LL Premier Pass is here!

I agree… with the LLPP, we did EVERYTHING in EVERY park, but actually felt relaxed and unstressed by it all, even in the high crowds this week - we did shows, fireworks, every ride…. 2 sit down meals a day (we needed breaks, averaging 23k steps per day). But we all felt it was a wonderful trip. So for me, cost of the passes was worth it.
 
Premier Pass is expanding to offsite guests beginning January 21:

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/lightning-lane-passes/lightning-lane-premier/

Interesting.

I'll keep an eye on this. We go next October/November. We really did like this pass our past trip for both MK and Epcot. But not sure if we will purchase again this trip as we will be there a good number of days and can probably get by with just LLMP and purchasing big rides. And now this makes it that much more stressful - not knowing if we will even be able to get the pass until 7 days before we leave, I didn't like that. Will have to see if passes start selling out now for non-holiday weeks.

I know there is a 7 vs 3 day for resort/non-resort guests, but I was hoping resort guests would get something a bit better as a perk regarding these. What, I don't know, but this isn't it. :D
 
Not that I can afford it, but expanding it to all guests dilutes the value. I doubt that will decrease the price.
How do you see a dilution of value? How is expanding to off-site guests different as compared to 10 guests staying at a Camp Site at Ft. Wilderness? The prices will never decrease just like park admission tickets have never decreased.

Dave
 
How do you see a dilution of value? How is expanding to off-site guests different as compared to 10 guests staying at a Camp Site at Ft. Wilderness? The prices will never decrease just like park admission tickets have never decreased.

Dave
Seems as though the more people who have it, the longer the wait times, no?
 
Seems as though the more people who have it, the longer the wait times, no?
No once a park is sold out that is a fixed number of LLPP holder.

Not by much as the number of passes sold is still capped.
+1

So, you don't think they will increase the number of passes to sell? Legit question, not snark.
They may after running through enough peak holiday periods but who knows since it is still in Pilot mode.

Dave
 
Seems as though the more people who have it, the longer the wait times, no?
Those people were pretty much all already going to buy LLMP.
So really, it's the few rides which are most limited in LLMP/LLSP that will see any difference (for all the other rides, they were already getting on with LLMP).
And it's minimal - do we really think there are thousands of offsite people each day buying this? You're probably looking at a few hundred offsite LLPP purchasers per day. Spread out among all 4 parks. Spread out among all the open hours. For the 3-4 rides in each park that use their whole LL capacity every day. I just don't think that's that big an impact.
 
So, you don't think they will increase the number of passes to sell? Legit question, not snark.
I don't think it will be noticeably different. The wait times for the lightning lanes have been very consistent despite all the changes.
 
I think the bigger worry would be reaching the cap a lot more quickly now. But will see as the months go on.
With resort guests getting a head start on being eligible they shouldn't be affected. It's offsite guests who are most likely to be affected by a sellout.
 
Notice the wording saying "up to 3 days in advance of their park visit" for offsite guests. I wonder if date-based tickets won't be able to purchase for all days 3 days before the start date, unlike LLMP and LLSP.
 
Notice the wording saying "up to 3 days in advance of their park visit" for offsite guests. I wonder if date-based tickets won't be able to purchase for all days 3 days before the start date, unlike LLMP and LLSP.
It is the same as on-site guests with the phrase of "up to 7 days before the first day of their Resort stay". Disney has consistently listed all the new LL offers with the up to x days format. Changing the MDE logic for a unique situation as you wondered is not likely.

It is also the same for LLMP and/or LLSP: "Guests of Disney Resort hotels and other select hotels can purchase passes up to 7 days in advance of their stay—and other Guests can purchase passes up to 3 days in advance of their park visit."

Dave
 
Does anyone know why the LLPP is crossed off for February 9th and 10th? I can purchase LLSP and LLMP for those days, but not a Premier Pass.

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It is the same as on-site guests with the phrase of "up to 7 days before the first day of their Resort stay". Disney has consistently listed all the new LL offers with the up to x days format. Changing the MDE logic for a unique situation as you wondered is not likely.

It is also the same for LLMP and/or LLSP: "Guests of Disney Resort hotels and other select hotels can purchase passes up to 7 days in advance of their stay—and other Guests can purchase passes up to 3 days in advance of their park visit."

Dave
The more I think about it, this is a win-win for Disney.

Given the price point of LLPP, it's may be mostly deluxe resort guests buying anyway, but opening it up to all guests gives better optics.

Anything still available at 3 days was probably going to go unsold, so why not open it up to everyone at that point?
 













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