News Round Up 2018

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AMusicLifeForMe said:
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Coco just won the Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature Film!
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While I was really happy to see this, did you see what it was up against? Boss Baby? Ferdinand?!? The Vincent Van Gogh film looked intriguing, but we are talking about something partially funded through Kickstarter here... not exactly competing with Pixar. And then Breadwinner, which again, looked intriguing, but do we expect an independent studio has *never* won this category before.

As a matter of fact, Walt Disney Studios have now won 10 of the 12 Golden Globes for Best Animated Feature Film. The only Disney films to have been beaten were Cars 2 in 2012 (which lost to The Adventures of Tintin) and Big Hero 6 in 2014 (which lost to How to Train Your Dragon 2). Arguably 2014 had one of the strongest line ups of nominees, with Lego Movie, Box Trolls (absolutely gorgeous stop motion animation), and the Book of Life rounding out that year.

To put that in perspective, Boss Baby earned a 52% on RT. Apart from being from Dreamworks, it did nothing to earn a nomination. Looking over the nominees in the past 12 years, I feel comfortable saying it is one of the worst movies on the entire list.

So, not to take anything away from Coco, but man... what a bad year for animation.
 
eXo said:
While I was really happy to see this, did you see what it was up against? Boss Baby? Ferdinand?!? The Vincent Van Gogh film looked intriguing, but we are talking about something partially funded through Kickstarter here... not exactly competing with Pixar. And then Breadwinner, which again, looked intriguing, but do we expect an independent studio has *never* won this category before.

As a matter of fact, Walt Disney Studios have now won 10 of the 12 Golden Globes for Best Animated Feature Film. The only Disney films to have been beaten were Cars 2 in 2012 (which lost to The Adventures of Tintin) and Big Hero 6 in 2014 (which lost to How to Train Your Dragon 2). Arguably 2014 had one of the strongest line ups of nominees, with Lego Movie, Box Trolls (absolutely gorgeous stop motion animation), and the Book of Life rounding out that year.

To put that in perspective, Boss Baby earned a 52% on RT. Apart from being from Dreamworks, it did nothing to earn a nomination. Looking over the nominees in the past 12 years, I feel comfortable saying it is one of the worst movies on the entire list.

So, not to take anything away from Coco, but man... what a bad year for animation.
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I'm surprised Cars 3 wasn't on the list (I actually enjoyed that film), but Coco definitely deserved the award for 2017. It will be interesting to see if the success continues to the Oscars which I'm sure it will.
 
Mr. Mickey said:
Yes it’s not as much as delivery though I still prefer Brayden’s delivery since jack is screaming at you as if it is the apocalypse, but I digress as my point was about content. Brayden is there to relay confirmed news to people and if it is a rumor he says so. On the other hand, jack basically confirms rumors on his own, is usually after Mickey views, and from my understanding considers himself as an inside source of his own. He basically thinks he is THE Disney insider but that’s just my opinion. Does that clear things up? Lol
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I definitely get what you are saying though do see DSNY a little differently - I see it as giving a recap of a topic that has a lot of rumors or news going around and trying to synthesize it all a bit. I like it b/c it can give you a good idea of the topic in like a 3 minute overview. Also, he is generally pretty good about sourcing where things come - be it listing the source of a giving video clip or often even mentioning that he included links to other sites in the show description. I do agree he sometimes presents things as fact that maybe aren't but I think once you know what the show is and isn't it can be a good quick overview of things
 


eXo said:
While I was really happy to see this, did you see what it was up against? Boss Baby? Ferdinand?!? The Vincent Van Gogh film looked intriguing, but we are talking about something partially funded through Kickstarter here... not exactly competing with Pixar. And then Breadwinner, which again, looked intriguing, but do we expect an independent studio has *never* won this category before.

As a matter of fact, Walt Disney Studios have now won 10 of the 12 Golden Globes for Best Animated Feature Film. The only Disney films to have been beaten were Cars 2 in 2012 (which lost to The Adventures of Tintin) and Big Hero 6 in 2014 (which lost to How to Train Your Dragon 2). Arguably 2014 had one of the strongest line ups of nominees, with Lego Movie, Box Trolls (absolutely gorgeous stop motion animation), and the Book of Life rounding out that year.

To put that in perspective, Boss Baby earned a 52% on RT. Apart from being from Dreamworks, it did nothing to earn a nomination. Looking over the nominees in the past 12 years, I feel comfortable saying it is one of the worst movies on the entire list.

So, not to take anything away from Coco, but man... what a bad year for animation.
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My kids watched Boss Baby a few times as it was on Netflix ... it is, um, terrible - and nonsensical

We saw Ferdinand and actually enjoyed it quite a bit ... definitely nothing close to as good as Coco, but worth a watch
 
pangyal said:
It’s for 10 and up and they are apparently strict about it. Our 8 year old was crushed when the age restriction was announced right before our trip!
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I know this was a few pages back, but this is likely more about the VR technology than the content. Most VR technology, and even 3D for that matter, has lots of warnings about young people using it. Apparently there is concern that prolonged use can cause issues with the youngin's due to their eye's still developing. That is one reason Nintendo made the 2DS system. Even though a standard 3ds can have the 3d mode turned off, there was concern that a kid could turn it back on again. So they just stripped it out wholesale.
 
AMusicLifeForMe said:
I'm surprised Cars 3 wasn't on the list (I actually enjoyed that film), but Coco definitely deserved the award for 2017. It will be interesting to see if the success continues to the Oscars which I'm sure it will.
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I haven't seen Cars 3, so I can't comment on it, but I do find it silly it wasn't on the list. Then again, it goes to show that these things are more about representation than the actual films. If Dreamworks puts something out, it will be nominated no matter how bad it is. Disney will get 2 nominations if they simply can't find anything else to put on the list.

Anyone who watched the Oscars back when the LOTR movies were coming out could see this first hand. The first two got sound editing and visual effects, but the third one got 11 friggin awards. Every category it was nominated it, it won. Best movie, best director, best costumes, best art direction, best film editing, best score, best song, best sound, best effects, best makeup, best adapted screenplay. That is crazy. And not because I don't think it was an amazing film, but because this was obviously awards for the entire trilogy all held back for the last film. Which is fine if the awards were for "best series of movies in the past 5 years", but it wasn't. These awards were supposed to be just for the third and final film, and these awards were supposed to be compared directly to just other films released in 2003.

Was the third movie that much better than the first two? No.
Were the movies in 2003 (year of the third film) that much worse? No.
Were the movies in 2001 & 2002 that much better? No.

It comes down to not judging these things on their own merits, but instead a whole industry of lobbying votes and giving people/companies awards for a single movie but basing their merits on their entire catalogue.

Anyways, sorry for the rant. Award season always gets me worked up because really bad movies make these lists while much better ones get ignored, and then the same 2 movies I've never even heard of before go and win every bloody award. The secret to winning an SOcar is to make a really long, drab, slow movie about a Queen. Make her 15% sassy and 85% button down. If you want 2 oscars, make sure to cast Helen Mirren. Repeat ad nauseam.
 


eXo said:
I haven't seen Cars 3, so I can't comment on it, but I do find it silly it wasn't on the list. Then again, it goes to show that these things are more about representation than the actual films. If Dreamworks puts something out, it will be nominated no matter how bad it is. Disney will get 2 nominations if they simply can't find anything else to put on the list.
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i did see Cars 3 and it was waaaaay better than Boss Baby. I mean, it doesn't really matter as Coco still would have (and should have) won, but Cars three was better than Boss Baby, but like you said they probably don't want two Disney there unless there is a) really and truly nothing else or b) Disney really did have 2 amazing films (like, I think both Moana and Zootopia deserved to be nominated)
 
TheMaxRebo said:
i did see Cars 3 and it was waaaaay better than Boss Baby. I mean, it doesn't really matter as Coco still would have (and should have) won, but Cars three was better than Boss Baby, but like you said they probably don't want two Disney there unless there is a) really and truly nothing else or b) Disney really did have 2 amazing films (like, I think both Moana and Zootopia deserved to be nominated)
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They will def. nominate from the same company more than once if there isn't much else. 6 years of the past 12, Disney has had more than 1 nomination. In 2012 Brave, Frankenweenie, and Wreck-It Ralph were all 3 nominated. But Sony got in there with Hotel Transylvania (....) and Dreamworks got Rise of the Guardians in there. Essentially, if Dreamworks or Sony Animation put *anything* out, it will get nominated.

The movie to pull indie films in started in 2015 with Anomalisa and arguably Shaun the Sheep. Last year they put Kubo & My Life as a Zucchini in. Before that you have to go back to 2010 for The Illusionist. Every other nominated film has been from a major studio since the Golden Globes started giving animated feature awards.

The rules for a movie to qualify for nomination are that it can have no more than 25% live action and must be at least 70 minutes. If less than 12 movies were released that year that qualify for this, then only 3 nominations for the award will be made. As there were 5 nominations, that means at least 12 movies come out this year that met this criteria. And somehow Boss Baby was still friggin nominated.

Ah well. None of this really matters and none of it has anything to do with Disney news, so I regress.
 
TheMaxRebo said:
I definitely get what you are saying though do see DSNY a little differently - I see it as giving a recap of a topic that has a lot of rumors or news going around and trying to synthesize it all a bit. I like it b/c it can give you a good idea of the topic in like a 3 minute overview. Also, he is generally pretty good about sourcing where things come - be it listing the source of a giving video clip or often even mentioning that he included links to other sites in the show description. I do agree he sometimes presents things as fact that maybe aren't but I think once you know what the show is and isn't it can be a good quick overview of things
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. To clarify I was not saying I dislike DSNY, but I definitely prefer Mickey Views over it. There are plenty of other places to get news rather than these two, but overall DSNY isn’t awful nor is it as great as some and jack himself present it to be.
 
eXo said:
While I was really happy to see this, did you see what it was up against? Boss Baby? Ferdinand?!? The Vincent Van Gogh film looked intriguing, but we are talking about something partially funded through Kickstarter here... not exactly competing with Pixar.
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The only one of these I saw was "Painting Van Gogh" it was amazing, and I'm not a fan of impressionism. Very well done.
 
eXo said:
They will def. nominate from the same company more than once if there isn't much else. 6 years of the past 12, Disney has had more than 1 nomination. In 2012 Brave, Frankenweenie, and Wreck-It Ralph were all 3 nominated. But Sony got in there with Hotel Transylvania (....) and Dreamworks got Rise of the Guardians in there. Essentially, if Dreamworks or Sony Animation put *anything* out, it will get nominated.

The movie to pull indie films in started in 2015 with Anomalisa and arguably Shaun the Sheep. Last year they put Kubo & My Life as a Zucchini in. Before that you have to go back to 2010 for The Illusionist. Every other nominated film has been from a major studio since the Golden Globes started giving animated feature awards.
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The Secret of Kells racked up a bunch of indie noms in 2010 just not the GG.
 
amberpi said:
The only one of these I saw was "Painting Van Gogh" it was amazing, and I'm not a fan of impressionism. Very well done.
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is that the "Loving Vincent" one done with all hand painted art or something else? If it was that was technically really amazing
 
TheMaxRebo said:
is that the "Loving Vincent" one done with all hand painted art or something else? If it was that was technically really amazing
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I read it was the world's first "painted" film. Crazy to think each frame was hand painted. I plan on seeing it on this merit alone.
 
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