The stores here must see the need, but they don't/can't fill because they're not allowed to open on Thanksgiving. They, and the shoppers, survive.The stores see a need/want, and they fill it.
They should just call it it "Black November" and run the sales for the whole month and forget this one day nonsense. Then they could be closed on the actual holidays. And people wouldn't act like animals in the store.
I still think tomorrow, after today's sales, many stores' ledgers will go into the black.
Blame your state or local government. If retailers couldn't legally be open on Thanksgiving, they wouldn't be.
No, still blame the lawmakers.
I used to be a mall shopper. I could spend an entire day there. What started happening about 10-12 years ago is I’d go in looking for something and they’d tell me, “You have to go to our online store for that.” I’d ask if they would order it for me and once again they’d tell me to go online. This was long before Prime and two day shipping. Amazon was *just* starting to gain a foothold. So I’d leave mad without what I came for and not too keen on shopping those particular stores when they pretty much turned me away. Grudgingly I’d look at the store online, see high shipping fees and a 10-14 day delivery estimate for something I wanted TODAY. Then I’d check out Amazon. Oh look, if my order is over $25 shipping is free and I’ll get it in 3-5 days. Check this out, no (at the time) taxes! After so many times, I just started going to Amazon. From my point of view those stores pushed me right into Amazon’s arms. They were far too late to the game IMO.No blame Amazon. Because of Amazon about half of them will be out of business in 5 years. Many malls around the country are just getting decimated by Amazon.
Yes. I can't imagine why anyone would want this.And I really don't want the government deciding when the stores can be open.
Not everyone celebrates Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter, with restaurants, bars, and lots of entertainment closed, it can be pretty boring. Movies and shopping opportunities give folks something to do I suppose. Personally, I (my family) don't (doesn't) "celebrate" Easter outside of an excuse to go to the big local cc brunch buffet. The rest of the day is low key whether you want it to be or not. I can always be happy with a book, but it can be boring. So, I think that's a big part of it.
BTW: Starbucks was open today! My family and I had a blast getting a coffee today, it seemed special even though it's something we all do often.
Actually blame the people that shop. If they didn't show up to the stores the stores wouldn't stay open on the holiday.
And I really don't want the government deciding when the stores can be open.
I used to be a mall shopper. I could spend an entire day there. What started happening about 10-12 years ago is I’d go in looking for something and they’d tell me, “You have to go to our online store for that.” I’d ask if they would order it for me and once again they’d tell me to go online. This was long before Prime and two day shipping. Amazon was *just* starting to gain a foothold. So I’d leave mad without what I came for and not too keen on shopping those particular stores when they pretty much turned me away. Grudgingly I’d look at the store online, see high shipping fees and a 10-14 day delivery estimate for something I wanted TODAY. Then I’d check out Amazon. Oh look, if my order is over $25 shipping is free and I’ll get it in 3-5 days. Check this out, no (at the time) taxes! After so many times, I just started going to Amazon. From my point of view those stores pushed me right into Amazon’s arms. They were far too late to the game IMO.
So, because you (your family) have (has) trouble entertaining yourself (yourselves), other people should have to give up time with their families entertain you? I know you didn't mean it quite like that, but something about your post just rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, I know that the argument is always that families can schedule their meal around someone's schedule, but what happens when more than one family member has to work on Thanksgiving and their schedules are opposite one another? And there's always the argument that, well, some people truly have to work (police, medical staff, etc.), so what's the problem with other people working? My answer is that there is a difference between needs and wants. People need EMTs to respond to a medical emergency, they want to go to the movies. To be fair, I'm not saying that I've never taken advantage of non-essential places being open on a holiday once in a while, but I feel guilty and would actually be content if they were closed.
And I really don't want the government deciding when the stores can be open.
I really thought the DIS finally went a year without this argument. People have been working the holidays long before shopping was a thing on Thanksgiving. I can only remember a handful of times my dad (a Chef) was home on the actual holiday and often when he was he’d get called in. My DH and DD both worked yesterday and were happy to do so because it means more $$$ on their paycheck. We made it work. The holidays are what you make of them. I think if people were really honest with themselves they’d admit that their concern isn’t really for those “poor retail workers” but more about how it affects their celebration and schedule. When I was a kid, the church my mother went to had a “no work on Sunday” rule. We’d literally sit around in the dark doing nothing. No power or gas use, no hot meal, no TV. Nothing that would make anyone work. I always think of those days when this argument starts. I’d lay down good money to bet most people who make it aren’t willing to do that. And it wouldn’t make a difference if they were because those people have to work anyway.So, because you (your family) have (has) trouble entertaining yourself (yourselves), other people should have to give up time with their families entertain you? I know you didn't mean it quite like that, but something about your post just rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, I know that the argument is always that families can schedule their meal around someone's schedule, but what happens when more than one family member has to work on Thanksgiving and their schedules are opposite one another? And there's always the argument that, well, some people truly have to work (police, medical staff, etc.), so what's the problem with other people working? My answer is that there is a difference between needs and wants. People need EMTs to respond to a medical emergency, they want to go to the movies. To be fair, I'm not saying that I've never taken advantage of non-essential places being open on a holiday once in a while, but I feel guilty and would actually be content if they were closed.
Lawmakers have no business dictating to retailers. Every time the fiddle around with something the issue becomes even more problematic.
So then you're saying legislators should never have legalized holiday/Sunday retail hours in the first place.