New Disney Ships: News, Rumors, Speculation.....and Names!

[holula]

SO pleased they have gone for a ship size between Magic class and Dream class!

I would guess one of the new ships would eventually replace the Wonder in Alaska based on the size.

 

[mamaburrito]

Yeah for smaller! This sounds like they are preparing for magic and wonder to be retired though.

 

[holula]

Yeah for smaller! This sounds like they are preparing for magic and wonder to be retired though.

I thought the same, but they could easily have Magic and Wonder doing their 3/4 night Bahamas to put the least amount of miles and stress on them once we have the new ships.

 

[dad of 3 addicted to DCL]

I must admit that I'm surprised at the smaller size.

 

[HokieRaven5]

I’d also just go for one of the smaller ships operating out of a northeast port like NYC/Baltimore/Philadelphia from time to time.

 

[bcwife76]

I must admit that I'm surprised at the smaller size.

I am too! But happily surprised

 

[Lillebelle]

I am too! But happily surprised

Same! Makes sense that they're doing another Wish class ship to buy time to design the next class. Let's hope they've learned from the feedback on the Wish and Treasure (the good and the bad); it at least seems like they've listened to the feedback that some people don't want the mega ship experience! There's hope!

 

[LandonM170]

I really hope with more ships being added that they place them in new areas / areas that are seasonal, but it's hard to know. Having four ships operate in Florida at the same time with three doing Bahamas itineraries and only one doing Eastern Caribbean / week-long Caribbean itineraries is confusing. I would love for Disney to have year-round ports in New York, Galveston, and San Diego, but I feel that is unlikely.

The fact that the ships are going to be 100,000 gross tons and 3,000 people maximum is interesting. I personality don't really have a preference for ship size, but I do like the Magic class the most due to the design and spaces. If it's just the Disney Wish mini then I'm not gonna like them as much. With these new ships being smaller, I am going to plan on doing the Wonder after the Fantasy. I wanted to do the Destiny in May 2026 because the prices weren't bad and I would like to try a Triton class ship and visit Lookout Cay or go to Cozumel, but I need to get on the Wonder before it's gone. I would love to do the Magic again, but the times I'm available I'm not interested in. I really like the 7 Night Western Caribbean from Galveston (Cozumel, Costa Maya, and Progresso) and the Panama Canal (unfortunately even if the time would work it's completely sold out and way too expensive for my budget).

 

[msu2002]

Makes me feel this is the size ship now that will make it through the canal still.

 

[JM_97]

This feels like the beginning of the end of the Disney Magic and Wonder. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but it just feels like the Magic and Wonder will slowly but surely be phased out by the "smaller" new ships.

 

[JM_97]

I thought the same, but they could easily have Magic and Wonder doing their 3/4 night Bahamas to put the least amount of miles and stress on them once we have the new ships.

Perhaps. But whenever it comes time for the Magic and Wonder's farewell tour, Disney will go all out for it.

 

[msu2002]

This feels like the beginning of the end of the Disney Magic and Wonder. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but it just feels like the Magic and Wonder will slowly but surely be phased out by the "smaller" new ships.

Yes, they are dear to our heart but they are not going to last forever that's not realistic. 35 years in 2033? will be pushing it even for how well they have been taken care of and let's not forget Disney rode those two ships hard in the early days before the Dream and Fantasy.

 

[WB1971]

Disney Cruise Line Shares Details on Expanding Fleet

Today, Disney Cruise Line shared more details on the expansion of its award-winning fleet, including the introduction of a new class of vessel and the addition of a fourth ship in the Wish class. These ships, which will debut between 2027 and 2031, will be constructed at the Meyer Werft shipyard in Papenburg, Germany, and designed by Walt Disney Imagineering.

The three vessels in Disney’s new ship class will feature industry-leading technology and design to expand Disney Cruise Line’s global reach and support its environmental goals. Able to carry 3,000 Guests and measuring approximately 100,000 gross tons, they will be 20 percent larger than the Disney Magic class and smaller than the Disney Dream and Disney Wish classes, ultimately allowing Disney Cruise Line to access more ports and destinations across the globe, bringing its world-class entertainment, incredible dining, Guest service, and uniquely Disney experiences to more families in more places. The three ships are planned for delivery in 2029, 2030 and 2031.


Among the lightest cruise ships of their size in the industry, the new vessels will save fuel with a streamlined hull, next-generation power and propulsion systems, and numerous other operations optimized for energy efficiency. In addition to an innovative design and the efficient use of building materials from bow to stern, the ships will be outfitted with energy-efficient systems and a battery system to support and supplement the main engines.

When in port, the new vessels can rely on shore power technology to turn off their engines and “plug in” to a port’s energy grid to run onboard systems. They will also have the capability and flexibility to operate on a variety of fuels, including hydrotreated vegetable oil and renewable methanol fuels, while remaining adaptable to additional fuel options that become available to the cruise industry. The new class will also continue Disney Cruise Line’s long-standing initiatives to minimize waste, conserve water and align with The Walt Disney Company’s 2030 environmental goals.


In addition to this new class of vessel, Disney Cruise Line will introduce an additional sister ship to the Disney Wish (2022), Disney Treasure (2024), and Disney Destiny (2025). The ship, set for delivery in 2027, will be approximately 144,000 gross tons, accommodate 4,000 Guests, and be powered by liquefied natural gas (LNG).

This expansion continues a period of growth for Disney Cruise Line, which currently has a fleet of six ships. The Disney Destiny, which will homeport at Port Everglades, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and the Disney Adventure, which will homeport in Singapore, are slated to set sail in late 2025, and the recently announced relationship with Disney and Oriental Land Co., Ltd. (OLC) will bring Disney cruise vacations to Japan in 2029. Along with these ships, the four detailed today will expand the Disney Cruise Line fleet to a total of 13 by 2031. The four ship names, onboard experiences, itineraries and designs are still in development and will be announced at a later date.

Please DCL give us expanded and improved versions of the Magic class, and not shrunken versions of the Wish class. Please please please. You can basically take all my money if you do.

 

[JM_97]

Yes, they are dear to our heart but they are not going to last forever that's not realistic. 35 years in 2033? will be pushing it even for how well they have been taken care of and let's not forget Disney rode those two ships hard in the early days before the Dream and Fantasy.

Magic went to Europe and back every year for a long time and Wonder has done a lot of different stuff. They may look pristine on the outside but who knows what the bones look like.

I wonder what they will do with the ships once they are retired though.

 

[Cfabar1]

My guess is they will be destroyed, or at least heavily stripped before they are sold.

 

[fflmaster]

Maybe I am reading this differently, but I read this as Disney is not looking to replace existing ships, but to expand in new areas like Asia. I would expect most of these new ships will stay over seas to create a new clientele.

 

[LandonM170]

Maybe I am reading this differently, but I read this as Disney is not looking to replace existing ships, but to expand in new areas like Asia. I would expect most of these new ships will stay over seas to create a new clientele.

You could be right, and I would hope so! I think it lines up for Disney to "replace" the Magic and Wonder. I don't think Disney will name the new ships after the two older ones, but the older ones are going to be 30 years old in 2028 and 2029, which is approaching soon, and the average cruise ship life is about 25-30 years. I think Disney wants to make smaller ships because they know the Magic and Wonder will be missed. Hopefully, that means a return to the classic ocean liner design on the inside of the ships using Art Deco and Art Nouveau styles.

Once again, I hope you're right! I just think it's coming soon, unfortunately.

 

[holula]

Maybe I am reading this differently, but I read this as Disney is not looking to replace existing ships, but to expand in new areas like Asia. I would expect most of these new ships will stay over seas to create a new clientele.

This is how it reads because they push the “13 ships” but how long can they realistically sail the Magic and Wonder for?

I would guess they do have 13 ships for about a year or so to give the last new ship her full inaugural season and then they have a Magic/Wonder farewell year.

 

[OKW Lover]

let's not forget Disney rode those two ships hard in the early days before the Dream and Fantasy.

I'm not understanding this. What made that pre-Dream time more difficult than since then?

My guess is they will be destroyed, or at least heavily stripped before they are sold.

Stripped of Disney touches and sold to some other foreign cruise line. After another 10+ years with that line they would likely be scrapped.

 

[Dug720]

Let's hope they've learned from the feedback on the Wish and Treasure (the good and the bad); it at least seems like they've listened to the feedback that some people don't want the mega ship experience!

And that they learned their lesson in putting an imagineer who'd never been on a cruise before in charge and won't do that again. At least not without sending them on cruises on each class first!