rstevens333
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I mean REALLY----I still get tears in my eyes just on the little boat ride from the Wilderness Lodge to the boat dock in front of the Magic Kingdo
I love that darn boat.
I mean REALLY----I still get tears in my eyes just on the little boat ride from the Wilderness Lodge to the boat dock in front of the Magic Kingdo
I just want to highlight one problem in particular that seemed far worse than in the past - rides kept breaking down. There were at least six rides down at various times of the day in MK on Friday, including Splash Mountain being down for almost the whole day, and shorter closings for Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain, Carousel of Progress, Philharmagic, Peoplemover and the Tiki Room. Some of these are not headliners (but some are), but they are some of our favorites and it seriously impacted our day. Not only did we not get to do what we wanted, but the multiple closings led to even longer lines on the open rides on a day that was already very crowded.
34 posts in this thread for the old standby, " if you don't like it don' t go", or a variation on it. It gets old.
People are allowed to voice their opinions and concerns over a place they obviously love, that's why they voice it!
It also gets quite old to hear the wah, wah cries that Disney can do no right. If you don't want to read about people having a 100% great time then DO NOT OPEN THOSE THREADS!! Easy peasy.
Fixed that for ya...
EDIT: Besides, maybe I've been misinformed, but I thought the purpose of the Disboards was for Disney fans to talk about WDW. But all too often, it seems people think it's only for those who want to bash it, rain on it and put it down. Darn shame.
Wow, I've never been told that I'm not a Disney fan before. I've always been told that I'm the biggest Disney fan that they've ever met. Weird that you would claim that anyone who doesn't agree with your position is not a fan and shouldn't come to the DIS boards.
Actually, what gets old is the repetitive whining about every last thing, over and over and over...let's see, there's: it's crowded, the restrooms aren't spotless, the food is bad, the shows are bad, they change their operating hours to ones that don't suit me personally, they're only concerned about money, some of the rides stink, on and on. Time and again.
You're right, people are allowed to voice their opinions. But perhaps you forget there are a lot of people who actually do love WDW and see plenty of good...tons of good...in it and what they do. It gets old to hear constant whining. Many of us come here because we want to talk about the thing we enjoy and love and are looking forward to. Not read about how someone doesn't want to go to a park because...gasp...there may be other people there too. I couldn't agree more that those who don't like it are free to speak up, but the internet is a big place. I'm sure there are plenty of sites devoted to those who want to complain about WDW. Just as you're annoyed that someone might actually defend WDW, those of us who really like it as it is now get rather annoyed with the whiners. So yeah, we can say as often as we like "If you don't like WDW, then don't go." And I couldn't agree with that more...if you want to come here just to complain, then why are you here? Why do you still go? Hang up the ears and find somewhere else.
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Actually, what gets old is the repetitive whining about every last thing, over and over and over...let's see, there's: it's crowded, the restrooms aren't spotless, the food is bad, the shows are bad, they change their operating hours to ones that don't suit me personally, they're only concerned about money, some of the rides stink, on and on. Time and again.
lot of people who actually do love WDW and see plenty of good...tons of good...in it and what they do. It gets old to hear constant whining. Many of us come here because we want to talk about the thing we enjoy and love and are looking forward to. Not read about how someone doesn't want to go to a park because...gasp...there may be other people there too. I couldn't agree more that those who don't like it are free to speak up, but the internet is a big place. I'm sure there are plenty of sites devoted to those who want to complain about WDW. Just as you're annoyed that someone might actually defend WDW, those of us who really like it as it is now get rather annoyed with the whiners. So yeah, we can say as often as we like "If you don't like WDW, then don't go." And I couldn't agree with that more...if you want to come here just to complain, then why are you here? Why do you still go? Hang up the ears and find somewhere else.
Also remember that the attendance numbers grow year over year over year since 9/11. So obviously, not everyone thinks all these negative things about Disney.
Yeah, I'm a hard core Disney defender, and proud of it. Do I think it's perfect and can do no wrong? Nope. But I'm not interested in nitpicking about the little things that I think aren't exactly right. I'm focused on the (IMO) 98% of things they do have right and I enjoy every last moment of it. Just like anyone else here, I don't work in WDW corporate management, so I can't say for certainty that they're intentionally cutting corners and "don't care" about their guests. However, from a purely logical business perspective, I'd have a very, very hard time believing that to be the case. WDW is in the business of entertaining people, so that they come back. What sense would it make for them to say "To heck with what our guests actually think, we don't care about them, let's just make money"? Since their entire business is built around their guests, it would seem awful foolish to have that philosophy. So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they try to do the right thing. Whether you agree with what they do or not is certainly subjective, and everyone has their own opinions.
Sorry, rant over. I totally agree everyone has a right to their own opinion and has a right to voice it. But for those of us who love the place as it is and really enjoy reading about it, going there, etc...it gets quite old to hear the complaining over and over.
Actually, what gets old is the repetitive whining about every last thing, over and over and over...let's see, there's: it's crowded, the restrooms aren't spotless, the food is bad, the shows are bad, they change their operating hours to ones that don't suit me personally, they're only concerned about money, some of the rides stink, on and on. Time and again.
You're right, people are allowed to voice their opinions. But perhaps you forget there are a lot of people who actually do love WDW and see plenty of good...tons of good...in it and what they do. It gets old to hear constant whining. Many of us come here because we want to talk about the thing we enjoy and love and are looking forward to. Not read about how someone doesn't want to go to a park because...gasp...there may be other people there too. I couldn't agree more that those who don't like it are free to speak up, but the internet is a big place. I'm sure there are plenty of sites devoted to those who want to complain about WDW. Just as you're annoyed that someone might actually defend WDW, those of us who really like it as it is now get rather annoyed with the whiners. So yeah, we can say as often as we like "If you don't like WDW, then don't go." And I couldn't agree with that more...if you want to come here just to complain, then why are you here? Why do you still go? Hang up the ears and find somewhere else.
Also remember that the attendance numbers grow year over year over year since 9/11. So obviously, not everyone thinks all these negative things about Disney.
Yeah, I'm a hard core Disney defender, and proud of it. Do I think it's perfect and can do no wrong? Nope. But I'm not interested in nitpicking about the little things that I think aren't exactly right. I'm focused on the (IMO) 98% of things they do have right and I enjoy every last moment of it. Just like anyone else here, I don't work in WDW corporate management, so I can't say for certainty that they're intentionally cutting corners and "don't care" about their guests. However, from a purely logical business perspective, I'd have a very, very hard time believing that to be the case. WDW is in the business of entertaining people, so that they come back. What sense would it make for them to say "To heck with what our guests actually think, we don't care about them, let's just make money"? Since their entire business is built around their guests, it would seem awful foolish to have that philosophy. So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they try to do the right thing. Whether you agree with what they do or not is certainly subjective, and everyone has their own opinions.
Sorry, rant over. I totally agree everyone has a right to their own opinion and has a right to voice it. But for those of us who love the place as it is and really enjoy reading about it, going there, etc...it gets quite old to hear the complaining over and over.
Wow, a lot of ranting. This must hit a nerve. You must not forget that the people on these boards all love Disney or they wouldn't be on here. The posters who voice their personal concerns about wdw also love Disney just as much as you do. If they didn't love Disney, they wouldn't be concerned over things they feel are wrong. It seems that every time a poster voices his concerns about something, whether it be broken down rides, poor maintenance, etc, etc, they get jumped on by people who see no wrong with Disney. That's what I get tired of seeing. Sure, you love it. But that doesn't mean others can't voice their concerns about a place they also love. It is a discussion board and there seems to be a lot of posters who feel something is definitely not quite up to snuff with Disney. They have the right to discuss this with others. I do feel that the same old , If yo don't like it, don't go is rather insulting to others. think about it If you don't want to read this, then why don't you simply switch to another thread? That is a simple solution. I don't waste my time with threads I don't care for.
I think that we can agree that we all love Disney and let it go at that. You think there is never anything wrong, and others have issues that have arisen on their trips and they voice them. Surely we can all get along and not take issue with every little thing we don't agree with. Have a magical day!
Fixed that for ya...
EDIT: Besides, maybe I've been misinformed, but I thought the purpose of the Disboards was for Disney fans to talk about WDW. But all too often, it seems people think it's only for those who want to bash it, rain on it and put it down. Darn shame. For my part, I've never said or implied they can do no wrong. As I clearly pointed out, they're not perfect. But in my eyes, it's still quite a magical place full of fun, excitement and great experiences for my entire family. It's got a few warts, but the positives FAR, FAR outweigh the negatives. Why is it such a bad thing that I love the place and don't agree with those who bash it?
So precisely where was it that I said "TravelDad isn't a WDW fan"? I didn't see it. Nor did I say that if you don't agree with my opinion, you aren't allowed here. As you said yourself you're reading implications into what I said. Can't help you there. Never specifically said that everyone who says anything negative isn't a fan. If that's how you took it, that's up to you. My exact words were "a lot of people who actually do love WDW and see plenty of good...tons of good...in it and what they do. It gets old to hear constant whining." Never said that everyone who whines can't be a WDW fan by definition. Nor do I feel that way.
It's just my opinion, if it bothers you, sorry. At the end of the day, I move on and my feelings aren't hurt or changed. Hope you do the same. To me, I see the DISboards as a place where fans would come to share positive things and enjoyment. Never said anyone who doesn't feel that way shouldn't be here...my point is simply if you truly felt that way and really didn't like WDW anymore, why would you want to come here? Not that you can't come here. And just like people can get tired of WDW defenders, others can get tired of WDW complainers, right? But each to their own.
The dis boards are for Disney fans, all of us. Because we all love Disney, otherwise, why waste our time on boards we don't like? You have misconceptions of who the Disney fans are, and in your opinion they are the ones who only say positive things about Disney that should be allowed to comment? That's rather prejudice. We all are fans, we have valid concerns, we are going to voice them. And yes, we have wonderful fun filled stories about our trips to WDW too, imagine that! So this place is not only for what you consider fans to post. It is for all those who love Disney and want to discuss.
As it has been pointed out before many times, if you don't want to read these threads, then please don't. Just go to another one filled with the pixie dust that you so want them all to be.