Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[DGsAtBLT]

Make it a version of MaxPass. No need for month's of planning

For you maybe.

From Disney’s perspective, people are buying park tickets 30-60+ days out. They’re seeing how cost effective it is to add on more Disney days in front of their computer at home instead of choosing to go somewhere else while down in Orlando. They’re telling Disney when and where they’re probably going to be ahead of time.

 

[Mit88]

They aren’t going to allow them to buy tickets and the probably captured who had tickets before any announcement was made about reopening. That will eliminate the workaround of buying third party tickets now. They want people to cancel so they get below their capacity number. They need room occupancy below 50%, probably closer to 40%.

But it also continues the logjam of DVC points. What you’re saying is probably 100% right. But not every DVC member gets tickets before their trip. My friend just became a DVC member and was going to get an AP during his and his wife’s trip. He has a late August reservation and now thinks hes going to have to cancel his trip, bank his 200 points and hope he can get the time off to use them all next year

 

[Farro]

I think at first it will be resort guests w/out tickets that are the most burned by this - cancelled and asked to reschedule.

Eventually though I hope it's resort guests that start to get the most perks - able to reserve first, etc.

 

[Yinn]

Gosh I hope the future doesn’t include park reservations, dining reservations, and FP reservations (whatever they may look like) all at 60 days. That’s gonna be one stressful morning!

It’ll be a family bonding experience. 2 laptops per person, everyone. On your marks. Stay alert.

Joe, you’re on reservations. Ohana first. DO NOT GET DISTRACTED.

Son, you’re on fast passes. Your sister wants a frozen ride at Epcot god help me if you forget that one.

Sara, I need you to work with your brother for once. Those fast passes are useless if we don’t get into the park. And make sure you respond to your father. I don’t want a be our guest the day we go to Epcot.

Get it together people! Focus focus focus. 10 minutes to open!!

Sorry...too much insight into my life?

 

[HikingFam]

But it also continues the logjam of DVC points. What you’re saying is probably 100% right. But not every DVC member gets tickets before their trip. My friend just became a DVC member and was going to get an AP during his and his wife’s trip. He has a late August reservation and now thinks hes going to have to cancel his trip, bank his 200 points and hope he can get the time off to use them all next year

And then there are people like me, who have DVC rental reservations we can't cancel without losing all our money, and who were waiting until closer to 60 days out to buy tickets. My immediate family has APs, but half our party has no tickets yet. Seems this is possibly the worst position to be in right now.

 

[mhautz]

For you maybe.

From Disney’s perspective, people are buying park tickets 30-60+ days out. They’re seeing how cost effective it is to add on more Disney days in front of their computer at home instead of choosing to go somewhere else while down in Orlando. They’re telling Disney when and where they’re probably going to be ahead of time.

As some of us have learned the hard way, a park ticket is (relatively) non-refundable. Anything that incentivizes advance purchase guarantees attendance, even if it's postponed until a later date.

It also obviously is a money maker as an incentive for onsite stays.

Also, assuming the reservation system is not permanent, FP+ provides quite a bit of information about what guests are going to do and when. That info is important to Disney.

 

[Yinn]

And then there are people like me, who have DVC rental reservations we can't cancel without losing all our money, and who were waiting until closer to 60 days out to buy tickets. My immediate family has APs, but half our party has no tickets yet. Seems this is possibly the worst position to be in right now.

That’s when you post on the boards with a WTB tickets.

There are people with tickets extended that can’t go this year. They’re eligible for transfer still. We had two of these as one of our trips brought the in laws, they’re not coming on our rescheduled trip. How fast you can get them transferred before they lock out...who knows.

 

[chasgoose]

I'm too lazy to go back and sift through all the pages to look, but I'm pretty sure Remy suggested that, like ADRs, Disney intends to bring back FP+, if not immediately. It's all part of whatever systems changes that are part of the new reservations system (that clearly is not just going to be park reservations). I think Disney intends for whatever is put in place for reopening to be comprehensive instead of piecemeal, to the best of their ability. That said, I think he also implied they were having issues with whatever the new FP+ was going to be...

 

[mmackeymouse]

And then there are people like me, who have DVC rental reservations we can't cancel without losing all our money, and who were waiting until closer to 60 days out to buy tickets. My immediate family has APs, but half our party has no tickets yet. Seems this is possibly the worst position to be in right now.

I feel for ya. I'm so sorry.

So here is my situatuon: Our trip starts with 4 days in which we may or may not be on a cruise. We may or may not be able to get WDW resort reservations for those days. We may or may not need 2 or 3 extra days for parks. And whether we do or don't have those extra days will affect how we approach the strategy for the rest of the days. But...we won't know anything until DCL gives us more information.

Our plan was to just wait it out, and add days to our current tickets if need be. But, now, thanks to the park reservation system, we are in a position we have to make that decision right now. If we don't go for extra days, we won't be able to get those reservations IF we need them. If we do go for the extra days, we may end up not needing them, and will spend the extra money for nothing.

 

[HikingFam]

That’s when you post on the boards with a WTB tickets.

There are people with tickets extended that can’t go this year. They’re eligible for transfer still. We had two of these as one of our trips brought the in laws, they’re not coming on our rescheduled trip. How fast you can get them transferred before they lock out...who knows.

Where would I post for WTB tickets? Or would something like UT work still? I honestly had no idea that tickets were transferable.

 

[chicagoshannon]

Disney owns and operates 33,000 hotel rooms on WDW property (this doesn’t include any non-Disney branded hotels) with an average occupancy (pre-pandemic at least; not sure if that changes) of 3 guests. So if every room on property was occupied, that would be just under 100k, but that almost never happens, because Disney generally has at least some rooms out of service for maintenance, renovations, and a few other reasons.

But to put that number in perspective, the max capacity of Mk is generally just below 90k. I can’t remember the speculated capacity of the other parks, but I believe Epcot is around 100k, DHS is significantly smaller, and DAK is somewhere in between DHS and MK.

That's what I was thinking so even if the hotels were at full capacity (which we know they won't be) Every single hotel guest should be able to fit into the parks even at 25% capacity. Hopefully that eases some worries.

 

[Brianstl]

That's what I was thinking so even if the hotels were at full capacity (which we know they won't be) Every single hotel guest should be able to fit into the parks even at 25% capacity. Hopefully that eases some worries.

No they won’t.

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266863337310126082

 

[Yinn]

Where would I post for WTB tickets? Or would something like UT work still? I honestly had no idea that tickets were transferable.

Im honestly not sure. I’m still learning this board myself. Other boards I’m a part of have a for sale or want to buy section. In the past I’ve sold tickets on eBay, Facebook, and other forums I’m a member of.

Here’s a screenshot of my ticket. You’ll see there’s an option to “reassign”. That’s how you transfer it if you need to.

Side note, I just noticed they extended tickets to 2021 instead of Dec 2020. The screenshot ticket originally was to be used during one of the closed days.

 

[disneyfan150]

'Ohana and Cali are gone from my MDE!

 

[Brianstl]

But it also continues the logjam of DVC points. What you’re saying is probably 100% right. But not every DVC member gets tickets before their trip. My friend just became a DVC member and was going to get an AP during his and his wife’s trip. He has a late August reservation and now thinks hes going to have to cancel his trip, bank his 200 points and hope he can get the time off to use them all next year

I actually think they might make an exception for DVC. As you said they have the point logjam and I think they have incentive to make people feel really good about DVC. They have a bunch of Riviera points to sell in an economic downturn. Riviera is one way they can make profits through the parks right now. They want people feeling good and talking up DVC.

 

[Jrb1979]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266863337310126082

So excited they are opening soon. IMO the most anticipated attraction the past year will hopefully be opening soon then.

 

[Mit88]

And then there are people like me, who have DVC rental reservations we can't cancel without losing all our money, and who were waiting until closer to 60 days out to buy tickets. My immediate family has APs, but half our party has no tickets yet. Seems this is possibly the worst position to be in right now.

I want to tell them to buy an AP now, but if they can’t make reservations without first activating the pass, then its pointless. But if they’re trying to get people to cancel to narrow down resort capacity, it makes sense that they’re making these people in situations impossible to get into the parks.

 

[Tjddis]

Actually the outside temperature can impact the way Disney will take your temperature. That is why they have cool down tents at Disney Springs if you fail your first temperature check.

So a few days ago I inquired on this board about the effects of outside temps on the body’s temp and if it will be an issue. Many responded (some less than politely) that the body self regulates (ie sweats) in order to self regulate and keep your body temp consistent. No?
Parents are going to be pumping their kids full of Motrin on the way to the parks just to be safe.
And does it really matter? You can have covid with no fever...but I guess it’s better than rehashing masks

 

[OnceUponATime15]

From KTP.. re capacity

https://www.kennythepirate.com/2020/05/30/analysts-predict-percentages-for-disney-park-capacity/