The swap leaders can decide how they want to handle this. We can't undo what has already been done. The leaders and the members can decide to either cancel & refund what's been collected so far or continue the swap without collecting any additional funds. The decision will be left up to the individual swaps.
WOW - talk about a rude post!!! And people wonder why CMs say that DVC members have an attitude of entitlement!!
Just wondering...but our stroller is close to becoming Free. Once it is free, I understand that we would be allowed to post our thread once more. Would it be against the rules to ask that people who wanted donate an item to our swap in order to join, since it requires no money changes hands. This way we could get our cup holder, organizer etc. that we wanted and were planning on purchasing from our stroller fund once it became free.
Hope that made sense
I was wondering about this also. Not make it a requirement to join or anything, but, say the stroller needs a new wheel or it will not be usable, is it allowable to say "needed front wheel if anyone wants to donate one?" or something along that line, as long as NO MONEY exchanges hands?Just wondering...but our stroller is close to becoming Free. Once it is free, I understand that we would be allowed to post our thread once more. Would it be against the rules to ask that people who wanted donate an item to our swap in order to join, since it requires no money changes hands. This way we could get our cup holder, organizer etc. that we wanted and were planning on purchasing from our stroller fund once it became free.
Hope that made sense
) sullied by being a part of a forum which condones and enables illegal behaviour. Really a photopass share is no different than saying that the newest Disney movie is being released on DVD Tuesday why don't a group of us get together and buy just one copy and burn several more so we can all pay only 2 bucks?! It is copy right infringement nad illegal (even if you give it away I am pretty sure it is illegal). Secondally, because it is illegal I ahve an interest because I really enjoy the DIS and I think (just hitnk do not know at all) that Disney could have the DIS shut down for such activities if Disney has enough and wants to jsut stop it all together.
) I have an interest because when people abuse the system by working within the rules but not the spirit of the rules then the rules change eventually and then those who did not abuse the system (liek me with my vested interest here) are "punished" by changes made to stop the few (how often do you see the few ruin it for the many in all kinds of situations really).
Personally I am relieved to see this and thank the mods (though I do think the new rule should be worded more apporpirately to limit certain actions without being confusing about things like DVC points). I was stunned the first time I saw photopass shares on this board. It struck me as illegal right away and it always made me feel a bit guilty that I am part of an organization (the DIS) that condoned and facillitated such behaviour. I am also surprised (as otehr pps have said) that Disney did not have lawyers contact the DIS very soon after these started to have it stopped. Good for the DIS for putting a stop to it on its own before lawyers get involved
I am not sure that swaps would be quite illegal but I also do not think it is right or fair to ask Disney to store something for the sake of swapping it (free or for pay really). When I first saw swasps I thought the people in them would meet each other in person at the resorts to make the swap--I was amazed when I realized they were having Disney store and retrieve these items. Right now if someone is visiting WDW then taking the cruise and then returning to WDW or some other such similar disjointed trip the resorts are very kind and will store luggae you do not need for the mid section for you. I was thrilled when this was first offered to us and I did feel it was legitimate to take advantage of the offer (not my request and certainly not a demand) as I was still staying on some form of Disney property the entire time. Every time I come to this board and see a page nearly full of swaps I realize the days of WDW storing anything for guests will be over so soon and I do think it is putting an undue burden on WDW and the CMs at bell service.
I love to save money and find a bargain but I am happy to know the DIS will not help people do so illegally or in a way that greatly inconveinces CMs and other guets.
While I can understand why the swaps were closed...I'm sure the DIS doesn't want the liability...and even if something DIDN'T happen, my guess is the DIS saw how large these swaps have become and doesn't want to be slapped with a liability in the future.
I would think that the DIS is allowing the DVC rental points board to stay up because Disney approves the rental of points...however, using a stroller swap, fridge swap, photopass, etc...in Disney's eyes, is a way of cheating the system.
For what it's worth, if you are desperate for a swap, msmayor is right....Google can be your very best friend.
Since it's "Earth Week", I thought I'd share my thoughts on stroller swaps.I felt that the stroller swaps are a green alternative to buying a throw away stroller at Wal-Mart just for the week. Landfills don't need cheap strollers that were just used for a week at Disney. I'm also in the camp that doesn't really need a stroller at home, but a long day of walking is going to be tough on a 3 year old! So, I'm very unlikely to pay an airline to ship a cheap stroller home that I won't need.
The swaps are not necessary to save the the enviornment.
This is a good suggestion, I may look into for future trips but $85 is even high I think when you can buy a fairly nice one for that. The problem is who wants to buy a stroller for 1 week.
To stay with the "Earth Week" theme, renting a stroller from Disney is also a green alternative.
No politics - no religion - now no swaps... As I read each of the treads announcing the changes I've seen numerous suggestions that if you don't agree you can go somewhere else online.
I think it's really sad that another resource used by so many and truly greatly appreciated has been eliminated. I find it ironic though that I was recently asked to modify a post b/c I quoted a PP and told that my agreement might have made new DISers feel less welcome - yet people who've been here for years are now told to go look somewhere else if they don't like it?
Since sub-boards exist on other DIS forums, it certainly seems reasonable that a sub-board could work for swaps/general codes as well. It could even solve the other complaint I've read by some - that there are too many non-disney discounts on the BB and more talk of spending than budgeting.
I sincerely appreciate all the mods do and love the DIS. Sure, I could go elsewhere but I'd miss you all.
This is just an observation and not meant to be snarky but really, the DIS police seem to be getting more heavy-handed and less welcoming every day. I've heard people already talking about "the good old days" on the DIS and, for me, that's by far the saddest commentary...
This is a good suggestion, I may look into for future trips but $85 is even high I think when you can buy a fairly nice one for that. The problem is who wants to buy a stroller for 1 week.
