Concert Cell Phone Ban

[Pacolovestacos]

Couldn't someone just bring an actual camera or go pro to record the video?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Couldn't someone just bring an actual camera or go pro to record the video?

There was a person who Go Pro'd the Star Wars fireworks at DHS..so yeah people do bring those in and because they are smaller I'm sure they are easier to hold for longer periods of time.

 

[Hikergirl]

Couldn't someone just bring an actual camera or go pro to record the video?

Of course, people have been sneaking cameras into venues long before there were cell phones. If someone has the goal to record a concert they'll just get sneaky about it, or even do it out in the open because they don't give a you know what.

 

[LSUmiss]

What’s sad is that any of this is even being considered b/c ppl refuse to follow the rules & be courteous.

 

[PollyannaMom]

The thing with the artists being upset with it is, why now? The time to have set those standards has long passed IMO.

That is a good point. But I think any technology gets ahead of itself - development proceeds faster than the rules for use. (Think about people who regretted working on the first nuclear bombs, or quick advances in medical technology that then run into ethical concerns.) It's the old "just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should" thing. We figure out how to do things, so we do them...then we realize maybe we should have thought about it a little more first.

Obviously, this isn't as big a deal as those examples. But I think it follows a similar pattern. We've got these devices that can do so much, so we use them for everything, and then slowly realize what we've lost in the process.

 

[Imzadi]

Put it on your ticket that you don't want video taping (as that appears to be the largest issue) if that's your problem and then kick out the people you see doing that as you see them. You won't get all the people with larger venues but you will get some.

I think that might be part of the problem. Only getting some. I would think and hope these performers had already asked people to not record their performances. But there are always some who haven't & won't comply. They cause a problem as then others wonder why they should comply with the rules/wishes of the performers when others, who they can clearly see around them, are videoing the performances.

There will be the Entitled, who, just because they are there and have a camera think they have a right to film things, no matter what.

Then there are the Spechul Snowflakes, who very well think others should follow the rules. But the rules don't apply to them.

Then there will be the Defiant people. "You telling me I can't do ___? I'll show YOU."

Then some will do it as a Dare. They want to see if they can get away with it.

And some people get their self-worth & significance from how many Facebook & Twitter followers & likes they receive. So they want to be the only one, or one of the few who get a video of the performance and will post it until they get a cease & desist letter about copyright infringement.

There are probably others. As you can tell, I haven't thought this through very much.

It also doesn't appear to be just a video taping/copyright issue but almost hurt feelings issue where the artist wants people to pay attention to them.

You and another poster make this sound like a bad, shameful thing. If you created something, even if it was a homemade birthday cake and you were proud of how you frosted it and how it tasted, you'd want the person it was for to pay some attention to it. If you completed a project at work that took a long time and you were pleased with how it came out, wouldn't you'd want your boss & coworkers to recognize your work?

But, Adele can't ask a person to please be present and be with her while she's singing in person to them? Maybe she wants people to actually be there for HER and not because she's "famous" and people want to show off they are at an event of a famous person.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think that might be part of the problem. Only getting some. I would think and hope these performers had already asked people to not record their performances. But there are always some who haven't & won't comply. They cause a problem as then others wonder why they should comply with the rules/wishes of the performers when others, who they can clearly see around them, are videoing the performances.

There will be the Entitled, who, just because they are there and have a camera think they have a right to film things, no matter what.

Then there are the Spechul Snowflakes, who very well think others should follow the rules. But the rules don't apply to them.

Then there will be the Defiant people. "You telling me I can't do ___? I'll show YOU."

Then some will do it as a Dare. They want to see if they can get away with it.

And some people get their self-worth & significance from how many Facebook & Twitter followers & likes they receive. So they want to be the only one, or one of the few who get a video of the performance and will post it until they get a cease & desist letter about copyright infringement.

There are probably others. As you can tell, I haven't thought this through very much.

Well I don't like to throw around 'entitled' or 'special snowflakes'. But defiant is sorta strange too but anyways.

It's the brakes of the ball game. Not every person adheres to the rules. That's pretty darn normal and has been happening forever. What you do about said issue means quite a lot. Someone uses their phone to video tape after they are told not to and you catch them? Just escort them out. No need to go to extremes.

You and another poster make this sound like a bad, shameful thing. If you created something, even if it was a homemade birthday cake and you were proud of how you frosted it and how it tasted, you'd want the person it was for to pay some attention to it. If you completed a project at work that took a long time and you were pleased with how it came out, wouldn't you'd want your boss & coworkers to recognize your work?

The truth is artists thrive on publicity. It is usually true that early on in one's career you depend a lot on word of mouth to get yourself recognized. An artist just starting out is less likely (though may still have issues) with having someone take a picture or video tape them. I mean how great would it be if someone saw so and so's video and decided to buy their music or buy a ticket to their concert the next time they were around or go to another city to see it.

There's nothing wrong with an artist requesting no video taping and I would def. respect their wish to request that but demanding by locking people's phones up or disabling them is a lot different. And again not every artist is against cell phone usage. Some even request you do so. Are they wrong then for be ok with that? I mean it is still their 'homemade birthday cake'.

But, Adele can't ask a person to please be present and be with her while she's singing in person to them? Maybe she wants people to actually be there for HER and not because she's "famous" and people want to show off they are at an event of a famous person.

As mentioned above of course she can request and if she puts on her tickets or the venue has an active policy against cell phone usage then when one is found to be going against that they can be escorted out. But again there are people who go to concerts drunk or high or pay no mind to the actual event going on. Cell phones are not the only thing out there causing one to not be 'present'.

 

[Kitty 34]

I can watch a bazillion videos of say Dierks Bentley in concert but that will NO way stop me from going to his concert.

 

[PlainJane]

I have a small child. I’m not going to put my child and whoever is watching my child in a position where I cannot be reached if there is an issue/emergency.

I also am a bit germaphobic about where that pouch has been before it gets to me. Do they wash them between guests?

My husband and I barely take any photos or videos when at concerts. Mostly we’ll take a “date” picture because it’s nice to have something to look back on. We wouldn’t have an issue respecting a band requesting no pictures/recordings, but I’m not disabling my phone.

Comedy shows and theatrical performances are a different situation to me, with a different set of norms. I would think it odd if someone started recording or taking pictures during the performance.

 

[Imzadi]

And again not every artist is against cell phone usage. Some even request you do so. Are they wrong then for be ok with that? I mean it is still their 'homemade birthday cake'.

Of course it's not wrong if some artists want to be videoed or photographed & posted to social media.

It's also not wrong for some to NOT want to be videoed or photographed as you insinuated, because others do want it.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Of course it's not wrong if some artists want to be videoed or photographed & posted to social media.

It's also not wrong for some to NOT want to be videoed or photographed as you insinuated, because others do want it.

Where the heck did I insinuate that? I think you're reading into my comments what you want.

Me saying hurt feelings isn't me saying "it's wrong of the artist to request to request no video taping". Good lord.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

I have attended shows where artists ask not to be videoed - Chrissie Hynde comes to mind. Signs on the door of the chicago theater, an announcement beforehand, and the minute she takes the stage, idiots brought their phones out. You just cannot fix stupid. Ushers asked everyone to put their phones away and from what I could see people complied. During the last song, she said people could record her/photograph her.

I am somewhat surprised by the people who insist they will take a call during a performance, show or a movie because it might be an emergency. Yes, life is all about you.

 

[sam_gordon]

I am somewhat surprised by the people who insist they will take a call during a performance, show or a movie because it might be an emergency. Yes, life is all about you.

Except no one has said that. I think everyone has said they would step out to take a call, but they want to be able to be reached. Your 16 year old teen driver is in a car wreck. Do you want them to call you immediately or are you ok with finding out in 2-3 hours?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I have attended shows where artists ask not to be videoed - Chrissie Hynde comes to mind. Signs on the door of the chicago theater, an announcement beforehand, and the minute she takes the stage, idiots brought their phones out. You just cannot fix stupid. Ushers asked everyone to put their phones away and from what I could see people complied. During the last song, she said people could record her/photograph her.

That's contradictory for her to do that.

So let me understand this:

There are signs on the doors and an annoucement not to use phones.

You call the people who take out the phones when they aren't supposed to idiots? I wouldn't call them idiots as clearly she's ok with phone usage when she wants to. I would just say those people are disregarding the rules. But it's quite contradictory for signs to be up and an annoucement to be made, ushers requesting people to put their phones away and then suddenly because it just happens to be the last song all the previous hubbub about phones is thrown out the window?

 

[anniemae]

My first thought was what about an emergency. Then when a poster brought up the fact that we never had cell phones as kids and somehow got by got me thinking how much we rely on cell phones. As kids, we went to school, the mall, movies, out with friends etc. and had no way for our parents to get in contact with us.

If your parents went out to dinner and left you with a sitter, the sitter would have to call the restaurant if they were needed. Also, parents tended to "check in" with the sitter by calling to see if everything was okay before going somewhere like a concert. Really gets you thinking about how attached we are to our phones. Even in jobs, there was not the technology to really work from home, or be available 24/7. You would have a beeper if you were on call.

I don't think this policy would go over well, we are simply too attached to our phones now a days, and we have the expectation of instant access to each other.

 

[wenrob]

My first thought was what about an emergency. Then when a poster brought up the fact that we never had cell phones as kids and somehow got by got me thinking how much we rely on cell phones. As kids, we went to school, the mall, movies, out with friends etc. and had no way for our parents to get in contact with us.

If your parents went out to dinner and left you with a sitter, the sitter would have to call the restaurant if they were needed. Also, parents tended to "check in" with the sitter by calling to see if everything was okay before going somewhere like a concert. Really gets you thinking about how attached we are to our phones. Even in jobs, there was not the technology to really work from home, or be available 24/7. You would have a beeper if you were on call.

I don't think this policy would go over well, we are simply too attached to our phones now a days, and we have the expectation of instant access to each other.

Back then there were phones everywhere to use. Nowadays not so much. I don’t think you’d have much luck trying to page or call someone at a venue these days. My parents knew where my friends lived and *I* was supposed to check in with *them.* Didn’t always happen and you can be sure there was a price to pay when I didn’t.

 

[Southernmiss]

Back then there were phones everywhere to use. Nowadays not so much. I don’t think you’d have much luck trying to page or call someone at a venue these days. My parents knew where my friends lived and *I* was supposed to check in with *them.* Didn’t always happen and you can be sure there was a price to pay when I didn’t.

Yep. My mom got in the car and looked for me when my now dh and I missed curfew by 20 minutes. Oh boy! A simple text -running late - would have solved so much.

 

[PollyannaMom]

...we are simply too attached to our phones now a days, and we have the expectation of instant access to each other.

Which probably does as much harm as good. But you're right - I don't see people going back.

 

[CarolAnn856]

My first thought was what about an emergency. Then when a poster brought up the fact that we never had cell phones as kids and somehow got by got me thinking how much we rely on cell phones. As kids, we went to school, the mall, movies, out with friends etc. and had no way for our parents to get in contact with us.

If your parents went out to dinner and left you with a sitter, the sitter would have to call the restaurant if they were needed. Also, parents tended to "check in" with the sitter by calling to see if everything was okay before going somewhere like a concert. Really gets you thinking about how attached we are to our phones. Even in jobs, there was not the technology to really work from home, or be available 24/7. You would have a beeper if you were on call.

I don't think this policy would go over well, we are simply too attached to our phones now a days, and we have the expectation of instant access to each other.

I'm always amazed when people pull out the tired old "but we lived without it before" argument. Yeah, we did. So what? I'm grateful for cell phones and the convenience they give. Why are things that make our lives easier or less stressful automatically bad to some people? Sure, it's a shame that some people misuse them, but that doesn't make the devices inherently evil.

 

[anniemae]

I'm always amazed when people pull out the tired old "but we lived without it before" argument. Yeah, we did. So what? I'm grateful for cell phones and the convenience they give. Why are things that make our lives easier or less stressful automatically bad to some people? Sure, i's a shame that some people misuse them, but that doesn't make the devices inherently evil.

Oh I agree, we have come a long way and it's not all bad. I just get a kick out of reminiscing how we did things as kids vs. how kids do things now. Years from now, I wonder what our kids will say. "When I was a kid, we only had CELL PHONES, can you believe it????"