Not sure what's best....

[ClaraOswald]

Ah, thanks. 7am for me then.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Ah, thanks. 7am for me then.

Commissions of 9.25% to sell current points are a killer….

 

[atthebeachclub]

Commissions of 9.25% to sell current points are a killer….

Yep. I was also told the price is increasing soon. So…I hope I am happy with my purchases for many years to come!

 

[ClaraOswald]

A while back, I do remember putting in alerts with some brokers but honestly can't even remember who or what I put in.

I'm sure some can't be linked here....but if you guys can tell me the top ones I should put in alerts with, that would be great. (Just use links so the filter will catch things not allowed.)

 

[NVDISFamily]

If you can take the hit on the initial "investment" you should not have a hard time renting the extra points or finding other ways to getting good value for them over the years you own them. My VGC points have already been a big win for value into WDW and Universal tickets and stays at Deluxe hotels at Universal. 20+ a point tax free exchange with extra discounts from using the boards sponsor...... it was very easy.

You will have more negotiation power on a 160 vs 100 point contract.

Plus as others have said, having more points gives you a lot more options

 

[Chili327]

A while back, I do remember putting in alerts with some brokers but honestly can't even remember who or what I put in.

I'm sure some can't be linked here....but if you guys can tell me the top ones I should put in alerts with, that would be great. (Just use links so the filter will catch things not allowed.)

www.DvcForLess.com should be plenty of notifications and coverage.

 

[intamin]

Commissions of 9.25% to sell current points are a killer….

Them advertisements ain't gonna pay for themselves.. but yeah exactly why like I said if I'm OP I'd rather buy a less than ideal add on contract than reselling my original contract and then turning around and buying a larger contract.

 

[ClaraOswald]

Too bad I don't want a larger contract since some popped up at $215pp.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Too bad I don't want a larger contract since some popped up at $215pp.

A 3rd route is to constantly check with a guide who is willing to look for direct VGC points. They sell 2-3 contracts a month according to @ehh.

 

[juliebee]

A 3rd route is to constantly check with a guide who is willing to look for direct VGC points. They sell 2-3 contracts a month according to @ehh.

Do you know the average sizes of those 2-3 direct contracts per month for VGC? Just wondering if they are small or larger. Like the one you mentioned earlier for 38 points, is a bit small to do anything with, so wasn't tempting to me.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Do you know the average sizes of those 2-3 direct contracts per month for VGC? Just wondering if they are small or larger. Like the one you mentioned earlier for 38 points, is a bit small to do anything with, so wasn't tempting to me.

No idea, @ehh is the one who tracks the data.

I think small ones are great add on contracts. It can help you to squeeze out an extra night….

 

[ehh]

No idea, @ehh is the one who tracks the data.

I think small ones are great add on contracts. It can help you to squeeze out an extra night….

I didn't actually keep track of them, but I had to find them each month to discard them from the VDH data. In retrospect, wish I had now that the data has been limited.

If my memory is correct, they often were on the smedium side, in the 50-100 range.

 

[Chili327]

Do you know the average sizes of those 2-3 direct contracts per month for VGC? Just wondering if they are small or larger. Like the one you mentioned earlier for 38 points, is a bit small to do anything with, so wasn't tempting to me.

38pts gets you 3 nights every other year at the right time of year.

 

[ClaraOswald]

Last night, I was talking to my husband about the Villas at the Disneyland Hotel. In the past, we've only really talked about them briefly and pretty much know that we'd always pick VGC over VDH. A bit reason is location. But we also love the vibe and Craftsman style.

I was showing him the maps from other threads that showed the walking distance to the gates. Then I was telling him how direct prices for VGC jumped from $310 to $330. He said "Isn't direct for VDH similar?" I said I honestly had no idea.

So I searched and told him that they are actually $245 a point. (I did tell him the dues were higher and you have to pay nightly tax.)

This was basically him:



It was late and that was pretty much the extent of the conversation.

But then I sat down and did some math and honestly, it probably isn't a good choice for us. We'd still want to stay at VGC most of the time. So financially, it probably wouldn't make sense to purchase VDH points if we were only going to use them every 3rd year, essentially. If we could go more often, then it would make sense.

And example of our trip scheduling looks like this (though it can/will change and get tweaked.)

January 2025 - BRV
December 2025 - VGC
June 2026 - VGC
January 2027 - BRV
June 2027 - VGC
January 2028 - BRV
January (or February) 2029 - VGC
January 2030 - BRV
June 2030 - VGC
January 2031 - BRV
June 2031 - VGC

Basically for WDW, we go two year on, one year off. And one that off year, we do a winter DLR trip. I was thinking a winter VDH stay instead of VGC would be good since the walk is farther and it's not that hot out.

But if we'd be banking/borrowing to just have trips in say 2029, 2032, 2035, etc. we wouldn't really need 150 for that. (And obviously the 150 is what would get us member perks plus a better incentive, I think.)

I was thinking we, theoretically, could use overflow points towards our BRV stays and possibly even dump our 50pt contract over there. Combining our 150 BRV point contract with excess VDH points for the BRV stays.

In that scenario, we'd still end up with a total of 460 (150 BRV, 150 VDH, 160 VGC) points....which is what we were thinking we'd end up with eventually (200 BRV, 260 VGC.)

I fear that would just make my head explode though and be way more complicated than I want things to be. Plus the upcharge of nightly tax on VDH stays. And that we'd not likely be able to use those at VGC, which will always be our top choice resort.

And if we wanted to do Christmas-time at Disneyland trips, we'd prefer VGC over VDH, which means one of our summer trips would end up being at VDH....which is kind of "meh" for me with the longer walk in the heat. (Our son doesn't do pool slides so the fancy pool there holds no appeal to us.)

Anyway.....this is just what was bouncing around my head today and I wanted to get it all written out.

 

[Chili327]

Last night, I was talking to my husband about the Villas at the Disneyland Hotel. In the past, we've only really talked about them briefly and pretty much know that we'd always pick VGC over VDH. A bit reason is location. But we also love the vibe and Craftsman style.

I was showing him the maps from other threads that showed the walking distance to the gates. Then I was telling him how direct prices for VGC jumped from $310 to $330. He said "Isn't direct for VDH similar?" I said I honestly had no idea.

So I searched and told him that they are actually $245 a point. (I did tell him the dues were higher and you have to pay nightly tax.)

This was basically him:

View attachment 940726

It was late and that was pretty much the extent of the conversation.

But then I sat down and did some math and honestly, it probably isn't a good choice for us. We'd still want to stay at VGC most of the time. So financially, it probably wouldn't make sense to purchase VDH points if we were only going to use them every 3rd year, essentially. If we could go more often, then it would make sense.

And example of our trip scheduling looks like this (though it can/will change and get tweaked.)

January 2025 - BRV
December 2025 - VGC
June 2026 - VGC
January 2027 - BRV
June 2027 - VGC
January 2028 - BRV
January (or February) 2029 - VGC
January 2030 - BRV
June 2030 - VGC
January 2031 - BRV
June 2031 - VGC

Basically for WDW, we go two year on, one year off. And one that off year, we do a winter DLR trip. I was thinking a winter VDH stay instead of VGC would be good since the walk is farther and it's not that hot out.

But if we'd be banking/borrowing to just have trips in say 2029, 2032, 2035, etc. we wouldn't really need 150 for that. (And obviously the 150 is what would get us member perks plus a better incentive, I think.)

I was thinking we, theoretically, could use overflow points towards our BRV stays and possibly even dump our 50pt contract over there. Combining our 150 BRV point contract with excess VDH points for the BRV stays.

In that scenario, we'd still end up with a total of 460 (150 BRV, 150 VDH, 160 VGC) points....which is what we were thinking we'd end up with eventually (200 BRV, 260 VGC.)

I fear that would just make my head explode though and be way more complicated than I want things to be. Plus the upcharge of nightly tax on VDH stays. And that we'd not likely be able to use those at VGC, which will always be our top choice resort.

And if we wanted to do Christmas-time at Disneyland trips, we'd prefer VGC over VDH, which means one of our summer trips would end up being at VDH....which is kind of "meh" for me with the longer walk in the heat. (Our son doesn't do pool slides so the fancy pool there holds no appeal to us.)

Anyway.....this is just what was bouncing around my head today and I wanted to get it all written out.

I’ve had the VDH bug get in my head a few times too, then I start doing the math, and realize I’d rather just buy CCV or BLT direct then pay extra tax, and if I needed more DLR points I could just add on VGC resale with no restrictions and no tax and be closer to the park. I really don’t dislike VDH, it just doesn’t have enough pull in the pro column for me, otherwise it would be in my list!
Also I’ve gone to DLR my whole life 50+ years and only WDW the last 2 years, so I just feel like I need to spend more time on the east coast to catch up.

 

[ClaraOswald]

I think the main "pros" for VDH for me would be having direct points that we could use at future resorts (the Lakeside one might be right up my alley.) Also, if/when Disneyland Forward happens, VDH becomes a lot more desirable, location-wise. Also, if we had 150 VDH points, we'd be able to use those at WDW after our BRV expires in 2042.

One main bad thing though...the lack of 1-bedrooms at VDH, which is our preferred room type.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Last night, I was talking to my husband about the Villas at the Disneyland Hotel. In the past, we've only really talked about them briefly and pretty much know that we'd always pick VGC over VDH. A bit reason is location. But we also love the vibe and Craftsman style.

I was showing him the maps from other threads that showed the walking distance to the gates. Then I was telling him how direct prices for VGC jumped from $310 to $330. He said "Isn't direct for VDH similar?" I said I honestly had no idea.

So I searched and told him that they are actually $245 a point. (I did tell him the dues were higher and you have to pay nightly tax.)

This was basically him:

View attachment 940726

It was late and that was pretty much the extent of the conversation.

But then I sat down and did some math and honestly, it probably isn't a good choice for us. We'd still want to stay at VGC most of the time. So financially, it probably wouldn't make sense to purchase VDH points if we were only going to use them every 3rd year, essentially. If we could go more often, then it would make sense.

And example of our trip scheduling looks like this (though it can/will change and get tweaked.)

January 2025 - BRV
December 2025 - VGC
June 2026 - VGC
January 2027 - BRV
June 2027 - VGC
January 2028 - BRV
January (or February) 2029 - VGC
January 2030 - BRV
June 2030 - VGC
January 2031 - BRV
June 2031 - VGC

Basically for WDW, we go two year on, one year off. And one that off year, we do a winter DLR trip. I was thinking a winter VDH stay instead of VGC would be good since the walk is farther and it's not that hot out.

But if we'd be banking/borrowing to just have trips in say 2029, 2032, 2035, etc. we wouldn't really need 150 for that. (And obviously the 150 is what would get us member perks plus a better incentive, I think.)

I was thinking we, theoretically, could use overflow points towards our BRV stays and possibly even dump our 50pt contract over there. Combining our 150 BRV point contract with excess VDH points for the BRV stays.

In that scenario, we'd still end up with a total of 460 (150 BRV, 150 VDH, 160 VGC) points....which is what we were thinking we'd end up with eventually (200 BRV, 260 VGC.)

I fear that would just make my head explode though and be way more complicated than I want things to be. Plus the upcharge of nightly tax on VDH stays. And that we'd not likely be able to use those at VGC, which will always be our top choice resort.

And if we wanted to do Christmas-time at Disneyland trips, we'd prefer VGC over VDH, which means one of our summer trips would end up being at VDH....which is kind of "meh" for me with the longer walk in the heat. (Our son doesn't do pool slides so the fancy pool there holds no appeal to us.)

Anyway.....this is just what was bouncing around my head today and I wanted to get it all written out.

You have to look at the point charts too, not just the ppp.

There are some times of the year where VDH is SIGNIFICANTLY less points than VGC. The first week of Jan and the back half of August in particular have a significant delta.

Of course, that is assuming the school calendar allows.

VGC: https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/media/dvc/catalog/resorts/dvc-resorts/GCAL-2026.pdf
VDH:
https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/media/dvc/catalog/resorts/dvc-resorts/VDH-2026.pdf

Now, also consider than VDH has a $20pp incentive at 100 points. So…. It’s $330 vs $225 at that level.

Now…. throw in a VDH once every 2 years or so in the place of VGC and that allows you to bank up some of your current VGC points so you can get a 1 bedroom every time you go there….

 

[ClaraOswald]

You have to look at the point charts too, not just the ppp.

There are some times of the year where VDH is SIGNIFICANTLY less points than VGC. The first week of Jan and the back half of August in particular have a significant delta.

Of course, that is assuming the school calendar allows.

VGC: https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/media/dvc/catalog/resorts/dvc-resorts/GCAL-2026.pdf
VDH:
https://cdn1.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/media/dvc/catalog/resorts/dvc-resorts/VDH-2026.pdf

Now, also consider than VDH has a $20pp incentive at 100 points. So…. It’s $330 vs $225 at that level.

Now…. throw in a VDH once every 2 years or so in the place of VGC and that allows you to bank up some of your current VGC points so you can get a 1 bedroom every time you go there….

Yeah...though we'd probably want to just do the 150 to get direct benefits. But overall, it's a better "value" than doing more VGC. (Months-wise, we would likely never go beginning of January or late August though.)

However, the main reason we want more points is to always be in a 1-bedroom. And it sounds like those VDH years, we'd be stuck in a studio.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yeah...though we'd probably want to just do the 150 to get direct benefits. But overall, it's a better "value" than doing more VGC. (Months-wise, we would likely never go beginning of January or late August though.)

However, the main reason we want more points is to always be in a 1-bedroom. And it sounds like those VDH years, we'd be stuck in a studio.

I think all villas at VDH are going to be competitive

 

[ClaraOswald]

I feel like it's really crappy if people can't get into their home resort at 11 months.