Brazilian Tour Groups

[atp]

As a matter of fact most do speak several languages pretty fluently. I have some neighbors who are Brazillian. The husband came from a fairly poor background, but he speaks English, Portuguese and Spanish both fluently and has since he was a small child. His wife came from a more affluent background and was actually part of a Brazillian tour group to WDW once. She says she has always been fluent in English, Portuguese, Spanish, and German. She comes from the southern part of Brazil (forgot exactly where). I've spoken to them about the groups in WDW and she laughs and says she hates to admit to once being part of such a group. She says her group was one of the ones that acted really bad at WDW and admits to pulling the "No English" routine more than once when someone got onto them for something. She says they knew they were acting bad, but just didn't care. For alot of them it was the first time they'd been away from momma and papa and they knew the chaperone wouldn't tell on them, because if he did he'd lose customers for his next tour. His only job was to keep them happy, not to tell them what to do. He did not want to do anything to make a kid complain to the parents, so let them do exactly what they wanted, while they treated him like a slave.

That would be the exception, not the rule. If your neighboor came from a poor background, what is considered poor here, he went to public school. There, you are lucky if you learn portuguese, let alone english and spanish. If your neighboor speaks those languages since he was a child, he must have been very lucky to be able to afford a really nice private school in spite of being poor or he had very smart parents of family members who raised him bilingual or something.

Even though I have always gone to nice private schools, none taught Spanish before 3rd grade or so. Only one taught it at all and neither taught it well enough for you to be fluent. Not even close. It's like what you have in American public schools, if not worse. Same with English. Most people here are not fluent in any language. Some know a lot of english, but a lot of those can't have an intelligent conversation with you in english and likely won't understand you if you speak fast. Or even you speak very slowly. Not what I would call fluent.

 

[KellyNY]

Some teenagers do know how to behave, but a lot of them don't realize how they should behave in a theme park and don't realize that their behavior is disruptive.

Come to think of it, many adults don't either, no matter the nationality.

It sucks that you were stuck in that situation. I'm sorry Disney did nothing to help you. I'd be calling the cops on those kids if Disney was unwilling to help. Aren't there laws about noise after a certain time in the US? Because here, after 10pm you cannot be loud like you describe. It's crazy that they would think it's okay in the US, in a hotel no less. It's even crazier that no one stopped them. No wonder they keep acting like that, Disney pretty much encourages them do do so.

I really doubt they do not know that if there is a line, any line, to ride or to order food, you join at the end, or if people open door to exit, do not push in, let them out, they do not hold door for you, or if you block some entrance, move if someone approaching. Those are every day basics, not only for parks. I do not know if they are told to act this way to move around faster but this is plain crazy, no wonder they get reputation. You are right families do act like this from time to time as well, but with tour groups misbehaivor is more concentrated.
I am sure there are laws and as one of posters on another thread posted she complained to CM(who wants to call police on vacation). She was told they are our guests, great and who we are then? Disney gets a lot of money from them so they act like nothing happens, crazy.

 

[atp]

I really doubt they do not know that if there is a line, any line, to ride or to order food, you join at the end, or if people open door to exit, do not push in, let them out, they do not hold door for you, or if you block some entrance, move if someone approaching. Those are every day basics, not only for parks. I do not know if they are told to act this way to move around faster but this is plain crazy, no wonder they get reputation. You are right families do act like this from time to time as well, but with tour groups misbehaivor is more concentrated.
I am sure there are laws and as one of posters on another thread posted she complained to CM(who wants to call police on vacation). She was told they are our guests, great and who we are then? Disney gets a lot of money from them so they act like nothing happens, crazy.

About the lines I agree with you, everyone knows that. Sadly, a lot of people here don't respect lines, but they do know. Some people cut in line here like it's nothing, it varies from place to place. Some are more organized and some have people who are more polite and respectful.

Anyway, I agree that this shouldn't happen and Disney should do something. As for you comment, who wants to call the police vacation...who wants to deal with what you described during your entire vacation? I rather call the police. And would do so if Disney did nothing and talking to them didn't help. Maybe if more people did that they would learn their lesson.

I think they take advantage of the fact they since they outnumber people, it's easy to get away with almost anything...cutting in line, being loud. It's harder to stop a large group, and since no one even tries, it makes it even easier for the rude, clueless guests to act like they do.

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

The one thing I have always wondered about the brazilion tour groups is WHY they all want to stay in one massive group?! Surely they don't ALL want to do the same exact thing. Some people might like thrill rides, while others enjoy the shows, etc. I would absolutely HATE being in a huge group like that ALL day without having some kind of say in what I'm doing. I would never want to be told that 12:00 is lunchtime, bathroom breaks are at 11:00 and 3:00, etc. I like casual touring.
Nothing about being in that large of a group appeals to me.

 

[KellyNY]

About the lines I agree with you, everyone knows that. Sadly, a lot of people here don't respect lines, but they do know. Some people cut in line here like it's nothing, it varies from place to place. Some are more organized and some have people who are more polite and respectful.

Anyway, I agree that this shouldn't happen and Disney should do something. As for you comment, who wants to call the police vacation...who wants to deal with what you described during your entire vacation? I rather call the police. And would do so if Disney did nothing and talking to them didn't help. Maybe if more people did that they would learn their lesson.

I think they take advantage of the fact they since they outnumber people, it's easy to get away with almost anything...cutting in line, being loud. It's harder to stop a large group, and since no one even tries, it makes it even easier for the rude, clueless guests to act like they do.

But it is not guests' or even police responsibility to regulate those groups.Technically it is police business but police has more important things to do then calming teens in Disney, imo. People do complain to Disney and nothing happens. I heard Disney now hiring special CMs do deal with them, we will see maybe something will change, all I can say, never again in July, I am back to my May and August/September schedule.

 

[aznshents]

I really doubt they do not know that if there is a line, any line, to ride or to order food, you join at the end, or if people open door to exit, do not push in, let them out, they do not hold door for you, or if you block some entrance, move if someone approaching. Those are every day basics, not only for parks. I do not know if they are told to act this way to move around faster but this is plain crazy, no wonder they get reputation. You are right families do act like this from time to time as well, but with tour groups misbehaivor is more concentrated.
I am sure there are laws and as one of posters on another thread posted she complained to CM(who wants to call police on vacation). She was told they are our guests, great and who we are then? Disney gets a lot of money from them so they act like nothing happens, crazy.

I am sure they know that is the proper thing to do.

But what someone knows to be the right thing and what they actually do can be two completely very different things. They may know what the right, nice thing to do is, but wanting to do it is a different thing. And when you are surrounded by boisterous kids who are the same age as you and all energetic and rowdy and in a completely different foreign country with the only purpose being fun, it is easier for teenagers to forget their manners that they may otherwise have learned. And because the people overseeing them often don't move to correct their behavior (for several different reasons), they begin to think they can get away with doing it. And then they get away with doing more. And then eventually, some groups will be at the point of pushing past people in line, being loud and rowdy and caught up in the moment.

Am I supportive of what these guys do? Absolutely not. As a CM in Disney (and one who used to work on Main Street a lot) there's a grim look on my face every time I see a Brazilian tour group. My statements are that while some kids may be almost angels in a proper family setting, the kids can often act different around a whole enormous group of similarly boisterous friends in a place designed for fun.

 

[LucyBC80]

Brazilian here!

About the language thing... Spanish and Portuguese are really nothing alike. Not grammatically and specially not spoken. Might sound similar to an American speaker, but for a Brazilian it's easier to understand someone speaking English than someone speaking Spanish. Manly because Brazilians don't like to be associated with other Latin Americans, most make no effort to learn Castellaño/Spanish.

Spanish is NOT taught in public schools. They teach the basic of English and that's it. In some private schools Spanish is offered but not enforced while English is mandatory up to their senior year. But everyone who is a fluent speaker either went to a Language School where they teach exclusively English (grammar, phonetics, reading/writing and speaking) or spent time abroad.

I have a HUGE dislike for the tour groups. I don't see why they can't break those groups into smaller ones. Might not help while they are at the resort but it sure would help when they are at the parks. More adults chaperoning the groups would also be good.

I don't think Brazilians Tour Groups are all from Brazil tough. It has become a more generalized name for huge groups originating from South America. Around 60% of those really are from Brazil but you always see some from Argentina, Uruguay and Mexico.