Both Water Parks in the summer?

Making me reconsider not going down for a few nights for just the water parks now. So maybe it wasn't a staffing issue after all and a cost cutting opportunity?
 
Making me reconsider not going down for a few nights for just the water parks now. So maybe it wasn't a staffing issue after all and a cost cutting opportunity?
exactly this...it was ALWAYS a cost cutting measure and not staffing(outside of maybe peak covid) We are very happy to finally be able to go back to Blizzard on our summer trip
 
exactly this...it was ALWAYS a cost cutting measure and not staffing(outside of maybe peak covid) We are very happy to finally be able to go back to Blizzard on our summer trip
And I was actually given Disney the benefit of the doubt with this one. Guess I was wrong, cost cutting most likely it.
 
There is a 99% chance of both TL and BB parks not being open at the same time. BB will close on April 30 at the end of the day and TL will open on May 1.

Dave
This is NOT an April Fool's joke... 1% happened. It will be 100% of the parks opening this summer.
 
exactly this...it was ALWAYS a cost cutting measure and not staffing(outside of maybe peak covid) We are very happy to finally be able to go back to Blizzard on our summer trip
No it was and still is a staffing issue. Notice the time period May 21 - Sept. 7 which is tied to seasonal hires of College / High School students minimum age 18. Disney now even provides Lifeguard training that CMs must pass to get more applicants in the "pool" of candidates.

Dave
 
exactly this...it was ALWAYS a cost cutting measure and not staffing(outside of maybe peak covid) We are very happy to finally be able to go back to Blizzard on our summer trip
100% Get the staffing issue during Covid, but definitely not for 5 years (that's ridiculous). They certainly could have made it a priority if they wanted to, but they didn't feel it was worth it/needed to, so they chose not to. That's of course their right as a business, but for ppl. to. try to convince others that a company as big as Disney had no choice in the matter and couldn't figure how to staff it when so many other much smaller companies (ie less resources) found a way is just foolishness.

As with 99% of things in life it's all what one chooses to prioritize and your bang for your buck so to speak.

Disney has decided this year they want to try out having both open for the summer again and then will close 1 during the off season just as they always have. It may not be the exact same dates but the premise is the same.
 
100% Get the staffing issue during Covid, but definitely not for 5 years (that's ridiculous). They certainly could have made it a priority if they wanted to, but they didn't feel it was worth it/needed to, so they chose not to. That's of course their right as a business, but for ppl. to. try to convince others that a company as big as Disney had no choice in the matter and couldn't figure how to staff it when so many other much smaller companies (ie less resources) found a way is just foolishness.

As with 99% of things in life it's all what one chooses to prioritize and your bang for your buck so to speak.

Disney has decided this year they want to try out having both open for the summer again and then will close 1 during the off season just as they always have. It may not be the exact same dates but the premise is the same.
Absolutely. They managed to keep them both open for 20 years then used covid as an excuse to save a few bucks. We could name 15 other things they cut using the same excuse when all along its just them being cheap. Yet I will still go every year...lol
 
100% Get the staffing issue during Covid, but definitely not for 5 years (that's ridiculous). They certainly could have made it a priority if they wanted to, but they didn't feel it was worth it/needed to, so they chose not to. That's of course their right as a business, but for ppl. to. try to convince others that a company as big as Disney had no choice in the matter and couldn't figure how to staff it when so many other much smaller companies (ie less resources) found a way is just foolishness.

As with 99% of things in life it's all what one chooses to prioritize and your bang for your buck so to speak.

Disney has decided this year they want to try out having both open for the summer again and then will close 1 during the off season just as they always have. It may not be the exact same dates but the premise is the same.

Absolutely. They managed to keep them both open for 20 years then used covid as an excuse to save a few bucks. We could name 15 other things they cut using the same excuse when all along its just them being cheap. Yet I will still go every year...lol

There was and is a very real lifeguard shortage in the US and this has been the case ever since covid. Disney are not the only ones affected by it either, even many local municipalities have had to limit or even entirely cut access to public pools.

I promise you this is not Disney using covid as an excuse to do cost cutting. This has been a thing for ages and very well documented. The American Lifeguard Association has been sounding the alarm on this for years now. And it's still a challenge in 5 years out.

https://americanlifeguardassociatio...e-lifeguard-shortage-and-how-to-address-them/
 
There was and is a very real lifeguard shortage in the US and this has been the case ever since covid. Disney are not the only ones affected by it either, even many local municipalities have had to limit or even entirely cut access to public pools.

I promise you this is not Disney using covid as an excuse to do cost cutting. This has been a thing for ages and very well documented. The American Lifeguard Association has been sounding the alarm on this for years now. And it's still a challenge in 5 years out.

https://americanlifeguardassociatio...e-lifeguard-shortage-and-how-to-address-them/
I can understand that, but I still find it hard to believe they found an entire water parks worth of lifeguards and couldn't do that in years past. We are talking about probably over a 100 lifeguards not a couple for the community pool. And if that's the case I applaud them because I'm very excited both are open.
 
I can understand that, but I still find it hard to believe they found an entire water parks worth of lifeguards and couldn't do that in years past. We are talking about probably over a 100 lifeguards not a couple for the community pool. And if that's the case I applaud them because I'm very excited both are open.

Most likely they bumped up pay and sign on bonuses the same way they did with Housekeeping in addition to ramping the CP back up. They relied heavily on CP to fill lifeguard roles. Also, those roles are shared between the resorts and the water parks and there's a certain number that have to be deployed at a given time bc of the safety key. They literally didn't have enough to keep them both open on top of staffing all the resort feature pools. I remember talking to a lifeguard (before the pool opened ofc!) at SAB a couple years ago who mentioned he normally worked at BB.
 
No it was and still is a staffing issue. Notice the time period May 21 - Sept. 7 which is tied to seasonal hires of College / High School students minimum age 18. Disney now even provides Lifeguard training that CMs must pass to get more applicants in the "pool" of candidates.

Dave

I do wonder if utilization of the free water parks on day 1 of a resort stay was higher than they anticipated or was starting to trend higher.
 














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