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[Brian Noble]

There really aren't many ads on TV for movies outside of the ones we already know.

...and if you aren't subscribed to linear TV, then....

 

[RivShore]

...and if you aren't subscribed to linear TV, then....

We'll all be watching ads on streamers soon enough, as they raise ad-free to ridiculous rates.
We already have Hulu and Amazon with ads, and ready to downgrade to Netflix with ads since their ad-free has gone up so much.

At least with linear, the DVR's 30 second skip button made commercials disappear. I said a while ago that at some point Linear will seem like a value given the constant streaming price increases and adds of ads. Back to the future, we may go!

 

[afan]

...and if you aren't subscribed to linear TV, then....

But I am and I'm still not seeing ads for movies that are original or if I am it's not enough to make me interested. I watch mostly live TV during the day when I work from home. The evening is a combo of things. I was GMA the 3 mornings I work from home and even there the movie promotion isn't as good as it used to be.

I think inside out 2 was the last movie I saw in the theatre, I don't think there was anything else last summer that I saw. My next movie is a special event screening and q&a. Kevin Smith is touring Dogma now that he's got the rights back. No idea what my next new movie in the theatre will be. Haven't seen enough of the F1 movie to see if it'll be worth it couldn't say what else original or sequel is coming out in the next few months.

 

[Brian Noble]

I would rather gouge out my eyes than subscribe to a streaming service with ads. If that means subscribing to fewer of them, fine.

I will also note that I've been doing a lot more reading lately, courtesy my local library's online catalog.

 

[HokieRaven5]

Right, the studios aren't marketing as aggressively for these films, then wonder why awareness is so low. I actually thought The Amateur looked pretty good, but I had no idea it came out this wekened, and I even had to look back at the article to remember the actual name - I think of it as that one with the CIA desk-job guy - because they haven't really hammered that home.

It’s also technically a remake of a 1981 film that Christopher Plummer was in.

 

[BrianL]

But I am and I'm still not seeing ads for movies that are original or if I am it's not enough to make me interested. I watch mostly live TV during the day when I work from home. The evening is a combo of things. I was GMA the 3 mornings I work from home and even there the movie promotion isn't as good as it used to be.

I think inside out 2 was the last movie I saw in the theatre, I don't think there was anything else last summer that I saw. My next movie is a special event screening and q&a. Kevin Smith is touring Dogma now that he's got the rights back. No idea what my next new movie in the theatre will be. Haven't seen enough of the F1 movie to see if it'll be worth it couldn't say what else original or sequel is coming out in the next few months.

I still have linear and I agree that there just aren't that many commercials for movies - at least not as many as there used to be!

 

[BrianL]

We'll all be watching ads on streamers soon enough, as they raise ad-free to ridiculous rates.
We already have Hulu and Amazon with ads, and ready to downgrade to Netflix with ads since their ad-free has gone up so much.

At least with linear, the DVR's 30 second skip button made commercials disappear. I said a while ago that at some point Linear will seem like a value given the constant streaming price increases and adds of ads. Back to the future, we may go!

Eventually linear will be streaming. There will be more bundles with mandatory ads. If that sounds a lot like cable TV, well....

 

[BrianL]

It’s also technically a remake of a 1981 film that Christopher Plummer was in.

Wow, I had no idea about that one.

 

[HokieRaven5]

Wow, I had no idea baout that one.

Yeah the author of the book was on the screenplay for that one, not this modern take on it.

 

[RivShore]

I would rather gouge out my eyes than subscribe to a streaming service with ads. If that means subscribing to fewer of them, fine.

I will also note that I've been doing a lot more reading lately, courtesy my local library's online catalog.

I would rather just go back to linear with a skippable DVR once the steaming bill gets close to it. That would also eliminate one of my frustrations with streaming - never knowing when an episode or new season comes out. With a cloud DVR, it just magically records it for you and there it is.

 

[Brian Noble]

Eventually linear will be streaming.

That's how I've been subscribing to linear channels since about 2018---mostly via Fubo. It is essentially cable/satellite, with a veneer of on-demand on top of it. I chose Fubo mostly because the only reason I care about linear TV is live sports, and Fubo is one of the dominant players in that space if not the dominant player.

But this past year I realized I was not really watching $20/week worth of live sports even in-season, and that's about what it costs. This upcoming year I am going to skip it entirely and see how that works for me. That's a pretty radical change, but one that feels overdue.

 

[Brian Noble]

Semi-relatedly, we started watching Your Friends and Neighbors last night. The question arose: when did Apple become HBO?

It's a good question. The last three "seasons" of a show I completed were Severance, Silo, and Andor. I still haven't seen the most recent season of Umbrella Academy, and that will probably be worth a watch too. But the last Netflix season I finished in its entirety was Wednesday---more than a year ago.

 

[RivShore]

But the last Netflix season I finished in its entirety was Wednesday---more than a year ago

That's our reluctance to keep paying up for ad-free - we only watch a few series a year and maybe a movie or two. I'd love to just pay for a few months and then shut them down when we are all caught up, but that seems like a giant pain in the neck.

Apple TV really is full of quality, we only had it for one of their free promotions but enjoyed everything we did watch. Severance is right up my alley, premise wise, but we did not watch it because there was just one season available at the time. Will have to join again soon to watch it.

I had held out hope, given the long time Disney/Apple connection, that Apple TV would join D+ as their "premium" streamer, at a nice low add-on cost, but I guess Apple is happy to stay it's own (very) little thing.

 

[Obi-J Kenobi]

Right, the studios aren't marketing as aggressively for these films, then wonder why awareness is so low. I actually thought The Amateur looked pretty good, but I had no idea it came out this wekened, and I even had to look back at the article to remember the actual name - I think of it as that one with the CIA desk-job guy - because they haven't really hammered that home.

Of course, one thing that raises awareness about movies is going to the movies! That's what previews, posters, and all those big cardboard standees are for. If you go a lot, you will see that stuff all the time and it reinforces what movies are coming out.

You are aware The Amateur is a remake, correct? I'm not sure if the point you are making is marketing original movie or Hollywood marketing in general.

 

[BrianL]

You are aware The Amateur is a remake, correct? I'm not sure if the point you are making is marketing original movie or Hollywood marketing in general.

Well, both. They have absolutely cut back on marketing, but it is easier when a movie is tied to a major franchise as they may not require as much marketing for awareness to be high. That said, if nobody really knows that The Amateur is a remake, it barely counts as one. Either way, despite some advertising, I was not aware that it had actually been released.

 

[fatmanatee]

Hadn't heard of The Amateur until today, neither this version nor the original.

 

[BrianL]

Hadn't heard of The Amateur until today, neither this version nor the original.

Which illustrates the problem well.

 

[Brian Noble]

Apple TV

I would probably not subscribe to it as a stand-alone service. But, the overall Apple One bundle is a pretty good deal for me--I use everything in it except Arcade---and the family plan is generous.

 

[RivShore]

I would probably not subscribe to it as a stand-alone service. But, the overall Apple One bundle is a pretty good deal for me--I use everything in it except Arcade---and the family plan is generous.

I'll have to check out the bundle, thanks for the tip.

 

[wabbott]

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