After 3 days of Disney eating, we cancelled all our remaining table service ADRs

Speaking of Crappy pizza. There is a Pizza place in St. Pete, FL called Cappys Pizza and I will never forget the first time we pulled up there to eat my son said 'OH NO!!! CRAPPY PIZZA!!!"

BTW: I really like Via Napoli Pizza in Epcot... really really good IMO!!!!

I haven't had NY Pizza in a few decades so I can't comment on that.. i am sure its great though! :)

"crappy pizza" that's so funny:): Thanks for the laugh!
As for us 2 adults, we do mostly QS now with a couple of favorite TS's thrown in. Works for us. We used to be a TS every day, but could never eat all that food, so decided 2 years ago to try QS, and we are never going back to every day TS's. We found that trying to keep those daily reservations was a PIA for us. We usually cancelled over half of them because we were 1) not hungry, 2) too tired and sore to go out to eat, 3) just didn't want German at that time (we are human and do change our minds) something Disney has forgotten, and 4) just got tired of going to scheduled TS. We are not foodies and don't expect to find gourmet food at WDW so QS is fine for us. It's such an individual thing, and no one is wrong or right..........
 
Different strokes for different folks. I am a single mom traveling with my son so the CS experience is like this:
try to find something near where we are so as not to add extra walking just go to to lunch (when I plan my TS I plan my day around being kind of in that area) that has something on the menu my son will like. Sure, I could plan ahead, but doesn't that negate the flexibility benefit of CS?
show up at cs at lunch time, because that is when he is hungry, along with EVERYONE ELSE in the parks.
Get in a line to order. Listen to kid ask me how long it's going to be on that line. Try to corral kid from whirling into other people because he cannot stay still.
Get in a line to wait for food. Wait for food. Try to contain kid who is now even more agitated that we are now waiting on a second line for food and he is starving and wanted to eat 20 minutes ago and we are still waiting for food.
Eventually get tray of food. Try to balance tray with beverages. If toppings/condiments are included, try to verbally contain kid while stopping by condiment spot or topping bar holding full tray of food with beverages balanced (why are the bottoms of cups more narrow than the top?? does anyone ever wonder this? and the bottled stuff rolls around on the tray... and let me tell you it is no fun to have to bend down and retrieve it while balancing said tray and managing kid) and get condiments or toppings for food.
Fight the crowds for a table. Squeeze through large parties with my barely balanced tray in one hand and kid in other hand. Eventually find a table after a couple of false starts that remind me of trying to park my car at the mall around christmas time, and say a quick prayer that my food is not cold yet... but the table is filthy. Set food down on least filthy spot, sit kid down at table, go and get more napkins to clean off table. Use some of the bottled water to clean off the table and dispose of napkins.
Finally sit down red-faced and frazzled myself, blowing the loose hair strands out of my face and "enjoy" my cs meal. It doesn't even matter what it is or how good it is, at this point I'm wishing i'd booked a TS.
We sit down and eat and I do the whole thing in reverse... pack up the trays with trash and dispose of it and give the quick table a wipe before I leave because I am self conscious of the next person who is hovering around my table after noticing we are done with our meal hoping I will get up quickly enough that they can eat their meal before it gets cold. Not a relaxing meal AT ALL.

I tried eating at CS at off times and instead of dealing with the crowds you deal with slow service as they are on a skeleton crew by that time of day and the dregs of what is left as half of it is sold out for the day.


We did all TS on my last trip. My TS experiences were as follows:
Book first lunch seating TS 180 days in advance. Plan touring plan around it. For example, 10:40 Jedi Training Acacdemy into 11:15 Sci Fi Dine in lunch... get out of Jedi Training at 11:10, show up at Sci Fi which is literally 1 minute away at 11:11. Since it is early in the seating, seated within about 5 minutes... and the lobby was not crowded so we sat for those 5 minutes and calmly waited rather than abusing our tired feet by standing in yet another line.
Someone brings me to a table waiting just for me that someone else has cleaned just for me.
Someone comes to my table where I am sitting there relaxing and watching film clips with the kid and asks me what I'd like to eat.
That someone balances the beverages on the tray and sets them down in front of me, rather than making me do it myself.. and they do this for a living so the fact that the bottom of the glasses/cups are more narrow than the tops don't seem to bother them! Beverages (in this case shakes) were brought quickly.
If there is bread service that gives us something to get started on. (not all do though, sci fi doesn't)
Someone brings the food to me.... with condiments. If I want anything special, like horseradish sauce for my steak, that someone brings it to me in a little cup if I ask nicely. I don't have to wait behind the guy patiently pumping ketchup into little cups for his party of 22 who are on the trip of a lifetime to Disney only every single one of them eats ketchup like it is its own food group.
Someone takes my trash away and no one is hovering waiting for my table because they are all outside in the lobby, but I am secure in the knowledge that not only will someone clean off my table before the next patron arrives at it but i won't have to look them in the face apologetically at my half-*** attempt to clean off my own mess with paper napkins and the last mouthful of my $3 bottle of water since there doesn't appear to be anyone in sight who is going to do it for them.
Pay my check (yes more than a CS), leave a nice tip because I am so grateful for the lovely person who brought me my beverages and condiments without drama, and go to our next planned thing.

This sounds so like dealing with my DD. We also do two TS meals a day, early either breakfast or lunch and then a dinner. I do understand that for many this doesn't work for there Disney trip, but my DD TS works so much better.
 
We will have the QSDP on our upcoming trip (booked the play, stay, and dine promo) and had the same dining plan on our last onsite Disney trip. We love the flexibility and variety available at the many counter service restaurants and resort food court (staying at Pop). Yes the lines and seating can sometimes be a pain, but it's not that bad. We only have three TS meals booked this trip and those are character meals (this will be our three year old's first Disney trip). I'm excited to try Harambe Market at AK, BOG lunch at MK, and Earl of Sandwich in Disney Springs this time around!
 
We did mostly counter service last trip. Well, we learned we need to relax with a glass of wine each night at a sit down dinner!:p

Looking forward to doing just that this next trip. We picked some great ones.....
 
On our long weekend trip last month, we specifically did NOT book any TS (which may be the first time that's happened in all my 30+ trips). It was specifically because we knew there were lots of great QS places to choose from and we didn't want to be tied down to a reservation. We do really enjoy our TS meals, but we were going for something different this time. We ate great!

Blaze Pizza (great value and while it was no "NY pizza" it was quite yummy)
D-Lux Burger
Sunshine Seasons
Gaston's Tavern
Pecos Bill's

Our only sit down meal was at Chevy's at the Crossroads and it was marvelous to just walk in to a restaurant and be seated...plus the place was practically empty. It was fabulous and inexpensive.
 
via napoli is hit or miss at times. most of the time it's cooked right, but there are times when it's severely undercooked.
 
Different strokes for different folks. I am a single mom traveling with my son so the CS experience is like this:
try to find something near where we are so as not to add extra walking just go to to lunch (when I plan my TS I plan my day around being kind of in that area) that has something on the menu my son will like. Sure, I could plan ahead, but doesn't that negate the flexibility benefit of CS?
show up at cs at lunch time, because that is when he is hungry, along with EVERYONE ELSE in the parks.
Get in a line to order. Listen to kid ask me how long it's going to be on that line. Try to corral kid from whirling into other people because he cannot stay still.
Get in a line to wait for food. Wait for food. Try to contain kid who is now even more agitated that we are now waiting on a second line for food and he is starving and wanted to eat 20 minutes ago and we are still waiting for food.
Eventually get tray of food. Try to balance tray with beverages. If toppings/condiments are included, try to verbally contain kid while stopping by condiment spot or topping bar holding full tray of food with beverages balanced (why are the bottoms of cups more narrow than the top?? does anyone ever wonder this? and the bottled stuff rolls around on the tray... and let me tell you it is no fun to have to bend down and retrieve it while balancing said tray and managing kid) and get condiments or toppings for food.
Fight the crowds for a table. Squeeze through large parties with my barely balanced tray in one hand and kid in other hand. Eventually find a table after a couple of false starts that remind me of trying to park my car at the mall around christmas time, and say a quick prayer that my food is not cold yet... but the table is filthy. Set food down on least filthy spot, sit kid down at table, go and get more napkins to clean off table. Use some of the bottled water to clean off the table and dispose of napkins.
Finally sit down red-faced and frazzled myself, blowing the loose hair strands out of my face and "enjoy" my cs meal. It doesn't even matter what it is or how good it is, at this point I'm wishing i'd booked a TS.
We sit down and eat and I do the whole thing in reverse... pack up the trays with trash and dispose of it and give the quick table a wipe before I leave because I am self conscious of the next person who is hovering around my table after noticing we are done with our meal hoping I will get up quickly enough that they can eat their meal before it gets cold. Not a relaxing meal AT ALL.

I tried eating at CS at off times and instead of dealing with the crowds you deal with slow service as they are on a skeleton crew by that time of day and the dregs of what is left as half of it is sold out for the day.


We did all TS on my last trip. My TS experiences were as follows:
Book first lunch seating TS 180 days in advance. Plan touring plan around it. For example, 10:40 Jedi Training Acacdemy into 11:15 Sci Fi Dine in lunch... get out of Jedi Training at 11:10, show up at Sci Fi which is literally 1 minute away at 11:11. Since it is early in the seating, seated within about 5 minutes... and the lobby was not crowded so we sat for those 5 minutes and calmly waited rather than abusing our tired feet by standing in yet another line.
Someone brings me to a table waiting just for me that someone else has cleaned just for me.
Someone comes to my table where I am sitting there relaxing and watching film clips with the kid and asks me what I'd like to eat.
That someone balances the beverages on the tray and sets them down in front of me, rather than making me do it myself.. and they do this for a living so the fact that the bottom of the glasses/cups are more narrow than the tops don't seem to bother them! Beverages (in this case shakes) were brought quickly.
If there is bread service that gives us something to get started on. (not all do though, sci fi doesn't)
Someone brings the food to me.... with condiments. If I want anything special, like horseradish sauce for my steak, that someone brings it to me in a little cup if I ask nicely. I don't have to wait behind the guy patiently pumping ketchup into little cups for his party of 22 who are on the trip of a lifetime to Disney only every single one of them eats ketchup like it is its own food group.
Someone takes my trash away and no one is hovering waiting for my table because they are all outside in the lobby, but I am secure in the knowledge that not only will someone clean off my table before the next patron arrives at it but i won't have to look them in the face apologetically at my half-*** attempt to clean off my own mess with paper napkins and the last mouthful of my $3 bottle of water since there doesn't appear to be anyone in sight who is going to do it for them.
Pay my check (yes more than a CS), leave a nice tip because I am so grateful for the lovely person who brought me my beverages and condiments without drama, and go to our next planned thing.

So funny! You surely need that TS meal. I would love to have you describe a buffet with said child!!!!!
 
We're two adults and we used to do 2 TS meals every day. The cost ends up being $80-$115 for each meal with tip and the food is just not what it used to be (especially for the cost). We did a trip with CS, which was fine except the ones with different food ordered at different areas either left us eating mostly separate or one of us would have to deal with room temp food if we waited for the other. Plus, the eating areas in CS can feel kind of chaotic (we try going at less popular times of the day). We have another trip coming up in May and we're doing a mix of CS, food (dinner) delivery (we're staying at OKW and have a kitchen/dining room), and meals at Trails End (delicious food at a decent price). We'll also do a couple TS meals that are unique to WDW and the themeing/characters are "worth" the ridiculous cost (i.e. Sci-Fi and Garden Grill).
 
Yes CS are definitely cheaper and bursting with variety these days. But getting out of the crowd, sitting down, and being waited on is soooo nice. :cloud9:
 
The overall quality and selection has diminished at the sit downs for years...combine that with the ridiculous pricing since the great dining plan...and it's much less enjoyable now.

Still do sitdowns...but far fewer. Wolfgang puck express will give you better food than 90% of the disney operated sitdowns consistently...that's hard to ignore.
 
Have you not tried Via Napoli pizza? Best pizza ever!! :goodvibes Consistently amazing every single time.

Via Napoli is pretty good...

But "best pizza ever"?!?

The only way you'd find the best pizza In wdw is if bought a plane ticket and flew there.

Not the place for pizza overall. You can get pizza anywhere that doesn't feature dominos and papa John's.
 
Have you not tried Via Napoli pizza? Best pizza ever!! :goodvibes Consistently amazing every single time.

The last thing I would call VN is "consistent". When they're "on", they're good, but I've had ungood pizza there several times. Very up and down.
 
I love the concept of grabbing a bite here and there. For meals, it's easy to do when I'm with one other adult. When it's the 5 of us I want a TS so that I can relax for a little bit. We have to corral our 3 kids, get orders, visit the bathroom, one of us tries to find a seat-if they'll let us sit before we have our food, the other carries the pile of food through the herd of people...no thanks. I was opposed to buffets until this trip after our first experience. DH and I hardly got a bite before having to escort someone up for more. I said ok to Biergarten this time because mine are now old enough to do it themselves or help each other.

You do what works for your group. QS was a giant pain for mine. It will be about half & half on our upcoming trip. We're also taking it easy with park touring so I won't be as antsy about "wasting time" standing in line for food. I have one who wants something every 20 minutes.
 
So funny! You surely need that TS meal. I would love to have you describe a buffet with said child!!!!!
It is a lot better now that he was older as he was able to mostly serve himself. By the middle of our trip I just let him go up to the buffet himself and kept an eye on him from the table (bad mom? he just went to the kid's buffet at H&V which is actually a real pain in the butt for an adult to bend down into as it's lower than the rest).

But when he was 6, wooboy. I think our first was tusker house lunch, only I didn't realize it was the brunch period so it was still mostly breakfast. My son is also on the spectrum and has ADHD (which explains some of the whirling behavior, but I see tons of kids whirl lol) so his coordination is not great and neither was his ability to pay attention and focus at the time, especially in a place like Disney (he is much much better now).

First, when it's just an adult and a child, you kind of have to take your bag with you up to the buffet. Maybe I could leave it at the table, I don't know... I'm from brooklyn, so I've got my purse on my shoulder. Then we walk up to the thing and get our plates. "Mom, I want a GREEN plate." "fine, this orangey plate is mine, here is a green plate it is yours... can you hold it yourself?" :thumbsup2

Get in buffet line and make the mistake of letting kid get in line behind you... while trying to see what is available, turn around and see that the kid HAS HIS PLATE ON HIS HEAD. "What are you doing with your plate on your head?" :confused3 "don't do that, please." I turn back around and two seconds later hear a loud clatter as the plate ends up on the floor (i'm guessing somewhere between me saying not to do that and turning back around, it ended up back on his head). :wave2: "mom, I need a new plate."

So now with everyone looking, get out of line to pick up plate and find a place to put it down where it won't get mixed with the clean plates, and get another clean green plate. Get back on the back of the line this time holding two plates and with kid in front of me.

Start dishing out food onto plates. I discovered that the best method for doing this is to put both plates down every time you want to dish something out. It's loud there so trying to hear whether your kid wants something or not requires bending over... only I found out the hard way don't lean forward with your purse on your shoulder because it will flop forward narrowly missing the food... don't ask me how I know this. Walk the buffet with indecisive child trying to figure out if he wants to try this or that while people start getting antsy behind you. Finally walk the entire buffet and have food on both plates and walk back to the table deciding against having your child hold his own plate.

At this point you'd think you'd be home free to sit down and eat your meal but no, now the kid is doing the "I have to pee" dance. I ask "do you have to go to the bathroom?" :confused3 "what do you mean you don't know? you're doing the dance. Do you have to go to the bathroom?" :scratchin "the food is getting cold. do you or do you not have to go to the bathroom?" ::yes:: alright. let's go to the bathroom. You couldn't have mentioned it before we got our food, right? :confused3

Successfully do the bathroom routine and come back to the table to find that Donald is on his way... oh well, the food is stone cold already so what's a few more minutes? but it was all worth it to see this, the expression on my child's face for his first character meeting:

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The food was pretty decent even cold and I didn't really want breakfast food anyway :)

So much easier now although I think I did catch him putting his empty plate on his head once or twice. I will tell you though it was a huge sigh of relief when our next character meal was 'Ohana and they brought the food to the table. then it was "why yes, we'd LOVE some more bacon and waffles!"
 
Different strokes for different folks. I am a single mom traveling with my son so the CS experience is like this:
try to find something near where we are so as not to add extra walking just go to to lunch (when I plan my TS I plan my day around being kind of in that area) that has something on the menu my son will like. Sure, I could plan ahead, but doesn't that negate the flexibility benefit of CS?
show up at cs at lunch time, because that is when he is hungry, along with EVERYONE ELSE in the parks.
Get in a line to order. Listen to kid ask me how long it's going to be on that line. Try to corral kid from whirling into other people because he cannot stay still.
Get in a line to wait for food. Wait for food. Try to contain kid who is now even more agitated that we are now waiting on a second line for food and he is starving and wanted to eat 20 minutes ago and we are still waiting for food.
Eventually get tray of food. Try to balance tray with beverages. If toppings/condiments are included, try to verbally contain kid while stopping by condiment spot or topping bar holding full tray of food with beverages balanced (why are the bottoms of cups more narrow than the top?? does anyone ever wonder this? and the bottled stuff rolls around on the tray... and let me tell you it is no fun to have to bend down and retrieve it while balancing said tray and managing kid) and get condiments or toppings for food.
Fight the crowds for a table. Squeeze through large parties with my barely balanced tray in one hand and kid in other hand. Eventually find a table after a couple of false starts that remind me of trying to park my car at the mall around christmas time, and say a quick prayer that my food is not cold yet... but the table is filthy. Set food down on least filthy spot, sit kid down at table, go and get more napkins to clean off table. Use some of the bottled water to clean off the table and dispose of napkins.
Finally sit down red-faced and frazzled myself, blowing the loose hair strands out of my face and "enjoy" my cs meal. It doesn't even matter what it is or how good it is, at this point I'm wishing i'd booked a TS.
We sit down and eat and I do the whole thing in reverse... pack up the trays with trash and dispose of it and give the quick table a wipe before I leave because I am self conscious of the next person who is hovering around my table after noticing we are done with our meal hoping I will get up quickly enough that they can eat their meal before it gets cold. Not a relaxing meal AT ALL.

I tried eating at CS at off times and instead of dealing with the crowds you deal with slow service as they are on a skeleton crew by that time of day and the dregs of what is left as half of it is sold out for the day.
You paint a very realistic picture here, LOL! And I'm just me and my 70+ year old parents! My father gets grouchy and impatient as a toddler when he decides it's time to eat NOW!
We ate all QS when we went over Easter, and while it kept us alive, it wasn't all that great. The best two experiences were Flame Tree and Casey's and both were because we happened to be walking up to them right when they opened and though, "Yeah, I could eat." No lines, no searching for a table, fresh food. Oh, and Dad was back at the hotel, which was good because he would have been the one saying, "Eh, I'm not hungry right now," and then would have been ill as a snake 30 minutes later when he wanted to eat NOW and every place was jam-packed. (He just doesn't get it, LOL!)

I'm making TS/Sig ADRs this time for dinner each of our three nights and breakfast on our departure day. We'll play the rest by ear. I'm interested in some of the lounges. Seems like a good alternative to CS.

ETA: Just saw the picture with Donald! Adorable kid!
 
It is a lot better now that he was older as he was able to mostly serve himself. By the middle of our trip I just let him go up to the buffet himself and kept an eye on him from the table (bad mom? he just went to the kid's buffet at H&V which is actually a real pain in the butt for an adult to bend down into as it's lower than the rest).

But when he was 6, wooboy. I think our first was tusker house lunch, only I didn't realize it was the brunch period so it was still mostly breakfast. My son is also on the spectrum and has ADHD (which explains some of the whirling behavior, but I see tons of kids whirl lol) so his coordination is not great and neither was his ability to pay attention and focus at the time, especially in a place like Disney (he is much much better now).

First, when it's just an adult and a child, you kind of have to take your bag with you up to the buffet. Maybe I could leave it at the table, I don't know... I'm from brooklyn, so I've got my purse on my shoulder. Then we walk up to the thing and get our plates. "Mom, I want a GREEN plate." "fine, this orangey plate is mine, here is a green plate it is yours... can you hold it yourself?" :thumbsup2

Get in buffet line and make the mistake of letting kid get in line behind you... while trying to see what is available, turn around and see that the kid HAS HIS PLATE ON HIS HEAD. "What are you doing with your plate on your head?" :confused3 "don't do that, please." I turn back around and two seconds later hear a loud clatter as the plate ends up on the floor (i'm guessing somewhere between me saying not to do that and turning back around, it ended up back on his head). :wave2: "mom, I need a new plate."

So now with everyone looking, get out of line to pick up plate and find a place to put it down where it won't get mixed with the clean plates, and get another clean green plate. Get back on the back of the line this time holding two plates and with kid in front of me.

Start dishing out food onto plates. I discovered that the best method for doing this is to put both plates down every time you want to dish something out. It's loud there so trying to hear whether your kid wants something or not requires bending over... only I found out the hard way don't lean forward with your purse on your shoulder because it will flop forward narrowly missing the food... don't ask me how I know this. Walk the buffet with indecisive child trying to figure out if he wants to try this or that while people start getting antsy behind you. Finally walk the entire buffet and have food on both plates and walk back to the table deciding against having your child hold his own plate.

At this point you'd think you'd be home free to sit down and eat your meal but no, now the kid is doing the "I have to pee" dance. I ask "do you have to go to the bathroom?" :confused3 "what do you mean you don't know? you're doing the dance. Do you have to go to the bathroom?" :scratchin "the food is getting cold. do you or do you not have to go to the bathroom?" ::yes:: alright. let's go to the bathroom. You couldn't have mentioned it before we got our food, right? :confused3

Successfully do the bathroom routine and come back to the table to find that Donald is on his way... oh well, the food is stone cold already so what's a few more minutes? but it was all worth it to see this, the expression on my child's face for his first character meeting:

10620720_10152252953571286_490766251836115543_n.jpg


The food was pretty decent even cold and I didn't really want breakfast food anyway :)

So much easier now although I think I did catch him putting his empty plate on his head once or twice. I will tell you though it was a huge sigh of relief when our next character meal was 'Ohana and they brought the food to the table. then it was "why yes, we'd LOVE some more bacon and waffles!"

Lisa F. - STAR parent for sure! The face with Donald is priceless!
 

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