scottishclover
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INTRODUCTION
To start off, an explanation of the title. It really is one cheapskate (DH) whose ways after 20 years of marriage are rubbing off on myself and our 2 daughters. How can you be a cheapskate and be on a Disney Cruise, I hear you say? Well, believe me, that is DH's argument too! Let's just say, he hates not getting value for money and loves a good moan about the price of things. I should add that we are not "Disney Rich", which is our family's term for everyone who can afford to sail concierge, but we do like to spend a lot of our disposable income on travel. DH and I have the policy of trying to give our girls as many experiences as we can, when we can afford it, as you never know how their lives will turn out. Anyway, I am hoping to make this trip report a little different from the others by offering ways to keep costs down, while still having a great trip.
Some background on us: I am a part-time Primary (Elementary) teacher and my husband is an investment analyst. We are both in our mid 40s. We have 2 daughters who are 16 and 14. Now, had I been writing this a few years ago, I would have referred to them as DD1 and DD 2. My terminology now is MT1 and MT2 (moody teens!!) . Spoiler alert: They were very much DDs on our Vancouver and Alaska trip. The eagle-eyed amongst you may already have noticed that we are not American. We live half an hour south of Edinburgh, Scotland. This is important as I might use some different phrasing ( we could relate to Jo on the Wonder) and also to let people know that most people in Scotland do not even know Disney does cruises, never mind been on one. We only know one other family who have cruised with Disney and that is a work colleague of DH, who happens to be American.
Enjoying the sun in Vancouver before our cruise
How did we get to know about Disney Cruises? Well like quite a few families over here, we did a trip to WDW in 2014. DH had not long been diagnosed with Coeliac disease and we were super impressed by the way it was handled in the park restaurants. Holidays (vacations) can be challenging for us food wise, because of DH's intolerance so we thought maybe DCL would be just as convenient as WDW. We went on our first Disney cruise to Norway on the Magic in July 2016 and were hooked. There followed a 5 day to Bahamas and Key West (again on the Magic) in April 2017, and then the Alaska Cruise, which was really a year and a half in the making.
Main Street USA, WDW , October 2014
Alesund with Disney Magic in background, summer 2016
Castaway Cay 5k , April 2017
Ahoy there, shipmates! Pirate Night on Disney Magic, April 2017
Another important thing to note - we are outdoorsy people who normally travel very independently. Our holiday of choice is hiking in the Austrian Alps and recently, as our girls are growing up, we have started to do a few city breaks. (Of course, it is pretty easy for us to nip over to Europe for the weekend.) So 6 nights in Vancouver, followed by Alaska seemed spot on for us. It was also our 20th wedding anniversary while we were away, which is probably how I talked my husband into splashing so much cash!
PLANNING
We booked this cruise around 580 days out (acc. to the app) so I had plenty of time to plan. How did we plan to keep the cost down?
1) Cheap flights - We booked direct flights with Air Transat from Glasgow as soon as they were released. They were a thousand pounds cheaper than any other airline and we didn't have to go via London. This ultimately backfired, more on that later.
2) We did the Vancouver part of the trip mostly on the cheap, which brought down the average daily cost of our holiday as a whole. This has been a really successful strategy in the past for us too. We had a cheap week in the South of Sweden before our Norway cruise and a week in Lauderdale-by-the -Sea after our Key West Cruise. We stay in Airbnb's and do a lot of our own cooking. I got a great price on an Airbnb in North Vancouver and it turned out to be perfect for us.
3) We always book a standard inside room. I can't justify paying more for an ocean view or a balcony, when we are never in our stateroom, other than to sleep. Now our girls are older, I can see how a Deluxe Inside with split bath would be better, but in all honesty we manage fine.
4) I knew Alaska Excursions were pricey, so this was an area that took a lot of consideration. We normally do one big excursion per cruise ( for big, read expensive) and the rest of the time DIY it. This time was no different. Our rough plans were:
Skagway - rent a car through AVIS and drive the South Klondike Highway to Emerald Lake and back. We could have taken the train but the car was a much cheaper and IMO better option.
Juneau - combo whale watching and Mendenhall Glacier tour, which I booked outside of Disney before Christmas and got a 15% discount - score!
Ketchikan - stroll around town and then hiked up Deer Mountain - total spend zero.
So those were the plans, now onto the actual trip report. I am going to go into the Vancouver part in some detail as it played a huge part in the overall enjoyment of our holiday. Everyone who flies into Vancouver the night before and doesn't explore the city is really missing a trick. We loved it!
Just to let you know I plan to rattle out this trip report quite quickly. I haven't included too many pics of the ship, food etc. as other people with much better cameras, have done that already. Instead I have concentrated on our activities and experiences, which I hope people find useful to help with their own planning.
EDINBURGH TO VANCOUVER
Booking early doesn't always pay off as we found out to our cost - both metaphorically and in real terms! To cut a long story short, our direct flight from Glasgow got cancelled with the alternative of leaving on a different day, a very long layover in Toronto and arriving in Vancouver late at night. So in the end we flew Air Transat from London Gatwick but had the added cost of flights down and up and a hotel stay the night before. It wasn't ideal, but we made the best of it. However it added around £500 to our holiday before we had even left the country! Other than the hiccup with the booking, the Air Transat flight was great. I had read some terrible online reviews but I would have no hesitation in flying with them again.
VANCOUVER - DAY 1
With the time change (8 hours behind) we arrived in Vancouver at 11.30 am to huge queues at customs and immigration. Believe all the horror stories you read. In fact, it took us so long to get through, our luggage had actually been taken off the carousel!
After that we felt we could do with a wee seat before heading off, so we headed to Tim Horton's for something to eat... Well, when in Rome. Then it was off to hunt for the 7-11 to buy compass Cards for the public transport. You have to go to an outlet to buy concession Compass Cards, but as far as I am aware you can get Adult compass Cards at the vending machines. We then loaded these up and headed off on the Skytrain to Waterfront, then Seabus across the water to Lonsdale Quay on the North Shore, and then bus up Lonsdale Avenue to the nearest bus stop to our accommodation. Would it have been easier to get a taxi to our Airbnb? Of course, but public transport was a lot cheaper and really easy to use. We always use public transport when we travel - I think you need to try and offset your carbon footprint from the flight anyway you can. Getting a compass card was super convenient. We just loaded on credit and tapped in and out. No need to be fiddling about with change on the buses. If you are planning on using the public transport ( sorry transit!) system in Vancouver there are some helpful videos on YouTube, which I would recommend watching.
After we settled into our basement suite (hosted by Sarah and Mike and clean and modern in North Vancouver , if you are looking), we headed off to the supermarket to get some food in. The nearest one was Whole Foods - enter a ranting DH. The prices were unbelievable, triple what we would pay in the UK, although they did had nice GF selection, which appeased him somewhat. MT1 and MT2 thought they were so cool shopping in Whole Foods but I found a Loblaw's City Market the next day in the vicinity, so that was our one and only visit, much to the relief of DH. Although it was only 8pm Vancouver time , our body clocks were telling us it was 4am UK time, so we eventually gave in and headed to bed.
A short word about our Airbnb. For anyone wanting to stay in North Vancouver it is a great choice. Centrally located for lots of different bus routes, 25mins walk from Lonsdale Quay and the sea bus, and in a safe, upmarket area. There were a lot of little extras included, it had great eco credentials and I paid less for 6 nights than would I would have paid for 2 nights in an average hotel downtown. No joke, I looked at the price of Downtown Vancouver Hotels when I was planning the trip and nearly had a heart attack. And that was room only!!! It was a no-brainer for us, and I would stay there again if we ever go back to Vancouver. We have stayed in quite a few lovely Airbnb in the last couple of years and this one was right up there. I would really consider it instead of staying in one of the chain hotels downtown.
To start off, an explanation of the title. It really is one cheapskate (DH) whose ways after 20 years of marriage are rubbing off on myself and our 2 daughters. How can you be a cheapskate and be on a Disney Cruise, I hear you say? Well, believe me, that is DH's argument too! Let's just say, he hates not getting value for money and loves a good moan about the price of things. I should add that we are not "Disney Rich", which is our family's term for everyone who can afford to sail concierge, but we do like to spend a lot of our disposable income on travel. DH and I have the policy of trying to give our girls as many experiences as we can, when we can afford it, as you never know how their lives will turn out. Anyway, I am hoping to make this trip report a little different from the others by offering ways to keep costs down, while still having a great trip.
Some background on us: I am a part-time Primary (Elementary) teacher and my husband is an investment analyst. We are both in our mid 40s. We have 2 daughters who are 16 and 14. Now, had I been writing this a few years ago, I would have referred to them as DD1 and DD 2. My terminology now is MT1 and MT2 (moody teens!!) . Spoiler alert: They were very much DDs on our Vancouver and Alaska trip. The eagle-eyed amongst you may already have noticed that we are not American. We live half an hour south of Edinburgh, Scotland. This is important as I might use some different phrasing ( we could relate to Jo on the Wonder) and also to let people know that most people in Scotland do not even know Disney does cruises, never mind been on one. We only know one other family who have cruised with Disney and that is a work colleague of DH, who happens to be American.
Enjoying the sun in Vancouver before our cruise
How did we get to know about Disney Cruises? Well like quite a few families over here, we did a trip to WDW in 2014. DH had not long been diagnosed with Coeliac disease and we were super impressed by the way it was handled in the park restaurants. Holidays (vacations) can be challenging for us food wise, because of DH's intolerance so we thought maybe DCL would be just as convenient as WDW. We went on our first Disney cruise to Norway on the Magic in July 2016 and were hooked. There followed a 5 day to Bahamas and Key West (again on the Magic) in April 2017, and then the Alaska Cruise, which was really a year and a half in the making.
Main Street USA, WDW , October 2014
Alesund with Disney Magic in background, summer 2016
Castaway Cay 5k , April 2017
Ahoy there, shipmates! Pirate Night on Disney Magic, April 2017
Another important thing to note - we are outdoorsy people who normally travel very independently. Our holiday of choice is hiking in the Austrian Alps and recently, as our girls are growing up, we have started to do a few city breaks. (Of course, it is pretty easy for us to nip over to Europe for the weekend.) So 6 nights in Vancouver, followed by Alaska seemed spot on for us. It was also our 20th wedding anniversary while we were away, which is probably how I talked my husband into splashing so much cash!
PLANNING
We booked this cruise around 580 days out (acc. to the app) so I had plenty of time to plan. How did we plan to keep the cost down?
1) Cheap flights - We booked direct flights with Air Transat from Glasgow as soon as they were released. They were a thousand pounds cheaper than any other airline and we didn't have to go via London. This ultimately backfired, more on that later.
2) We did the Vancouver part of the trip mostly on the cheap, which brought down the average daily cost of our holiday as a whole. This has been a really successful strategy in the past for us too. We had a cheap week in the South of Sweden before our Norway cruise and a week in Lauderdale-by-the -Sea after our Key West Cruise. We stay in Airbnb's and do a lot of our own cooking. I got a great price on an Airbnb in North Vancouver and it turned out to be perfect for us.
3) We always book a standard inside room. I can't justify paying more for an ocean view or a balcony, when we are never in our stateroom, other than to sleep. Now our girls are older, I can see how a Deluxe Inside with split bath would be better, but in all honesty we manage fine.
4) I knew Alaska Excursions were pricey, so this was an area that took a lot of consideration. We normally do one big excursion per cruise ( for big, read expensive) and the rest of the time DIY it. This time was no different. Our rough plans were:
Skagway - rent a car through AVIS and drive the South Klondike Highway to Emerald Lake and back. We could have taken the train but the car was a much cheaper and IMO better option.
Juneau - combo whale watching and Mendenhall Glacier tour, which I booked outside of Disney before Christmas and got a 15% discount - score!
Ketchikan - stroll around town and then hiked up Deer Mountain - total spend zero.
So those were the plans, now onto the actual trip report. I am going to go into the Vancouver part in some detail as it played a huge part in the overall enjoyment of our holiday. Everyone who flies into Vancouver the night before and doesn't explore the city is really missing a trick. We loved it!
Just to let you know I plan to rattle out this trip report quite quickly. I haven't included too many pics of the ship, food etc. as other people with much better cameras, have done that already. Instead I have concentrated on our activities and experiences, which I hope people find useful to help with their own planning.
EDINBURGH TO VANCOUVER
Booking early doesn't always pay off as we found out to our cost - both metaphorically and in real terms! To cut a long story short, our direct flight from Glasgow got cancelled with the alternative of leaving on a different day, a very long layover in Toronto and arriving in Vancouver late at night. So in the end we flew Air Transat from London Gatwick but had the added cost of flights down and up and a hotel stay the night before. It wasn't ideal, but we made the best of it. However it added around £500 to our holiday before we had even left the country! Other than the hiccup with the booking, the Air Transat flight was great. I had read some terrible online reviews but I would have no hesitation in flying with them again.
VANCOUVER - DAY 1
With the time change (8 hours behind) we arrived in Vancouver at 11.30 am to huge queues at customs and immigration. Believe all the horror stories you read. In fact, it took us so long to get through, our luggage had actually been taken off the carousel!
After that we felt we could do with a wee seat before heading off, so we headed to Tim Horton's for something to eat... Well, when in Rome. Then it was off to hunt for the 7-11 to buy compass Cards for the public transport. You have to go to an outlet to buy concession Compass Cards, but as far as I am aware you can get Adult compass Cards at the vending machines. We then loaded these up and headed off on the Skytrain to Waterfront, then Seabus across the water to Lonsdale Quay on the North Shore, and then bus up Lonsdale Avenue to the nearest bus stop to our accommodation. Would it have been easier to get a taxi to our Airbnb? Of course, but public transport was a lot cheaper and really easy to use. We always use public transport when we travel - I think you need to try and offset your carbon footprint from the flight anyway you can. Getting a compass card was super convenient. We just loaded on credit and tapped in and out. No need to be fiddling about with change on the buses. If you are planning on using the public transport ( sorry transit!) system in Vancouver there are some helpful videos on YouTube, which I would recommend watching.
After we settled into our basement suite (hosted by Sarah and Mike and clean and modern in North Vancouver , if you are looking), we headed off to the supermarket to get some food in. The nearest one was Whole Foods - enter a ranting DH. The prices were unbelievable, triple what we would pay in the UK, although they did had nice GF selection, which appeased him somewhat. MT1 and MT2 thought they were so cool shopping in Whole Foods but I found a Loblaw's City Market the next day in the vicinity, so that was our one and only visit, much to the relief of DH. Although it was only 8pm Vancouver time , our body clocks were telling us it was 4am UK time, so we eventually gave in and headed to bed.
A short word about our Airbnb. For anyone wanting to stay in North Vancouver it is a great choice. Centrally located for lots of different bus routes, 25mins walk from Lonsdale Quay and the sea bus, and in a safe, upmarket area. There were a lot of little extras included, it had great eco credentials and I paid less for 6 nights than would I would have paid for 2 nights in an average hotel downtown. No joke, I looked at the price of Downtown Vancouver Hotels when I was planning the trip and nearly had a heart attack. And that was room only!!! It was a no-brainer for us, and I would stay there again if we ever go back to Vancouver. We have stayed in quite a few lovely Airbnb in the last couple of years and this one was right up there. I would really consider it instead of staying in one of the chain hotels downtown.