Most overrated school subject?

Overrated? I don't know. Most of these posts seem to be about classes people didn't like -- not really the same thing as something not being useful or being overrated. I'd argue that subjects like math and science are critical at the basic levels -- if for no other reason than for kids to test out their interest and aptitude -- how else would we end up with scientists, mathematicians, doctors, etc., etc.?

The closest to overrated is PE, IMO. I'd trade it out for more recess where kids could be active, but do we all need to know the intricacies of volleyball formations?

What I'd say is VERY sorely lacking is a class on basic financial literacy -- I think that Americans could really, really use that... more so than PE.
 
Some of the classes that people think are overrated are the classes that some students live for. Many of you are posting electives. One person’s waste of time, is another student’s lifeline. For me, math was a cause for major stress and I hated it, but I would never say it’s overrated. I think the trades classes need to make a comeback. It’s encouraging to see some of our students who struggle with academics thrive in shop classes. In my career I see so many classes like this cut in favor of more college prep courses and it makes me worry for the kids. I’m probably taking the word “overrated” too literally lol.
 
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Oh, it’s nothing extraordinary. The class had a midterm & a final. No assignments, no book, no reading material. Just lectures 3 times a week. So, I had to learn new study techniques. I created a shorthand I could decipher, and I recorded the lectures. After class, I’d sit down with my recorder & rewrite my notes neatly one time and never look at them again. Got an A. The girl who sat next to me refused my advice. She failed the class despite being there every day. She’s now assistant superintendent of a nearby district LOL.
 
It's not a 'subject', but ANY and ALL projects to be done at home and brought in completed. Sooooo many parents do the project for the kid, even in high school. And teachers even say they know this happens. So why the heck are they assigned?????

One of my classmates made a beautiful paper steamboat for a Mark Twain project and the teacher was convinced he’d purchased it somewhere and threatened to fail him. A friend & I had to come to his defense & explain that this guy was EXTREMELY gifted artistically (he’s now an architect).
 
It's not a 'subject', but ANY and ALL projects to be done at home and brought in completed. Sooooo many parents do the project for the kid, even in high school. And teachers even say they know this happens. So why the heck are they assigned?????

Our schools have started doing away with at home projects for precisely this reason. We live in a very competitive district where many, many kids are trying to get into an Ivy League. Now, all projects are done fully at school, including elementary level stuff. Parents send in the materials and the kids work on the projects completely independently at school. Last year was the first year this was fully implemented, and my 6th grader did his entire science fair project at school and it was glorious!
 
I don't think any subject is overrated but some should be electives once you hit high school. Art and music for example are important to development in the lower grades but I don't think anyone should have to take either once they hit high school and especially college. I only had to take a combined .5 semester (so one quarter) of either in high school and didn't have to take either in college but we had both at least weekly in 1st through 8th grade.

Home Economics can fill a niche if the student can't get them at home but that is really something that should be learned from your family and passed down in my opinion.

Something that seems to be under-taught is grammar. We had years of sentence diagramming and it made for a better professional writing experience. English comp and lit are not replacements for full on grammar in the lower grades.
 
In your opinion

I would say Science , some people really enjoy it at school but I don't in the slightest.
Whether you LIKE a subject has nothing to do with whether it's USEFUL. For example, I hate math -- always have -- yet we all use it every single day, and I'm glad I was forced to learn it. Science and math are both about understanding /recognizing patterns in the world, and they're about stretching your critical thinking skills so that you can think through problems in the real world. Whether you personally enjoy them or not, they're the exact opposite of over-rated.

The other is on the "life skills pathway" and he is learning "real world math," mostly so he will be able to budget, spend wisely, and not get taken advantage of (like he won't fall for someone giving him the wrong change due, for example). He will learn about loans, interest rates, credit cards, etc. My other one won't get those classes, so we will have to teach him that stuff ourselves. It seems strange that the son who will likely need more support as an adult will get a better "real world" education than the one who might actually be able to live independently.
As a high school teacher, I cringe every time I hear people say, "No one's teaching our kids about real world math!" Yeah, our students are instructed in this topic in multiple classes over the course of their years in high school. They don't take one class labeled "Finance" or "Practical Math", but they discuss theses things in math class, in Civics /Government class, and even in literature. I'm always picking up worksheets that kids lose in my classroom, and I see exercises on calculating interest, on using loans wisely, etc. Thing is, it doesn't seem real to the kids /don't stick with the kids because they don't have a real-life application for it yet ... and that's where it falls to parents to provide real-life opportunities to use what they've learned: budgeting for back-to-school clothes, choosing groceries, discussing investments.

What state is this?

I am trying to do as much research into this as I can, because I really do want to argue this with the district. It seems really unfair. Unfortunately, our state has said that local districts can set their own (higher) graduation standards, so we might have no luck.
Doesn't matter the state. Special Ed laws are federal.

Given the obesity issues in this country, I’d call PE & Health two of the most UNDERRATED classes in school, along with my personal choice of typing.
Yeah, our health/PE teachers say, If you don't take care of your body, where will you live?

We don't teach typing any more; at least, not the typing I took in high school -- typing was literally new for me in high school. Instead, today we teach Computer Applications in high school. The class assumes that the students know how to type, but the class teaches how to use programs well. In my classroom, I can tell who's had that class and who hasn't. The kids who've had Computer Applications know how to format a word document (instead of using lots of spaces), know how to merge files, how to use email, etc.

The "digital divide" is real. About half my students genuinely are stumped with simple tasks like printing only page 4 of a multi-page document or saving a file to a flash drive; these students are consumers of technology, but they don't really understand it.

We had a liberal chemistry teacher who only lasted that one year (but made chemistry interesting), and one time a sub who taught the boys how to make gun powder.
Wow. Our students make soap. You went to the cool school.

We went to one our dd’s meet the teacher night last week and she has been placed in “ discreet math.” I thought what in the H is that?:rotfl:The teacher went on to tell us this is the class for kids who really don’t do well in math( algebra, trig, etc...) Come to find out this was practical math. They learn about taxes, 401K, financing, budgeting, etc... I was thrilled that this was something she can use! When she goes to college she WILL NOT be a math major but now she can balance her check book!
Discreet math is a class name that popped up only 2-3 years ago. It's aimed at students who are bound for community college or private colleges -- kids for whom mat doesn't come easily /naturally. I would not call it "practical math" because they do review Algebra and do a bit of Trig, but practical math is a part of the class.
 
I don't think any subject is overrated but some should be electives once you hit high school. Art and music for example are important to development in the lower grades but I don't think anyone should have to take either once they hit high school and especially college. I only had to take a combined .5 semester (so one quarter) of either in high school and didn't have to take either in college but we had both at least weekly in 1st through 8th grade.

Home Economics can fill a niche if the student can't get them at home but that is really something that should be learned from your family and passed down in my opinion.

Something that seems to be under-taught is grammar. We had years of sentence diagramming and it made for a better professional writing experience. English comp and lit are not replacements for full on grammar in the lower grades.

I always found sentence diagramming to be more about diagramming than abiut grammar (at least beyond the basics).
 
Foreign language. What is required/offered is never enough to gain any real mastery and it is almost immediately forgotten for lack of use as soon as the classes end.

And PE. What a wasted opportunity! Instead of teaching lifelong fitness skills, they're still forcing every non-athletic kid in the school to embarrass themselves on a basketball court and a baseball diamond. Never mind that even for most people who enjoy them, team sports end with high school graduation. Given the serious issues our country has with weight and health, it seems like PE would be fertile ground for introducing lifelong fitness skills/activities like running/walking, swimming, kayaking, yoga, etc. but since the class is usually taught by varsity coaching staff, they're still clinging to the old-school "who is picked last" team sports model.
 
Discreet math is a class name that popped up only 2-3 years ago. It's aimed at students who are bound for community college or private colleges -- kids for whom mat doesn't come easily /naturally. I would not call it "practical math" because they do review Algebra and do a bit of Trig, but practical math is a part of the class.

I actually took the class a bit more than 10 years ago in high school paired with one semester of trig. We mapped out stop lights for most efficient traffic, learned a couple of ways to “fairly” divide an inheritance, mapped out a college tour using Mapquest and a larger project on of our choice (zombie apocalypse on college campus with how fast it would spread, etc).

I did learn the hard way that the college class named similar to this is a completely different course and at a much higher level.
 
I don't think any subject is overrated but some should be electives once you hit high school. Art and music for example are important to development in the lower grades but I don't think anyone should have to take either once they hit high school and especially college. I only had to take a combined .5 semester (so one quarter) of either in high school and didn't have to take either in college but we had both at least weekly in 1st through 8th grade.

I think there's something to be said for the well-rounded curriculum. It would be a real shame to let kids decide, based on their half-hour-a-week elementary school electives, that they're not interested in art or music. Especially since in many elems., it is basically a play-based program that doesn't really offer any instruction or chance to develop any working knowledge of even the foundations of those disciplines.
 
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Special Education laws do not say that special ed students are entitled to a traditional high school diploma. That is up to the state/local district. By law, all they have to do is provide educational services until a student ages out at 22 or graduates with a diploma OR Certificate of Completion.
 
Algebra, Gym I hated both... Algebra - my teacher was a lunatic, and screamed and danced and did everything but teach us anything.... Gym class, yep you end up with a coach that could careless about teaching this class, we either walked the track or sat our butts in the gym on the bleachers, it was a waste of time, lucky for me I got a gig as a teacher and/ or office assistant...I learned quite a bit of office skills, as well as about office and school gossip...

I think that we have dropped classes that should be a requirement... such as driver education, basic home economic's how to create a budget, savings, grocery shopping, sewing, cooking, simple repairs changing a tire, checking tire pressure, checking the oil and so on., and a basic life skills classes how to create a resume, fill out a application, interview skills, ...American history, World history, Geography and Government... The art departments are being cut, why on earth would you cut the arts out...their are more students in band, choral, concert bands, dance, drawing, painting, strings, marching band than in football and sports, but yet all the money goes there, why... there should be a fair distribution of funds...
 
I think perhaps the question should be what subjects should be electives rather than mandatory, especially once you get to high school. For me, that would be gym. I was unable to take physics as a senior because my state (NY) required 4 years of gym in high school and they couldn't fit it into my schedule any other time. That is totally ridiculous considering they only required 2 years of math and science and 3 years of history. Gym should be a one semester requirement, same as general music or general art. After that, it should be an elective. I noted a PP said it is underrated because of the obesity in this country but I can tell you from experience that obesity is driven 90% by what you eat and only 10% by your activity. Also, when I had gym class, we did things like gymnastics and volleyball. For those, we spent a lot of the gym class period waiting our turn rather than actually doing anything. High school, IMHO, should prepare kids for life as an adult especially since many can't or don't want to go on to college. Knowing how to read a lease, understand insurance, file a tax return, prepare a healthful meal, the costs of carrying debt and other practical things should be skills every child leaves high school with.
 
I am so surprised people think science and math are overrated. In today’s world they seem to be the most critical. Health and technology are what moves us towards the future. I understand if people don’t like those subjects, but I don’t think they are over rated.

I would, however, agree with PE as it stands today. Give kids more recess time instead of wasting time during the day waiting in lines to choose teams, walk out to a field, change clothes, etc. for what amounts to less than 10 min of actual activity. I do think physical activity is extremely important, but the way gym classes are conducted, they are definitely overrated. I worked in schools for many years and this is the one class that I believe could be cut from a curriculum based on how it is taught. In theory, Phys. Ed. is important, but in practice it is severely lacking.
 
I teach elementary and early childhood math methods courses so am partial to math. I also completely understand that many people do not see the need for subjects like Calc or Algebra and felt the same way at one time. We do use algebraic concepts in our everyday lives and when I finally had a teacher help make that connection for me, it made a difference. We have to see the usefulness in what we do and learn or it is meaningless.

The course I think would be the most useful to me would have been more financial literacy in high school. My mom tried to teach me but I did not listen to her and was quite clueless when I entered college and got myself into debt. I crawled out of it but wish I had known more at the outset.
 
The course I think would be the most useful to me would have been more financial literacy in high school. My mom tried to teach me but I did not listen to her and was quite clueless when I entered college and got myself into debt. I crawled out of it but wish I had known more at the outset.
You speak the truth. It is hard enough to deal with unexpected medical expenses that you can't control. But sooooooo many people's financial woes are self inflicted.
 












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