As you can see from my original post as I quoted above, I did mention that our stay was quite some time ago, along with saying I have read many reports of other guests who have had more recent stays (within the last year or two), that have experienced the exact same thing we did. Even though we have only had one experience at an Epcot resort, it was still OUR experience, whether it happened yesterday or 10 years ago, which is what I thought the Dis was all about.....other people's experiences and opinions?????? As for your many experiences being 100% true, same goes for my one experience. You having over 20 stays at the Epcot resorts doesn't make my experience any less true. I do agree with you that there a lot of variables in transportation, which is my point. Our one experience was totally different from your 20+ stays, but that doesn't mean our experience wasn't was it was or that everyone will have a great experience like you. To me, your original post sounded like you were saying transportation is fine and that anyone that says otherwise is mistaken. I'm not saying you DID say this, I'm saying it's the way I perceive your post. I'm not saying the OP will experience terrible bus service, just that it is a possibility.
Don't get me wrong...I think every single person's experience is 100% factual. BUT.....bad or good, when talking about buses, tends to be a bit subjective. What I might feel is completely acceptable could put you right over the edge! A wait of 10 mins may be fine to me, but awful to you! I never said your experiences weren't 100% accurate. I did say that mine were as well...and that's my issue. Sometimes, on these boards, people think that when they give their less than stellar experiences, and someone else comes along and says that they didn't have anywhere near that kind of experience, but a better one, well....it comes off as saying that the first poster's experiences aren't valid. And that's not true.
My point was to merely show what I had experienced. It is only through everyone's posting about their particular experiences can others make good, informed choices.
Sorry, but I have stayed at BWV at least yearly since 2006 and I think the bus service is terrible. To be more specific, trips where we did not sit at all, all week, waiting at MK while the other resorts had 2-3 busses come and go, then 1 bus for the Epcot resorts that masses of people pile on to. Then having to do the sometimes 5 resort loop.
Talk about feeling like a "second class citizen". I've said it before on this forum and ALWAYS get flamed, but IN MY EXPERIENCES, yes, the Epcot resort bus service is a negative. Last week when I posted this a few people told me I wasn't paying for better bus service at a deluxe resort. I respectfully answer that what we are paying for is subjective and I expect bus service that is at least equal to the values and moderates. I have stayed at BWV in Nov, Dec, May and Aug. I've stayed at BCV in early Dec and April and haven't figured out a pattern of when the busses are shared between 2-3 or all 5 resorts. All that being said, I am staying at BWV next month. The bus service is not a deal breaker for me, just something I weigh into my decision of where to stay.
I know...we've had this discussion before. Your room rates really aren't going to get you better buses. It's up to each resort to decide how much they want to spend on buses. If it were up to me?? I would put the S/D on their own bus route since they technically aren't WDW resorts. Or put them last, always, if combined with BW. The problem is that if you try to put them last if the bus also goes to the YC/BC, it's a lot of backtracking...and they aren't going to do that..way too costly.
This is an argument that will never be 'settled'...it's too subjective. I have given this example before, so I apologize to those that have read it before.
My friend and I were at Kidani, waiting for the DHS bus to come. We walked up to the bus stop just as the HS bus was pulling away.No problem. We sat down to wait for the next one. It was early morning, the park was due to open in about 20 mins. We were the only ones at the bus stop at this point. After about 5 mins, others start arriving. We were standing off to the side. We watched as groups arrived. A bit of time went by..about 10 mins or so. A largish family strolled up, and stood a bit away from us. No big deal. Well, afer about 10 mins, my friend and I see the HS bus coming, so we strolled over to the spot where the bus would stop....we've been to this rodeo before, we know where the dang bus stops!! The largish group, that had arrived about 10-15 mins prior, starts pushing their way forward, to where they 'thought' the bus would stop..but way too far up from the end. When the bus stopped, the driver opened the door, and waved my friend and I on....it was a nice orderly line, until as I put my foot up, this woman (from that group) came charging up, yelling that they had been waiting 45 mins, closer to an hour and they should be allowed to board first..that we hadn't been waiting nearly as long as they had. The driver just smiled and said to just get in the line, everyone would get to HS. I told him that no one other than us had been waiting for very long..that the family in question had been there a whole 10-12 mins!! He just smiled and said it happens every morning.
Now....I can't say for sure if this family really thought they had been waiting that long...I have been in line with people that swore up and down that they had been waiting for close to an hour, when they had arrived long after I had and I had been there for 20 mins!!! Or, if they thought they could just bull their way past us using intimidation!!
But sometimes, it seems that you are waiting a lot longer than you really are.I mean really? You want long bus rides? Stay at SSR some time. Man, it's close to 20 mins before you get off SSR property and on the road to a park.