked out how they impact each other, and that led to a sub-optimal decision or two. Nothing that was an "expensive mistake", but I gave up some flexibility earlier than I needed to.

One thing i did that was an "i messed up" moment was borrowing points without realizing that you couldn't unborrow them

That caused stress for sure and then i didn't realize that Ms could reallocate borrowed points to reservations you already booked so I thought I had to cancel everything and rebook and risk losing everything so I was so mad until Sandi told me that i don't have to do all that.

That being said, I learn something new everyday with this process

 

[VGCgroupie]

I guarantee that if you are still with DVC in 5 years you will look back at some of your posts here and think “wow, I still had a lot to learn and would have done a few things differently”.

That applies to almost every owner.

So, I would be cautions about giving advice to others until you have a bit more experience under your belt.

There are reasons the overwhelmingly majority of members (not 100%) recommend that families (individuals vs couples vs families) with a smaller number of points keep their points in the same membership and generally at a single home resort.

I used to think multiple UY was something to worry about because thats all most mention. Im now realizing it can be hard to juggle multiple contracts even if they are in the same UY. If the DVC site was more user friendly it would be much easier