DCL on local news

[CyndiLouWho]

She can just say 33.

Some airlines restrict at 28 weeks, some at 36, some not at all. But why endanger your baby and lie if the dr says no.

 

[JW9DVC]

Some airlines restrict at 28 weeks, some at 36, some not at all. But why endanger your baby and lie if the dr says no.

Because they always have a doctor that says yes.

 

[griffindesign]

Depending on the port you disembarked at, the majority of the ports the governmental authority of the ports is with Customs and Immigration control, and in some cases TSA. Those people are ALL staffed by the port authority and the cruise lines have no input on what they do or where they go with in the port facility, is it is the Port of Entry to the United States and they have total control of all passengers disembarking. Granted the Customs Officer or who ever he was went overboard yelling and threatening to lock you up. But it's not surprising they have a hair trigger for confrontations, or for any difficult passengers (not that I'm saying you or the other person was difficult). Sometimes you just have to go with the flow, if the person is truly who they say they are and are dealing with lost identification there are many means electronically to verify someone's ID and process then back into the country. I am sure they've dealt with lost ID's in the past at ports of entry and have solutions in place to remedy any complications.

It was disembarking the dream in Port Canaveral. I’m definitely glad they have a procedure for dealing with difficult/dangerous people. We are both non threatening looking women, and we just came off of a cruise that we got on with proper credentials. Dcl acted like it was no big deal and had happened before. But the port authority guy acted like we were waving guns at him or something just because I asked if she was ok. I realize that he is not tied to Disney, and in our situation Disney has no knowledge That it happened since we were already off the ship. The family in the news article is acting like Disney had them bring out the men with guns, and I can see that the port authority people don’t need much to be set off. (Again tsa handled it very professionally and kindly, even though they have more to fear with Airport bombers entering, as opposed to cruisers disembarking after being scanned every time getting off and on ship.)
I do think Disney seemed to have handle things the best they could since the woman clearly knew there was an issue with being past 24 weeks. It was a good gesture that they refunded the family’s money. When she openly says she is past 24 weeks, she can’t expect them to break their own rule.

 

[cgolf]

I have to admit I watched their video and it looks heavily edited to make DCL and the port authority to look bad, not sure if they deserve that look or not. Unfortunately there are always two sides to every story, and we will never here DCLs.

The comments were very anti Disney and when I looked for the update they said they were going to post, I was amazed at what people put out there now, for all to see, house tour. If Disney did compensate them beyond the refund, there may be no follow up video, and this one may get deleted.

 

[Pens Fan]

My son was born prematurely at just about 34 weeks and we had no clue it was going to happen.
I would not advise someone to fib about this.
Yes chances are nothing bad will happen. But even a healthy pregnancy can end up in danger out of nowhere.

Without going into the gory details, I will just say this. You think everything is going great in a pregnancy until it doesn't. Our wonderful, amazing 20 year old son is here today because I had an incredible OB that figured out what was happening long before your average OB would have. She had a standard of care that far exceeded others due to her own history of premature labor.

Folks - don't fudge this stuff. A cruise isn't worth it!!

 

[disneycruise100]

The rules are clearly posted on the website. And you could tell she knew it was a rule because she got a doctors note clearing it.

She needs to be grateful she even got a refund. Disney definitely didn't have to do that.

 

[Ravenne]

I have to admit I watched their video and it looks heavily edited to make DCL and the port authority to look bad, not sure if they deserve that look or not. Unfortunately there are always two sides to every story, and we will never here DCLs.

The comments were very anti Disney and when I looked for the update they said they were going to post, I was amazed at what people put out there now, for all to see, house tour. If Disney did compensate them beyond the refund, there may be no follow up video, and this one may get deleted.

The fun stuff is in the aforementioned article's FB. The woman's brother went on there to argue that she was only 23 weeks when they tried to board. Then someone posted a screenshot of her vlog on 3/25 stating she's 24 weeks. I won't give her YouTube channel a view though.

 

[Billinaz]

That TV station was clearly trying to make this more of a story than it was.

First, how can she have already boarded and then waited for room key? She would not have gotten onboard without the KTTW card.

Second lets not make this silly "armed guard" with "a gun" into more than it was. It was a police officer, and in case you haven't figured it out, they are all armed.

She said that it was like the entire family could not cruise because of her. Well, no. The could have cruised, just you who ignored the rule that you agreed to, and violated, could not cruise. Stop trying to blame anyone but yourself. The TV station was just as guilty for not making it clearer. She knew the rule about 24 weeks, she agreed to it, and then tried to get away with violating it.

 

[mevelandry]

*EDIT*

 

[lorimay]

As I now know a pregnancy can change in a minute.
My daughter in law was diagnosed at 29 weeks with pre-eclampsia on a Tuesday and had an emergency c-section on Friday. She is a perfectly healthy 25 yr old woman and bam just like that, baby needed to come out immediately. The scariest time of all of our lives. Thank God he is now a hefty 4 pounds 10 ounces and home doing well after spending 6 weeks in the NICU.

I applaud Airlines and cruise lines taking these precautions!

 

[hcox31]

yeah something isn't right here. My guess is she thought she could be the exception the rule cause she had a doctor's note.

 

[arlopop]

Strange how it said the “family was barred.” Seems to me only the expectant mother was barred; the family would have been welcome to cruise. I’m not implying that was practical, but it was their choice and DCL wasn’t preventing them. It’s also curious that she bothered to get a note from the doctor. Why would she do that if she didn’t think there might be questions regarding her being pregnant. If one is getting a note, one should be checking policies.

It’s particularly unfortunate for everyone else, but the fault lies with her. At the very least there were a large number of family and you’d think one of them would have asked at some point, “Hey, is there a policy about cruising and pregnancies?”

Just don’t know how this - any of it - sits in DCL’s lap. And I can be very critical of DCL. They screw up, but this isn’t theirs.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Strange how it said the “family was barred.” Seems to me only the expectant mother was barred; the family would have been welcome to cruise. I’m not implying that was practical, but it was their choice and DCL wasn’t preventing them. It’s also curious that she bothered to get a note from the doctor. Why would she do that if she didn’t think there might be questions regarding her being pregnant. If one is getting a note, one should be checking policies.

It’s particularly unfortunate for everyone else, but the fault lies with here. At the very least there were a large number of family and you’d think one of them would have asked at some point, “Hey, is there a policy about cruising and pregnancies?”

Just don’t know how this - any of it - sits in DCL’s lap. And I can be very critical of DCL. They screw up, but this isn’t theirs.

And, yet, they apparently refunded the cruise fare. I don't think that's right...

Yes, she knew, or SOMEONE knew. As noted, it's in the contract you agree to when you make the reservation. Yes, most people don't bother to read the whole thing, but, during the online checkin process there's a specific "Is anyone one in the party 24 weeks pregnant at time of cruise" question that must be answered.

And, yes, the rest of the family could have cruised. Not sure, but I think I read that the rest of the group started being uncooperative and that's when security was called in to escort them out.

 

[arlopop]

My son was born prematurely at just about 34 weeks and we had no clue it was going to happen.
I would not advise someone to fib about this.
Yes chances are nothing bad will happen. But even a healthy pregnancy can end up in danger out of nowhere.

Right with you. With my son, at 34 weeks, my wife’s water broke, at dinner, in a restaurant, in a booth. Total surprise, and he spent a a scary week in the NICU nearly dying of a strep infection in his lungs.

4 years later we booked a (non-refundable) vacation and then found out we were expecting. We immediately counted the weeks along she’d be for the trip, and then checked with the airline and doctor to be certain they were fine with her flying at 24 weeks. Nonetheless, that whole trip I was anxious. And we weren’t at sea; we were in Hawaii, with, you know, actual hospitals.

I can’t imagine thinking of a cruise at that point, but it’s unfathomable to me that someone wouldn’t bother to check the policy.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

A lot of the "how many weeks!" stuff is guesswork based on size and guesses against LMP. I wouldn't take any particular EDD as gospel.

That said, she clearly read the rules and thought she was a special snowflake.

 

[slindamood]

The last few times we have sailed the "Is anyone pregnant" question was not on the health form although it clearly still is in the contract. Everyone is responsible for reading the contract and abiding by it, so the extra form was unnecessary.

Corrected: See Pirincess Shmoo below. The questions are in the online check-in, or the paper check in form contained in document pack if online had not been done. DCL asks both about pregnancy and the number of weeks.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

The last few times we have sailed the "Is anyone pregnant" question was not on the health form although it clearly still is in the contract. Everyone is responsible for reading the contract and abiding by it, so the extra form was unnecessary. My DD has sailed pregnant and, even though not required, has taken a doctor's note stating number of weeks along and in good health. We expected the old health form question but it was no longer there and no one inquired about possibility of pregnancy.

It's not on the health form you fill out in the terminal, it's part of the online check in process.

 

[slindamood]

It's not on the health form you fill out in the terminal, it's part of the online check in process.

You are right - I found it on the embark-departure form that we did online. Asks if anyone pregnant and if so, how many weeks.

It used to be on the health form. Probably years ago before online check in.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

If it is still there on the online form (and it used to be on the health form) we missed it. I helped her check in online and we commented that there seemed to be no specific question. Still, having it in the contract is sufficient notice for DCL and I am sure that she signed to abide by the contract.

This is the health form being used when we first started traveling:


And the one being used now:

 

[Bonnie1222]

I've never had kids so I honestly don't know the answer to this. Is this a normal thing to get a note when you want to travel and your pregnant?