Disney School Trip-Sick Child-School Policies ??

[Hikergirl]

Nope, not at all. I mentioned I would have already heard from other parents more on the story. You must be getting dizzy by now with all the .

Oh, "as presented" meant the story presented by you and not what the OP said.
Nice backtracking there.

 

[because]

Not every parent is out to screw the coach and the team.

That is very true.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe the dd did feel better, maybe they didn't know she was really sick, maybe she thought it was due to over indulging while at WDW. They go to the park, and it turns out she really is sick and now they know for sure.
Not every parent is out to screw the coach and the team.

Yup. I'm not even going to go into how many times (probably 3) I've sent my kids to school thinking they were better or that they over exaggerating their illness just to get a call from the nurse within 2 hours of school starting to pick them up. OOPS! It happens.

 

[because]

Yup. I'm not even going to go into how many times (probably 3) I've sent my kids to school thinking they were better or that they over exaggerating their illness just to get a call to pick them up. OOPS! It happens.

You send them to school when they have actively vomited in front of you in the morning? Your children are over exaggerating their illnesses when they are vomiting?

You wouldn't call the school the first time they vomited to let them know they were sick?

You would go out all day and do fun things with them while they were vomiting and then call an hour before the bell rings and say they are sick and expect an excused absence?

 

[MamaBelle4]

I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe the dd did feel better, maybe they didn't know she was really sick, maybe she thought it was due to over indulging while at WDW. They go to the park, and it turns out she really is sick and now they know for sure.
Not every parent is out to screw the coach and the team.

I give OP a little bit of benefit as well. DD5 will vomit in the morning if she hasn't had enough to eat before bed. Usually a bit of sugar in the morning (usually in the form of cinnamon sugar toast and some juice) and she is fine. I've had her tested for diabetes and what not but it is just some quirk of hers I guess. If she said she was feeling fine and good to go, I'd likely take her.

What I don't understand, however, is how they were "forced" to stay until 10pm when they were both staying on Disney property.

 

[because]

I give OP a little bit of benefit as well. DD5 will vomit in the morning if she hasn't had enough to eat before bed. Usually a bit of sugar in the morning (usually in the form of cinnamon sugar toast and some juice) and she is fine. I've had her tested for diabetes and what not but it is just some quirk of hers I guess. If she said she was feeling fine and good to go, I'd likely take her.

What I don't understand, however, is how they were "forced" to stay until 10pm when they were both staying on Disney property.

The only difference there is the daughter got sick again and they went back to the parks till 7pm. Only THEN they were too sick to go back to the team.

I would need to know if there was a team bonding or other team activity that was planned during that time that necessitated the OP's daughter to be there. Again, I am coming from "my" jaded experience. But we release our athletes as soon as awards are over, so we wouldn't run into this problem. We wouldn't have a whole day till 10pm where there was nothing to do with the competition but there were requirements to stay with the team. Anyone is free to leave as soon as all team commitments are completed.

And this is a high school student, not a little child. (This past weekend's UCD competition was a high school comp.)

 

[mi*vida*loca]

You send them to school when they have actively vomited in front of you in the morning? Your children are over exaggerating their illnesses when they are vomiting?

You wouldn't call the school the first time they vomited to let them know they were sick?

You would go out all day and do fun things with them while they were vomiting and then call an hour before the bell rings and say they are sick and expect an excused absence?

No but I've sent them to school when they have complained of a stomach ache and then they've thrown up at school.

I don't call the school when my kids are sick. In my district a parents note or phone call doesn't excuse an absence. Only a doctors note does. It goes down as an unexcused absence. Sometimes I get a note, sometimes I don't. It depends how often they've been absent lately.

If I need a doctors note I call my doctor and they write me one off of my word of saying they are sick. I don't have to jump through hoops to prove it. And I wouldn't jump through hoops to prove it to a coach. Take my word or don't.

My son has thrown up from eating too much junk. We've gone out and done things. No fever or chills. That could've turned worse had it been early signs of a stomach bug.

I'm really not the kind to give passes to my kids. If my kids were on a team trip they would attend everything. If I truly felt my kid was sick, even if I had taken them to the parks and they got worse after a few hours, I would use my Mom judgment and take them with me. Crap happens. Sometimes you think they are fine and then overdoing it makes it that much worse.

My son (17) had pneumonia last year. Missed 3 days of school. Was fever free for 24 hours. Said he was fine to go to school. By 10 am I got a call that his fever had spiked to 102 and he was dizzy. With him just walking to the bus and being out of the house for 3 hours he went completely downhill. That could've been us at WDW. Thinking all was good and then BAM.

 

[Hikergirl]

You send them to school when they have actively vomited in front of you in the morning? Your children are over exaggerating their illnesses when they are vomiting?

You wouldn't call the school the first time they vomited to let them know they were sick?

You would go out all day and do fun things with them while they were vomiting and then call an hour before the bell rings and say they are sick and expect an excused absence?

Wait, you excuse me of twisting things?
That isn't what mi*vida*loca said at all. Things happen, parents make mistakes. I guess a coach on a power trip wouldn't even consider that though...

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

Wait, you excuse me of twisting things?
That isn't what mi*vida*loca said at all. Things happen, parents make mistakes. I guess a coach on a power trip wouldn't even consider that though...

The problem is, the child in the OP was actively vomiting. The mom knew that.

This wasn't about a tummy ache. Or a fake illness. This girl was vomiting.

 

[because]

No but I've sent them to school when they have complained of a stomach ache and then they've thrown up at school.

I don't call the school when my kids are sick. In my district a parents note or phone call doesn't excuse an absence. Only a doctors note does. It goes down as an unexcused absence. Sometimes I get a note, sometimes I don't. It depends how often they've been absent lately.

If I need a doctors note I call my doctor and they write me one off of my word of saying they are sick. I don't have to jump through hoops to prove it. And I wouldn't jump through hoops to prove it to a coach. Take my word or don't.

My son has thrown up from eating too much junk. We've gone out and done things. No fever or chills. That could've turned worse had it been early signs of a stomach bug.

I'm really not the kind to give passes to my kids. If my kids were on a team trip they would attend everything. If I truly felt my kid was sick, even if I had taken them to the parks and they got worse after a few hours, I would use my Mom judgment and take them with me. Crap happens. Sometimes you think they are fine and then overdoing it makes it that much worse.

My son had pneumonia last year. Missed 3 days of school. Was fever free for 24 hours. Said he was fine to go to school. By 10 am I got a call that his fever had spiked to 102 and he was dizzy. With him just walking to the bus and being out of the house for 3 hours he went completely downhill. That could've been us at WDW. Thinking all was good and then BAM.

I agree with all this. The sticking point for me is that a high school student can be out in the parks till 7 pm, actively vomiting, but at the last minute be too sick to continue her commitment to the team.

In my original post, I just said that I think there is more to the story and that I think the coaches may have a different take on it to put such a strict rule on the girl and not excuse her from the team early. I said that in our case, when we do that, it is because we have heard more info from other parents, there is a history with the parent, etc.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

The problem is, the child in the OP was actively vomiting. The mom knew that.

This wasn't about a tummy ache. Or a fake illness. This girl was vomiting.

An even better reason for her to go with mom and not continue.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

An even better reason for her to go with mom and not continue.

If the mom was going to take it seriously. But it doesn't seem that way. At least not based on what has been shared with us so far.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

I wouldn't have asked for permission in the first place. I would have informed them of my decision. If they didn't like it, tough. I'm the parent, period end of story.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I agree with all this. The sticking point for me is that a high school student can be out in the parks till 7 pm, actively vomiting, but at the last minute be too sick to continue her commitment to the team.

In my original post, I just said that I think there is more to the story and that I think the coaches may have a different take on it to put such a strict rule on the girl and not excuse her from the team early. I said that in our case, when we do that, it is because we have heard more info from other parents, there is a history with the parent, etc.

It could be that they are pulling a fast one but after being a mom to two kids for 18 years I've seen my kids be semi ok and then we overdo it and they are just too sick to continue. So I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Heck I've done it myself. Have a stomach bug, be home all day and think "hey I haven't thrown up in a few hours let me try and clean up," start doing chores, overdo it and then I'm back in bed feeling worse than ever.

 

[MamaBelle4]

How old is DD? That affects some things, if she's middle school age, I can see the coach HAVING to be very strict with the rules. Parents have the right to know who is going to be on an overnight trip with their children and as OP wasn't a chaperone, the coach probably couldn't sign off on her leaving with another adult.

I've been on overnight trips with the band where we were told if our family were not chaperones, we should have no expectation of being able to meet up with them.

 

[because]

Wait, you excuse me of twisting things?
That isn't what mi*vida*loca said at all. Things happen, parents make mistakes. I guess a coach on a power trip wouldn't even consider that though...

I won't respond further to your continued personal attacks. If you want to continue to twist things in order to justify attacks, go ahead. If you prefer not to see my posts, please put me on ignore. I am getting rather sick of you stalking me and twisting everything on every thread.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

No but I've sent them to school when they have complained of a stomach ache and then they've thrown up at school.

I don't call the school when my kids are sick. In my district a parents note or phone call doesn't excuse an absence. Only a doctors note does. It goes down as an unexcused absence. Sometimes I get a note, sometimes I don't. It depends how often they've been absent lately.

If I need a doctors note I call my doctor and they write me one off of my word of saying they are sick. I don't have to jump through hoops to prove it. And I wouldn't jump through hoops to prove it to a coach. Take my word or don't.

My son has thrown up from eating too much junk. We've gone out and done things. No fever or chills. That could've turned worse had it been early signs of a stomach bug.

I'm really not the kind to give passes to my kids. If my kids were on a team trip they would attend everything. If I truly felt my kid was sick, even if I had taken them to the parks and they got worse after a few hours, I would use my Mom judgment and take them with me. Crap happens. Sometimes you think they are fine and then overdoing it makes it that much worse.

My son (17) had pneumonia last year. Missed 3 days of school. Was fever free for 24 hours. Said he was fine to go to school. By 10 am I got a call that his fever had spiked to 102 and he was dizzy. With him just walking to the bus and being out of the house for 3 hours he went completely downhill. That could've been us at WDW. Thinking all was good and then BAM.

Off topic to the overall thread but to the bolded- that seems quite restrictive and rather timeconsuming to have to call to get a note. Seems ineffective too as you calling doesn't mean your child is actually sick so long as the doctor is willing to go off of your word which is what the school would be doing if they just let you call yourself advising your child is sick without requiring a doctor's note.

 

[because]

How old is DD? That affects some things, if she's middle school age, I can see the coach HAVING to be very strict with the rules. Parents have the right to know who is going to be on an overnight trip with their children and as OP wasn't a chaperone, the coach probably couldn't sign off on her leaving with another adult.

I've been on overnight trips with the band where we were told if our family were not chaperones, we should have no expectation of being able to meet up with them.

She has to be high school. UDA is high school and all star

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Off topic to the overall thread but to the bolded- that seems quite restrictive and rather timeconsuming to have to call to get a note. Seems ineffective too as you calling doesn't mean your child is actually sick so long as the doctor is willing to go off of your word which is what the school would be doing if they just let you call yourself advising your child is sick without requiring a doctor's note.

I remember as a kid a note from my mom was good enough. Now it has to be a doctors note on official letterhead.

It's actually not time consuming. My old pediatrician (over 12 years ago) who made us go in for every little thing in order to get a note was time consuming.

Now I call, speak to the triage nurse, give her the symptoms and she lets me know if I should bring them in or not. It's usually don't bring them in, they write a note, I print off of the patient portal. The nurse gives us instructions and it usually involves bringing them in if they aren't better within 48-72 hours.

I'm sure they look at your history too. If you call in every two weeks for a note that'll raise a red flag. It's usually twice a year for my kids. They each seem to get a 24 hour stomach bug once a year and then a nasty cold once a year.

 

[because]

According to the UDA schedule, awards were all between 9 and 11:30pm on Sunday. From experience, if her dismissal time was 10pm, that probably meant she was in the first or second set of awards that got over at 9:45 and 10:15pm.

If the daughter left at 7pm, she would be missing awards. We would excuse an actively vomiting athlete (or diarrhea, or fever) from awards, but otherwise our organization requires all athletes to be at awards as it is part of the competition. As I said, I would want to hear the coaches's side of the story first. It is my experience that the opposite is usually true. Most committed athletes try to hide their illnesses so they can go to awards and we have to force them to leave. Awards is why you go to the competition. Everyone wants to know how they did.

I can fully understand why the coaches asked the Mom to come to All Stars so they could assess her condition before awards. If she was good to go, she would need to go to awards. If she was sick, at least with us, we would send her on her way home.

https://varsity.com/uploads/editor/files/PDFS/UDA/NDTC/18/18_NDTC_Order_of_Comp.pdf