ClaraOswald
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Feb 12, 2014
I saw 6 contracts this morning but now I'm just seeing 3!
Wow. I'm not surprised though. The VDH announcement was pretty lackluster and disappointing. I had mild interest in adding a small contract (we already have 320 VGC points and 200 BLT points) since we've gone from loving 1 bedrooms to loving 2 bedrooms, LOL (and the 2/3 bathrooms is big for us), but the tax is a big no way. I'm not sure what my number would be on VDH, but it would be well below what they announced. I'm happy to wait and let it all unfold. I benefited by waiting a few months on VGC. I want to say I got my points in the mid to low 90s with incentives. I think they are being aggressive for an economy that is in turmoil and could slip into a recession (if we aren't there already), but maybe they think starting big they'll get all the people that are dying to own at DLR and then if the economy sinks they can adjust.I saw 6 contracts this morning but now I'm just seeing 3!
1) Going to a 2BD with 3 bathrooms ruined us…. I’ll just have to retire a few years laterWow. I'm not surprised though. The VDH announcement was pretty lackluster and disappointing. I had mild interest in adding a small contract (we already have 320 VGC points and 200 BLT points) since we've gone from loving 1 bedrooms to loving 2 bedrooms, LOL (and the 2/3 bathrooms is big for us), but the tax is a big no way. I'm not sure what my number would be on VDH, but it would be well below what they announced. I'm happy to wait and let it all unfold. I benefited by waiting a few months on VGC. I want to say I got my points in the mid to low 90s with incentives. I think they are being aggressive for an economy that is in turmoil and could slip into a recession (if we aren't there already), but maybe they think starting big they'll get all the people that are dying to own at DLR and then if the economy sinks they can adjust.
Same here...with our family, it's so much easier with the 3 baths (or at least 2!) .We stayed at DLH one year and got a 1 bedroom (couldn't get a 2 bedroom), and it was one of the few with an extra half bath. We then assumed all the 1 Bedrooms had a extra half bath. Next trip booked a 1 bedroom under that assumption figuring we'd save a few bucks over a 2 bedroom and discovered, nope, only one bathroom. Not fun.1) Going to a 2BD with 3 bathrooms ruined us…
The bathroom situation is a big + at VDH. I do worry about the availability of the 1 & 2 BD though. I guess that’s why the 11m is needed.Same here...with our family, it's so much easier with the 3 baths (or at least 2!) .We stayed at DLH one year and got a 1 bedroom (couldn't get a 2 bedroom), and it was one of the few with an extra half bath. We then assumed all the 1 Bedrooms had a extra half bath. Next trip booked a 1 bedroom under that assumption figuring we'd save a few bucks over a 2 bedroom and discovered, nope, only one bathroom. Not fun.
We're buying at VDH, one of the biggest deciding factors wasn't balconies, or parking, or the pool, it was whether or not the 1 bedroom has 2 baths! As the kids get older that gets to be essential!
1. Yes, we are the same way. VGC, BLT, Kidani, and maybe VDH. We are a family of 4 (kids now in 20s) and the two bathrooms enable us to use a 1 bedroom as if it were a two bedroom. We do love getting the 2 bedroom to keep the living room useable, but that's in low season when i have extra points or DD brings a guest.1) Going to a 2BD with 3 bathrooms ruined us…. I’ll just have to retire a few years later
2) Amazing purchase in 2009
3) Given that the ToT is baked into whatever VDH has to do, the building/theme/room layouts are set, estimated dues are based on actual projected costs…. what is the ppp that would get you interested? Would it realistically have to be a resale contract?
And what incentive does Disney have to start off with large incentives if they can just rent out the undeclared inventory for ridiculously high cash rates? (IMO, I think this last point makes the case against the economy being in “turmoil”).
One has double points, that should go soon.Now there are two.
The people who picked them up in January, February and March were the real winners.One has double points, that should go soon.
This has been a fascinating time to watch VGC contracts. Anyone who purchased since December has to feel like a genius (disclosure that my wife will tell you it is her mission in life to ensure that I never feel like a genius ).
Good, Better, & Best.You always want a low, a medium, and a high option.
AUL/VDH/VGC
The “DVC Calculator” is the best in my opinion, easiest to use and gives you the most info.Never knew those apps existed, I see a few different ones, is there one you prefer, or are they all about the same?
I hate myself for not just jumping all those small VGC that existed This will be a hard pill to swallow for a while. Perhaps we will get lucky and the opportunity will present itself again!Good, Better, & Best.
And now down to 2 contracts left (one is $335), you guys that picked up VGC over the last few months for under $250 really scored!!!
Now Im not sure if i should buy 50 VDH direct, or wait and hope for a small VGC contract in the near future (or even wait for VDH resale).
The “DVC Calculator” is the best in my opinion, easiest to use and gives you the most info.
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I'm going to disagree. Prices started dropping when VDH was announced. Now the details are out, many potential buyers have been turned off. Disney had to jump through hoops to get this project approved. If there ever is another DVC property, it will be a long time before that happens and it will be nowhere near the vicinity of VGC or VDH. The only thing that will change this is if VDH offers significant incentives.Yeah, I wouldn’t get too worried. VGC spike was visceral panic buying. A perfect storm of anxious VDH buyers who were dealt a stinky egg all squeezed through a bottleneck of 48 hours of rushed buying. While DVC inventory ebbs and flows, I see inventory is building once again with ~2k on market. All non-Anaheim resorts are still steadily falling in price after plateauing the past 6-8 weeks.
Once the VDH anxiety wears off and people digest it, it’ll be like any other thing Disney does that people hate then internalize, adapt, and accept. Plus I still have a $100pp BLT prediction I need to come true. Looks like I’m $20-30 away. The economy continues to recede—credit is shrinking dramatically. That negatively impacts DVC resale.
Not sure id call the last few months plateauing, but i hope you’re right and the prices come down farther over the next year.Yeah, I wouldn’t get too worried. VGC spike was visceral panic buying. A perfect storm of anxious VDH buyers who were dealt a stinky egg all squeezed through a bottleneck of 48 hours of rushed buying. While DVC inventory ebbs and flows, I see inventory is building once again with ~2k on market. All non-Anaheim resorts are still steadily falling in price after plateauing the past 6-8 weeks.
Once the VDH anxiety wears off and people digest it, it’ll be like any other thing Disney does that people hate then internalize, adapt, and accept. Plus I still have a $100pp BLT prediction I need to come true. Looks like I’m $20-30 away. The economy continues to recede—credit is shrinking dramatically. That negatively impacts DVC resale.
Stalled a better word?Not sure id call the last few months plateauing, but i hope you’re right and the prices come down farther over the next year.
I blocked that poster after all of their “the economy is Wile Coyote” posts that flooded multiple threads. I’m guessing it’s just more of the same doom and gloom.Not sure id call the last few months plateauing, but i hope you’re right and the prices come down farther over the next year.
I think the prices have been dropping for months, but maybe stabilizing now.?Stalled a better word?
Contracts shot up to almost 3k in Jan/Feb, drew down to 1.8k and prices were stabilizing/stalling/plateauing the past 6-8 weeks. Now inventory is building again and prices are starting to ease after “plateauing” for a couple months.
Maybe other people are seeing things differently, but from what I could tell the prices have been hanging stable for about 2 months, but now appear to be resuming the downward trend.
RIV I’m seeing stuff low/mid $120s. That was rather uncommon to see, and if you did, it was a lone contract. Now there are 6-8 listings any given day priced there with room for negotiation.