Why do people take on so much debt?

People actually BUY water bottles? We have about 20 on the shelf, after taking about that many to Goodwill. All swag given to us by employers, University alumni associations, our electric company, home improvement companies.
I worked for one company for 16 years that had 6 different corporate owners in that time, and every time we got sold, we got a new water bottle with the new corporations name on it.
I was thinking the same reading through the thread. We purged an entire bin of old ones last year that were gifts from suppliers and employers. Seems like those replaced the coffee cup as the go-to gift.
 
You don't need six of them. Or if you stop buying drinks out (which you probably don't need either) you don't even need that. That's my point.
I drink gallons of water a day (but I’m home a lot so just use a glass), but my kids bring them to the gym, classes, pretty much everywhere. What drives me nuts are dorm dwellers with cases of water. How much water do you drink each day? Should be at least a gallon.
 
I was thinking the same reading through the thread. We purged an entire bin of old ones last year that were gifts from suppliers and employers. Seems like those replaced the coffee cup as the go-to gift.
This is so true, my husband just brought one home from work.
 
I was thinking the same reading through the thread. We purged an entire bin of old ones last year that were gifts from suppliers and employers. Seems like those replaced the coffee cup as the go-to gift.
Oh, we have some of the coffee cups too, not counting the ones we gave to Goodwill. Of course, I Produced a Morning Newscast where we asked local businesses to send in a coffee mug with their logo on it and the weather guy would mention them and show the mug on the air. A few of the more interesting ones made it home.
 
I drink gallons of water a day (but I’m home a lot so just use a glass), but my kids bring them to the gym, classes, pretty much everywhere. What drives me nuts are dorm dwellers with cases of water. How much water do you drink each day? Should be at least a gallon.
Yikes. Drinking gallons of water a day is putting a huge strain on your kidneys. Be careful!
 
You mean things like an entire year worth of bs general ed classes & make you a better person classes that American academia specifically loves? Because yup. Waste of dough that but if you don’t pay you don’t get the degree. Rest of the world doesn’t put up with that nonsense and it shaves a year off their undergrad.

I’m glad your kids found/are finding paths they fit better in, it’s such a detriment to our society that these paths are not emphasized as equally as college :(
I know this is an old post but I was just reading through this thread and wanted to share my "thrifty" tip on college. CLEP tests! These are subject-matter tests made by the College Board (same people who do the SAT and AP). Many colleges will accept CLEP tests as college credit for general ed classes, just like they accept AP tests. Each CLEP costs $90, but learn.modernstates.org will give you a voucher to take each test for free. Modern States is open to everyone and is designed to give everyone a free year of college. My two kids both saved a year's worth of tuition/ room and board and started college with sophomore status because of them.

The advantage of the CLEP tests is that my kids didn't have to do any official school work (like AP or duel enrollment classes) to get the credit. And they got to bypass gen ed classes that they would have felt were a waste of time and money. They used a CLEP test practice book to see how they would fare before taking the tests and watched YouTube videos like Crash Course to brush up on things. Most colleges require a score of 51% or higher to pass.

If your child doesn't pass, you can re-try in 3 months. Modern States will give you another free voucher for each test to try again. They will also reimburse you for testing fees. The tests are usually administered at your local community college several times a month. Modern States also offers free online courses in each subject. You have to answer the questions at the end of the online course to get the voucher. However, you don't have to actively read/ watch the lessons unless you want to.

Duel enrollment classes are another great way to save on college-a lot of high schools cover the costs for the college class. AP courses are good, too, but they are a lot of work and stress for students. If students don't score a 3 or higher on an AP test, they don't get the credit even if they had good grades in the class. Whereas, if they had taken the duel enrollment class, they would have gotten the credit. If a child doesn't pass the AP test, he or she may be able to "make up" the credit by taking the corresponding CLEP test.

Sorry for the tangent but I feel like everyone should know about Modern States and CLEPs.
 
Too many people look at the per month payment and say “I can afford it”, without looking at the total cost.
Expanding on that thought: Too many people buy a car at the top of their budget, then they buy a house at the top of their budget, and they take a vacation at the top of their budget. They probably could've afforded to splurge on one of those categories, but when they try to splurge on ALL these items, it's more than they can afford.
Yes, as you said, this is choosing without looking at their total budget /their total costs.
Keep in mind when one accepts financial aid the tax payers are paying for that too.
Obviously. The taxpayers are investing in the next generation.
People these days have too many water bottles. How many does one need?
On a literal level, yes, water bottles are a oft-gifted item from companies, and most of us have more than we need. But those give-aways tend to be thinner /cheaper. I'd rather have one GOOD bottle that'll keep the drink cold all day. I actually have two large Yeti-type cups, and I carry one to work each day -- I do "need" two because I tend to run my dishwasher every other day.

Lately water bottles have become "trendy", so people bought the $40 Hydro-flask a couple years ago, then $40 Yeti products took over, and now they're all "out" -- and Stanleys are the deal.

Beyond water bottles, it's the idea of replacing perfectly good items just because something else is "the new thing". That'll keep you broke.
Not necessarily. My son went to a private University and got $10,000 a year in grants from the University's endowment. Not a single taxpayer dollar. I can't speak to what cost our student and parent loans had to the taxpayers. We paid market rate interest, and did not default, so I suspect the government broke even on that.
So those endowments were gifted by other people /not the same as taxes, but still given from someone else.
She said at least a gallon, did not say multiple gallons. Unless you drink so much water you have water intoxication, dehydration is worse for kidneys than too much water.
I don't think too many of us are at risk of over-consuming water.
I'm no spring chicken and the way I see it is this: the middle class is shrinking and the disparity between living very well off and living by scraping by is widening at a continuum.
I'm Gen-X /born late 60s. When I was a teen my daddy told me my generation would be the last with a middle class -- I think he was off by a generation, but his concept was solid.
I know this is an old post but I was just reading through this thread and wanted to share my "thrifty" tip on college. CLEP tests!
Testing for credit is a great thing -- if you can pass the test. Thing is, everything is based upon your performance on one small set of questions on one single day. Yes, a strong student may knock out a semester's worth of classes -- but they're a roll of the dice.

If you're more of an average student (or if you get nervous on tests), another good option is taking community college classes during your junior-senior year of high school. In my state high school students (with good grades and permission of their principal) can take community college classes WITHOUT COST. Some do it in person /others do it online. But your grade is based upon smaller assignments over 18 weeks -- and you have complete control over whether you do the reading, whether you write the papers. An average student has a better chance with the community college courses.

Another excellent way to save money in college is to PLAN out your classes. I sat down with my kids, read the degree requirements, and together we made a 4-year plan for the major courses -- and they graduated on time. Both of my kids had roommates who just kinda registered for what they thought they should take /what looked fun. One roommate did two summer schools to "catch up" on things she could've done during the semesters. The other roommate took 6 years (full time, no major changes) to complete a 4-year degree.
 
Testing for credit is a great thing -- if you can pass the test. Thing is, everything is based upon your performance on one small set of questions on one single day. Yes, a strong student may knock out a semester's worth of classes -- but they're a roll of the dice.

If you're more of an average student (or if you get nervous on tests), another good option is taking community college classes during your junior-senior year of high school. In my state high school students (with good grades and permission of their principal) can take community college classes WITHOUT COST. Some do it in person /others do it online. But your grade is based upon smaller assignments over 18 weeks -- and you have complete control over whether you do the reading, whether you write the papers. An average student has a better chance with the community college courses.

Another excellent way to save money in college is to PLAN out your classes. I sat down with my kids, read the degree requirements, and together we made a 4-year plan for the major courses -- and they graduated on time. Both of my kids had roommates who just kinda registered for what they thought they should take /what looked fun. One roommate did two summer schools to "catch up" on things she could've done during the semesters. The other roommate took 6 years (full time, no major changes) to complete a 4-year degree.
I think the CLEP suggestion could be great, for some students. The real issue, for me, was "find the system that works for the child in front of you". My oldest got crap from her peers for not taking more AP classes. Instead, she took a 2-year vocational class on early childhood development (planning on a teaching degree). When she interviewed for colleges, she could show a portfolio of lesson plans--she got in to her first choice school. She's now a teacher with her master's in applied linguistics.

Kid #3 did the IB program--weighted similar to AP classes. She got a bunch of credits and has 2 classes left for her double major.

Youngest (18) did dual enrollment--it DID cost us (a discounted rate), because he chose the local branch of State U versus the community college (which would have been free). We did this because he was taking calculus towards an engineering degree--we wanted the most rigorous course possible. Of course, 2 semesters later, he changed his major (sigh!), but continued classes at State U for his senior year of HS. Result? He got accepted (and is attending) the same State U, and got a merit scholarship. He was pretty much a sure thing--they knew he could handle the course work. Plus, he already had his math and foreign language graduation requirements under his belt. And he ended is first semester with straight A's.

Different kids, different paths.
 
Some people get stressed over debt. Some do not give one hoot what their debt is.

I'm no spring chicken and the way I see it is this: the middle class is shrinking and the disparity between living very well off and living by scraping by is widening at a continuum.
What has made the US great was a strong middle class without it we will evolve into another third world country.
 
I'm just here for the water bottle controversy :rotfl2: I don't really gethow they fit into the original topic but.... I buy them. I only like a certain size,and it has to work well(cold,hot, lid mechanism) I currently own 3,the last one I bought bc I wanted a smaller size,insulated stainless steel that was easy to travel with,vs my larger ones that I use closer to home,or in the car locally.
 
I'm just here for the water bottle controversy :rotfl2: I don't really gethow they fit into the original topic but.... I buy them. I only like a certain size,and it has to work well(cold,hot, lid mechanism) I currently own 3,the last one I bought bc I wanted a smaller size,insulated stainless steel that was easy to travel with,vs my larger ones that I use closer to home,or in the car locally.
Well 3 water bottles! You are probably solely responsible for all consumer debt :rotfl2:

I too was very confused by water bottles getting thrown into the conversation!
 
it never occurred to me that people BUY an abundance of water bottles! I remember buying one for each of my (now adult) kids when they were in high school and the water fountains were upgraded to act as filling stations but other than that we've always aquired them as give aways. when my oldest recently was clearing (purging) stuff from their apartment I couldn't believe the number of water bottles but was told 'they gave them out on campus for every event, they give them out at work for every event-it's like that episode of 'everybody loves raymond' with the fruit of the month club -they just keep coming' :rotfl:
 
it never occurred to me that people BUY an abundance of water bottles! I remember buying one for each of my (now adult) kids when they were in high school and the water fountains were upgraded to act as filling stations but other than that we've always aquired them as give aways. when my oldest recently was clearing (purging) stuff from their apartment I couldn't believe the number of water bottles but was told 'they gave them out on campus for every event, they give them out at work for every event-it's like that episode of 'everybody loves raymond' with the fruit of the month club -they just keep coming' :rotfl:
Blue tooth portable speakers were kind of the swag gift of choice for a while too. The first one was great because it also was set up to accept a cord, the last two were strictly Blue Tooth. The electronic equipment I am most likely to use a portable speaker with are older SiriusXM aftermarket radios and police scanners that do not use Blue Tooth and require a cord connection.
 
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