How many of you are hoping to purchase Lakeshore?

[TCRAIG]

Won’t buy because I already own direct at the 3 monorail resorts plus BRV - and I’ll be 70 this year.

 

[juliebee]

I'm really interested in hearing about the point chart and initial cost per point. If the lazy river is like Aulani's or better, then it would be pretty desirable to me. However, the size of the resort does give me pause, we don't need more WDW points, and we don't need a long contract, so in the end it will probably be a no.

 

[Mouseforward]

We know it will be restricted
And 99% chance it will be in the trust to avoid the condo rules for inspection
99% boat and bus like wilderness lodge

We don’t know if the cabins will be attached
We don’t know the point chart or MF

So I am not considering it. It’s too much like WL and I don’t expect the theming to be as good based on PIT

 

[Kailunkat]

I would say that I'm intrigued but there are so many variables and so little information it's hard to say yes right now. Obviously all the issues people have mentioned (Dues, Trust ,Transport, Points chart) are a huge factor. The lazy river/pool complex could be a deciding factor for me (I covet BCV) and the dining options would be a pretty big deal to me too. IF they offer the standalone cabin options that they originally had in the Reflections plans (including the Mojo Dojo Casa Cabungaboats) that would be a pretty serious upside for me too (It doesn't look like they plan on doing any of that anymore but who knows).

 

[ocdb8r1]

Most has already been said. It's all about the Point Charts, expected Annual Dues and whether or not it's combined with CFW. On the latter, this might actually induce us to buy a small contract. We'd like to be able to access CFW at the 11-month mark to bring the dog occassionally, but not at the current annual dues required. If LL get's wrapped into the trust and effectively lowers the annual dues, it could be enough to get us to committ (but even then, we'd probably wait for a resale to come on the market).

As a standalone, I think it will be nice, and the lazy river is very tempting. But there's not enough exciting to justify a contract at this resort on its own. CCV offers what looks to be better theming and what will likely be much better points charts.

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

We bought direct for all our points specifically to be able to get into the new resorts (and because Riviera is our favorite.).

If LSL is as big as planned (900 rooms, IIRC?) then we should be able to get in there at the high point view rooms at seven months.

They really would have to nail the amenities and plus up the transportation to get us to think about buying. Our Riviera and Poly points cover us into our 90s and beyond, so no need for additional years.

If we hadn’t bought in already, we’d be considering it, but we’re totally spoiled with the Skyliner and dedicated buses at Riviera.

 

[zavandor]

It will most probably:

• have very high point charts
• be included in the trust with CFW
• introduce more unique categories, like treehouses and boat houses which will be eye watering expensive
• after it's sold out the point charts will be rebalanced to shift some of those extra points to other categories, CFW will be especially vulnerable to this

This alone would make DLL an hard pass for me, even if I were in the market for more points.

 

[MartyParty]

It will most probably:

• have very high point charts
• be included in the trust with CFW
• introduce more unique categories, like treehouses and boat houses which will be eye watering expensive
• after it's sold out the point charts will be rebalanced to shift some of those extra points to other categories, CFW will be especially vulnerable to this

This alone would make DLL an hard pass for me, even if I were in the market for more points.

Agree.

Curious, what is the thinking on the trust? Resorts no longer stand-alone properties and all in one trust? Different use years or the same? Genuinely curios. I've read a few articles but still don't have in my head the +/- of the trust vs current deed approach. Also, probably +/- for DVC owners that may be different than +/- for DVD company.

 

[Girlstar30]

Agree.

Curious, what is the thinking on the trust? Resorts no longer stand-alone properties and all in one trust? Different use years or the same? Genuinely curios. I've read a few articles but still don't have in my head the +/- of the trust vs current deed approach. Also, probably +/- for DVC owners that may be different than +/- for DVD company.

Everything I've been reading seems like no one really knows what its going to mean for the future which is why im assuming people dont "trust" it. For owners, they may have access to more 11 month booking windows at different resorts which is a huge plus. But then I read that this could shorten length of contracts which is a huge minus for those that come after CFW. Something about tax implications being better for Disney doing it this way and shorter contracts would be way better for them as well. I don't think for a second that this is somehow going to benefit us over Disney...

 

[MartyParty]

Everything I've been reading seems like no one really knows what its going to mean for the future which is why im assuming people dont "trust" it. For owners, they may have access to more 11 month booking windows at different resorts which is a huge plus. But then I read that this could shorten length of contracts which is a huge minus for those that come after CFW. Something about tax implications being better for Disney doing it this way and shorter contracts would be way better for them as well. I don't think for a second that this is somehow going to benefit us over Disney...

Ok, I did a bit more reading around the web on the trust. One item that popped up that could be interesting is it would help support the possibility of more DVC resorts/hotels away from the parks. I know, I know, that's a resounding 'no'. But the thought is if you are buying into a trust of 5+ properties, you're not locking your purchase into a non-theme park location and 11 vs 7 months.

Trust example: Cabins, Lake Lodge, West Coast DVC #3, New York City, and Colorado. It would provide DVD a more flexible selling model to develop / buy locations outside of the theme parks. I'm not saying this is what they're going to do. Not even saying if they did it the flow of vacationers would be great enough to justify non-park locations. It does reduce the notion that you've bought into a non-park location and must always wait to the 7-month mark to book something at the theme parks.

Time will tell...

 

[Girlstar30]

Ok, I did a bit more reading around the web on the trust. One item that popped up that could be interesting is it would help support the possibility of more DVC resorts/hotels away from the parks. I know, I know, that's a resounding 'no'. But the thought is if you are buying into a trust of 5+ properties, you're not locking your purchase into a non-theme park location and 11 vs 7 months.

Trust example: Cabins, Lake Lodge, West Coast DVC #3, New York City, and Colorado. It would provide DVD a more flexible selling model to develop / buy locations outside of the theme parks. I'm not saying this is what they're going to do. Not even saying if they did it the flow of vacationers would be great enough to justify non-park locations. It does reduce the notion that you've bought into a non-park location and must always wait to the 7-month mark to book something at the theme parks.

Time will tell...

More variety of places to stay is always welcome!!

 

[patm95]

Ok, I did a bit more reading around the web on the trust. One item that popped up that could be interesting is it would help support the possibility of more DVC resorts/hotels away from the parks. I know, I know, that's a resounding 'no'. But the thought is if you are buying into a trust of 5+ properties, you're not locking your purchase into a non-theme park location and 11 vs 7 months.

Trust example: Cabins, Lake Lodge, West Coast DVC #3, New York City, and Colorado. It would provide DVD a more flexible selling model to develop / buy locations outside of the theme parks. I'm not saying this is what they're going to do. Not even saying if they did it the flow of vacationers would be great enough to justify non-park locations. It does reduce the notion that you've bought into a non-park location and must always wait to the 7-month mark to book something at the theme parks.

Time will tell...

That sounds like a positive to me.

 

[beccasmom]

Our purchasing days are behind us. But we would consider staying there. We were underwhelmed at RR when it opened, but since staying there it has become a favorite. We like to try newer resorts on occasion, even if only for a night or two.

 

[paults]

Not planning to buy anymore DVC points at these prices.

 

[JackosinDIS]

It doesn’t have the same appeal to me as some of the other resorts I have purchased. That said we are still very early in the process and there may be something which turns my head.

If it’s part of the same trust setup as CFW though I will probably steer clear.

 

[supercarrie]

While I'm excited about a lazy river, I feel like there are already enough "wilderness" themed resorts in the DVC system (and great ones, at that).

As of now, I'm interested in staying there, but not buying.

 

[SL6827]

Wonder just how much a point this place will go for?

 

[davidhr]

• We have enough points already

We don’t need this kind of negativity here

 

[wdwnomad]

I am very receptive to the idea. I think I have one more purchase in me. I hope more information comes out sooner rather than later. Rivera has really been growing on me. If they ever did a fire sale to finally closeout Rivera I would really be tempted to go there.

 

[The Jackal]

I am very receptive to the idea. I think I have one more purchase in me. I hope more information comes out sooner rather than later. Rivera has really been growing on me. If they ever did a fire sale to finally closeout Rivera I would really be tempted to go there.

I’m surprised it hasn’t started yet. DVC is selling direct a whole lot more properties than it ever has. Usually they have two selling and one of those two is almost sold out. Yes you have ignore Aulani, it just doesn’t count. They now have currently 4 and none are really on pace to be sold out before Lakeshore Lodge. RIV could be close if sales pick up.