Does a casino patron have the right to tell another not to stand behind them?

[7165red]

I hate it and wish there was something I could do about it.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I hate it and wish there was something I could do about it.

Load and rip baby

 

[manning]

All depends. Wife and I were passing thru Nevada and stopped for the night at small town that had slots. I was on one side of the row and her on the other. There's this guy standing real close behind her trying to pick her up. I asked him (nicely) to step away. He looks at me and says "what's it to you?"

Me: Well for one thing she's my wife"

He left post haste, like faster than fast.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Personally I have deeper issues than that to think about. I don't care who stands behind me.

 

[Pamlur]

Are you talking about machines or table games? When a new table game is introduced, the dealer usually encourages people to stand and watch, to learn how the game works. But since you said standing a way back, then I don't see where asking them to move on would help at all.

 

[DVC-Don]

Depends on how big the person standing behind me is.

 

[NFLDERS]

Are you talking about machines or table games? When a new table game is introduced, the dealer usually encourages people to stand and watch, to learn how the game works. But since you said standing a way back, then I don't see where asking them to move on would help at all.

Machine.

 

[Uncranky Donald]

I'm annoying when I play slots, I yell a lot and get very excited every single time the machine makes a noise, so no one comes anywhere near me and my friends and family pretend not to know me More free daiquiris pleeeaase!!

 

[goofyernmost]

Why wouldn't you have the right to ask people to not stand behind you when you are playing the machines? How do you know they aren't just waiting for you to hit a jackpot and have ideas of how to get it from you. Even without that you have a right to your personal space and having a stranger just stand there and watch you play the machines is quite a long way into VERY WEIRD! Ask them to move along and if they don't get security to make it official, they are watching you every second you are in there and if they know that you, the one that is feeding money into the machines, are feeling uncomfortable... they will help, I can assure you.

 

[wenrob]

Why wouldn't you have the right to ask people to not stand behind you when you are playing the machines? How do you know they aren't just waiting for you to hit a jackpot and have ideas of how to get it from you. Even without that you have a right to your personal space and having a stranger just stand there and watch you place the machines is quite a long way into VERY WEIRD! Ask them to move along and if they don't get security to make it official, they are watching you every second you are in there and if they know that you, the one that is feeding money into the machines, are feeling uncomfortable... they will help, I can assure you.

Security will ask someone to stop hassling you and they'll walk you out to your vehicle if you feel uncomfortable but they're not going to ask someone who is standing back observing to leave. They're not doing anything wrong.

 

[bcla]

Why wouldn't you have the right to ask people to not stand behind you when you are playing the machines? How do you know they aren't just waiting for you to hit a jackpot and have ideas of how to get it from you. Even without that you have a right to your personal space and having a stranger just stand there and watch you place the machines is quite a long way into VERY WEIRD! Ask them to move along and if they don't get security to make it official, they are watching you every second you are in there and if they know that you, the one that is feeding money into the machines, are feeling uncomfortable... they will help, I can assure you.

There are cameras all over the place. Who is really crazy enough? I was actually at a casino in the past few months and at the cashier's cage there was a sign saying that guests could request a security escort to the garage or their hotel room.

 

[fly girl]

My sister and I were sitting beside each other at a blackjack table when this older guy comes right behind us. He had the nerve to put his hand with a cigarette blowing smoke between our chairs. Well my sister and I both look at each other with the WTH look. He then proceeds to put his big fat gut on the back of my chair. Uh yeah buddy, no. I started waving my hands to disperse the smoke as a not so subtle hint. No response. Sister then turns abruptly and says, "do you mind?" and the guy leaves mumbling in a foreign language.

We still have zero clue why he'd do that, but we figure it was because he was a man and we were "lowly subservient women" so he felt he had a right to. Yes, I totally admit I'm judging based on his nationality, but we cannot come up with any other explanation for his behavior. There was open space to the right of me, he could've gone over there to watch.

Welcome to America guy, now move it!

 

[Julie's Haircut]

Why wouldn't you have the right to ask people to not stand behind you when you are playing the machines? How do you know they aren't just waiting for you to hit a jackpot and have ideas of how to get it from you. Even without that you have a right to your personal space and having a stranger just stand there and watch you place the machines is quite a long way into VERY WEIRD! Ask them to move along and if they don't get security to make it official, they are watching you every second you are in there and if they know that you, the one that is feeding money into the machines, are feeling uncomfortable... they will help, I can assure you.

At least 30 years ago I was playing the slots in Atlantic City and after a while I noticed an old woman just hanging around in the area, not playing, just watching. This was when slots still spit out coins with each win. I won a few coins here and there, then eventually won something like $50 in quarters. As the coins are dropping into the bin, this old biddy reached in and tried to grab a handful. I pushed her hand away and she started yelling and screaming. She said it was "her money," that she had been playing that machine before me and ran out of coins, that I was stealing from her, blah, blah, blah.

A security guard came over and she repeated her tale of woe. The guard asked,"Ma'am, were you playing this machine when this winning combination appeared?" She said no, but it didn't matter because it was "her money" that was being dispensed, that she was a regular customer, that the casino is cheating her, how unfair it all was. The guard said, "sorry, ma'am, this gentleman won the money from the casino, he's not stealing from you, and if you don't calm down we will ask you to leave." Some old geezer, maybe her husband, finally led her away. And a half a dozen senior citizens gave me the stink-eye when I walked away with my coins.

 

[bcla]

At least 30 years ago I was playing the slots in Atlantic City and after a while I noticed an old woman just hanging around in the area, not playing, just watching. This was when slots still spit out coins with each win. I won a few coins here and there, then eventually won something like $50 in quarters. As the coins are dropping into the bin, this old biddy reached in and tried to grab a handful. I pushed her hand away and she started yelling and screaming. She said it was "her money," that she had been playing that machine before me and ran out of coins, that I was stealing from her, blah, blah, blah.

A security guard came over and she repeated her tale of woe. The guard asked,"Ma'am, were you playing this machine when this winning combination appeared?" She said no, but it didn't matter because it was "her money" that was being dispensed, that she was a regular customer, that the casino is cheating her, how unfair it all was. The guard said, "sorry, ma'am, this gentleman won the money from the casino, he's not stealing from you, and if you don't calm down we will ask you to leave." Some old geezer, maybe her husband, finally led her away. And a half a dozen senior citizens gave me the stink-eye when I walked away with my coins.

A lot of people are still into the myth that slot machines load up and then pay out. I remember that was what happened in a Flintstones episode. Fred pours all his money for his trip into a slot machine and runs out. When an old lady goes to that machine and hits a jackpot, Fred is complaining that it's his money. That's actually a pretty popular myth out there.

However, a lot of people think that the reels actually mean something these days when the machines are basically 100% electronic and even mechanical looking reels are simply braking based on where the electronics tell it to stop. And they don't pay out real money any more.

 

[Julie's Haircut]

A lot of people are still into the myth that slot machines load up and then pay out. I remember that was what happened in a Flintstones episode. Fred pours all his money for his trip into a slot machine and runs out. When an old lady goes to that machine and hits a jackpot, Fred is complaining that it's his money. That's actually a pretty popular myth out there.

However, a lot of people think that the reels actually mean something these days when the machines are basically 100% electronic and even mechanical looking reels are simply braking based on where the electronics tell it to stop. And they don't pay out real money any more.

Well, this was definitely a mechanical machine back then. I don't think it even had a "Spin Reels" button; you had to manually pull the handle. But even then, yes, after the reels started spinning internal electronics took over to stop them. As far as I remember, there were no "credits" back then; you needed to feed coins into the slot for each pull.

I understood why the old lady was upset. She believed in that myth. The whole scene rattled me too. I cashed in the coins, found my friend, and we went to have a few drinks.

 

[bcla]

Well, this was definitely a mechanical machine back then. I don't think it even had a "Spin Reels" button; you had to manually pull the handle. But even then, yes, after the reels started spinning internal electronics took over to stop them. As far as I remember, there were no "credits" back then; you needed to feed coins into the slot for each pull.

I understood why the old lady was upset. She believed in that myth. The whole scene rattled me too. I cashed in the coins, found my friend, and we went to have a few drinks.

I remember when I was originally old enough to gamble (90s) and went on a few trips, I was actually to scared to do anything like play blackjack or anything heavy duty with slots. What I ended up doing was arriving with $10 worth of nickels and I just played some nickel machines - mostly video poker. That was back in the day when all machines used real coins. Even back when I started to see more and more payout slips with barcodes, there was this one place that still used coins. Of course the coins had problems. Dealing with them was a pain with all those cups and counting machines. I've seen the documentary about casino cheats, including the guy who used a portable light to fool the dispenser into putting out more coins thinking that the sensor hasn't registered enough coins being spit out.

 

[wenrob]

At least 30 years ago I was playing the slots in Atlantic City and after a while I noticed an old woman just hanging around in the area, not playing, just watching. This was when slots still spit out coins with each win. I won a few coins here and there, then eventually won something like $50 in quarters. As the coins are dropping into the bin, this old biddy reached in and tried to grab a handful. I pushed her hand away and she started yelling and screaming. She said it was "her money," that she had been playing that machine before me and ran out of coins, that I was stealing from her, blah, blah, blah.

A security guard came over and she repeated her tale of woe. The guard asked,"Ma'am, were you playing this machine when this winning combination appeared?" She said no, but it didn't matter because it was "her money" that was being dispensed, that she was a regular customer, that the casino is cheating her, how unfair it all was. The guard said, "sorry, ma'am, this gentleman won the money from the casino, he's not stealing from you, and if you don't calm down we will ask you to leave." Some old geezer, maybe her husband, finally led her away. And a half a dozen senior citizens gave me the stink-eye when I walked away with my coins.

Way back in the day when I used to play a little, twice I cashed out and had someone came in behind me and hit the very next hand. To say I was a little miffed would be an understatement. While I didn't believe in the myth of loading up the machine, you can't help but think you 'primed' the machine and they just cashed out 'your' money. Obviously I didn't try to take/claim it as mine but you can bet I expressed my disbelief in colorful terms.

On the flip side of that we were out in a group of six, four of us playing in the same bank of machines, two playing intermittently. We ALL hit, one right after the other within a thirty minute time span. There was lots of whooping and celebrating and quite the crowd standing back watching us. Now that was a have security walk you out kind of night. Not that we felt threatened by the people watching but we did have a LOT of cash on us by the end so it was the prudent thing to do.

 

[RedAngie]

A few times I got frustrated with a losing slot machine and moved over a few seats and soon someone else won at the machine I was originally playing. *%#@&!!!!!! Yeah, I know it wasn't "my money" the new person won, but still, I inwardly kicked myself "damn, why didn't I stay at that machine a bit longer?"

I'm not sure how it worked in the old days, but today I'm pretty sure you need to be at the right machine at the right millisecond in time. The next player who takes over your old machine won't necessarily win if they spin the wheels a second sooner or a second later than the exact time the machine is "ready" to pay out.

Some of those senior citizen woman frequent slot players can get quite possessive about their favorite machines. Woe to anyone who dares to intrude into "their territory."

 

[wenrob]

A few times I got frustrated with a losing slot machine and moved over a few seats and soon someone else won at the machine I was originally playing. *%#@&!!!!!! Yeah, I know it wasn't "my money" the new person won, but still, I inwardly kicked myself "damn, why didn't I stay at that machine a bit longer?"

I'm not sure how it worked in the old days, but today I'm pretty sure you need to be at the right machine at the right millisecond in time. The next player who takes over your old machine won't necessarily win if they spin the wheels a second sooner or a second later than the exact time the machine is "ready" to pay out.

Some of those senior citizen woman frequent slot players can get quite possessive about their favorite machines. Woe to anyone who dares to intrude into "their territory."

Haha, yes! They sure let you know in uncertain terms that you are playing THEIR machine.

 

[bcla]

A few times I got frustrated with a losing slot machine and moved over a few seats and soon someone else won at the machine I was originally playing. *%#@&!!!!!! Yeah, I know it wasn't "my money" the new person won, but still, I inwardly kicked myself "damn, why didn't I stay at that machine a bit longer?"

I'm not sure how it worked in the old days, but today I'm pretty sure you need to be at the right machine at the right millisecond in time. The next player who takes over your old machine won't necessarily win if they spin the wheels a second sooner or a second later than the exact time the machine is "ready" to pay out.

Some of those senior citizen woman frequent slot players can get quite possessive about their favorite machines. Woe to anyone who dares to intrude into "their territory."

Millisecond? It's way smaller than that these days. Basically all machines these days operate off of random number generators. If the RNG is cycling at 1 GHZ (which is actually pretty slow these days) and there's a new number each clock cycle, that's a billion numbers generated per second. Maybe it can generate a 64-bit number, but they're probably going to round out the number so the "lookup table" is reasonable. I'm pretty sure that it's possible to cycle through every single eventuality every second or two. So you press the button to play (or the pull of the handle starts the electronics) and you basically pull a number and the program looks up what that number is supposed to represent. At least in Nevada, the gaming board has technical staff that can check the program and calculate the odds, so it's not anything that's super mysterious if the odds can be reverse engineered.

I remember hearing a story about a lottery winner who bought a quick pick ticket after somebody jumped in front of them in line. The way many people saw it, this guy's impatience cost him the winning ticket. However, the random number cycling is happening hundreds of millions of times per second, so the employee operating the machine had to start it in motion at a time probably precise down to the nanosecond just to get that outcome. Call it what you will. I like to call it a lot of moving parts, but others understand "chaos theory". It may not be truly random how the numbers are generated, but human beings simply don't have the kind of control to press a button precisely down to the nanosecond.