Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[chasgoose]

In regards to capacity, I believe max capacity is 100K. I believe average attendance is around 65,000.

Like Ryno said on a recent show, if you've been there on an average day, and thought it was pretty crowded....50% capacity isn't much better than that.

I do think/hope their percentages will be based on average capacity and not max capacity.

Yeah, I don't think people realize just how crowded 50% capacity is. That is what most of us would consider a pretty crowded day in any given park. 100% capacity means the maximum number of people (pre-COVID) they could allow in the space of a park without it becoming dangerous for people because of how crowded it is. Imagine Oga's Cantina in SWGE, but throughout the entire park (maybe not quite that bad, but close). That's what 100% capacity is. There's no way Disney is going to open any park at more than 20% capacity, at least until they can see how American visitors handle their social distancing measures.

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

Mk is around 85k
Epcot is around 90k
Hs is around 75k
Ak is around 60k

So, add, times .25... 75k

If 100k+ for resorts is accurate... They're not lying that non-resort annual passholders are going to have a hard time getting in.

As an annual AP holder I’m probably in the minority saying I’m ok with that. These are exceptional times and I’ll do my part to make things go smoother. I can go more once things have calmed down. Disney will still be there for me down the road a bit.

 

[Eric Smith]

You don’t understand why it might be worse to kick out someone with a 2 yr old or baby vs a party of all grown adults?? And is that what we are doing now? If you travel or do anything during a pandemic, you give up your right to be treat like a human being?? It’s worse to kick them out b/c now they’re out potentially spreading it more places. You can get a fever for a million things. Doesn’t mean you have Covid. Ppl have lost their minds & this has all hit a level of hysteria.

I don’t see why it’s worse if it’s a party with kids instead of an all adult party. Both situations would stink.

 

[Eric Smith]

So what is everyone’s speculation regarding capacity? Less than 1/3 like Shanghai? Closer to 50%?

I think it’ll start lower than 25% of normal crowd size. An average day is 65% of capacity so 50% of capacity wouldn’t be much different. I don’t think they’d be putting this park reservation system in if they weren’t drastically cutting capacity initially.

 

[Eric Smith]

I'm confused. Is the ADR system going away? I assumed it was just being reset and made available again.

Correct, it’s not going away. They’re cutting ADRs to 60 days out. I think they’re trying to wipe the slate clean so that they can have the right number of reservations for the reduced restaurant capacity.

 

[Mit88]

Mk is around 85k
Epcot is around 90k
Hs is around 75k
Ak is around 60k

So, add, times .25... 75k

If 100k+ for resorts is accurate... They're not lying that non-resort annual passholders are going to have a hard time getting in.

They’re going to have almost 100% of the rooms booked for reservation without park tickets be cancelled. And its going to be nearly impossible to book them with the reservation period ended. I think resort guests without tickets should be given the opportunity to buy tickets and reserve along with the resort guests with tickets/APs. There are not a lot of people that are going to keep resort reservations that wont be allowed to enter the parks.

 

[andyman8]

To give everyone a few benchmarks of capacity for MK. These are ranges because the exact number usually falls somewhere within that range.

Memorial Day - 65-70k
Fourth of July - 80-85k
Second Week of Sept Weekday - 40-45k
New Year’s Eve - 85k-max (just below 90k)

 

[Quackers600]

People also need to remember capacity isn’t saying a certain amount of people in the park all at once, but throughout the day.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

People also need to remember capacity isn’t saying a certain amount of people in the park all at once, but throughout the day.

Possibly less spread than normal though, with shorter hours and presumably the inability to hop.

 

[Mit88]

To give everyone a few benchmarks of capacity for MK. These are ranges because the exact number usually falls somewhere within that range.

Memorial Day - 65-70k
Fourth of July - 80-85k
Second Week of Sept Weekday - 40-45k
New Year’s Eve - 85k-max (just below 90k)

Which in hindsight is why they chose the date they did is strategically very smart. Even though they wouldnt have admitted that many people. They would have had too much of a demand for that weekend and even though fireworks arent going to be part of the initial phase, people still would have expected them to occur

 

[Brianstl]

They’re going to have almost 100% of the rooms booked for reservation without park tickets be cancelled. And its going to be nearly impossible to book them with the reservation period ended. I think resort guests without tickets should be given the opportunity to buy tickets and reserve along with the resort guests with tickets/APs. There are not a lot of people that are going to keep resort reservations that wont be allowed to enter the parks.

They aren’t going to allow them to buy tickets and the probably captured who had tickets before any announcement was made about reopening. That will eliminate the workaround of buying third party tickets now. They want people to cancel so they get below their capacity number. They need room occupancy below 50%, probably closer to 40%.

 

[LuvDaisy&Minnie]

Gosh I hope the future doesn’t include park reservations, dining reservations, and FP reservations (whatever they may look like) all at 60 days. That’s gonna be one stressful morning!

 

[Jrb1979]

Gosh I hope the future doesn’t include park reservations, dining reservations, and FP reservations (whatever they may look like) all at 60 days. That’s gonna be one stressful morning!

Maybe FP+ will be a thing of the past.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Gosh I hope the future doesn’t include park reservations, dining reservations, and FP reservations (whatever they may look like) all at 60 days. That’s gonna be one stressful morning!

I would be happy with 60 day ADR and 45 FP if they decide to return to FP+ at all.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

They aren’t going to allow them to buy tickets and the probably captured who had tickets before any announcement was made about reopening. That will eliminate the workaround of buying third party tickets now. They want people to cancel so they get below their capacity number. They need room occupancy below 50%, probably closer to 40%.

I don’t disagree but it’s a shame, IMO. I feel bad for those who were totally prepared to go under these circumstances but just hadn’t gotten around to getting tickets yet. Maybe enough people will drop out that those with resort reservations will somehow be able to buy tickets.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I think FP+ comes back, even under a different name, I think we see the concept again though. The planning ahead (under normal circumstances) is both a money maker and a cost saver.

 

[yulilin3]

I think FP+ comes back, even under a different name, I think we see the concept again though. The planning ahead (under normal circumstances) is both a money maker and a cost saver.

under Disney Genie

 

[DGsAtBLT]

under Disney Genie

Do you know how happy I was to be going one last time before Disney Genie would likely hit, with a March 2020 trip?

That worked out well lol.

 

[Jrb1979]

Make it a version of MaxPass. No need for month's of planning

 

[Farro]

I don’t disagree but it’s a shame, IMO. I feel bad for those who were totally prepared to go under these circumstances but just hadn’t gotten around to getting tickets yet. Maybe enough people will drop out that those with resort reservations will somehow be able to buy tickets.

Yeah, that's heartbreaking.