Marathon Weekend 2018

[ZellyB]

I’m bummed about the corrals a bit. Part of my motivation with my PR half earlier this year was to move up corrals and maybe get ahead of a few thousand folks. But nothing to be done about it and it’s still going to be amazing so I refuse to let it get me down too much.

On the upside, my bib letter will definitely be better than last year since I was in H. Was hoping to score a G this year but now maybe I’m a D or something. Anybody have a clue how the old corrals crosswalk into the new ones?

 

[DopeyBadger]

You are far better at reading that than I was. How does the corral mess with your theorized spreadsheets?

It'll depend on the corral breakdown from a bib# standpoint. Since the HM/M went from 16 corrals (A to P) to 8 corrals (A to H), I anticipate that they just combined them in sets of two. So, corral A had 500 in the 2017 WDW weekend. Now corral A 2018 will simply be A and B 2017 combined (500+500). I then evaluated the 2017 corrals based on the bib# makeup, the timing, and thus the rate of bibs per minute at different times during the start:



I'll use this information to come up with a time estimate on each corral release. The assumption will be the start time and end time of the corral release will remain the same (assuming the same # of bibs as well). I'll then request whether a person intends on lining up at the Front, Middle, or Back of the corral. I'll break down each corral into mini-waves of 1/4, and then use that to come up with the estimated start time. It should end up being within +/- 5 min if my assumptions end up being correct.

As for Dopey bib = 5k/10k corral assignment. I was attempting to decipher the 5k/10k breakdown to help determine corral assignment. My guess is the Dopey assignment is dependent on the # of 5k/10k solo bibs running at certain paces. But it seems the breakdown would be roughly:



Or someone who has a POT for Dopey that equals a 5k pace of 9:00 or less is likely to end up in corral A. Someone with a Dopey POT (or estimate) that equates to a 5k pace of 11-12 would be likely around corral D. Not a guarantee, but an educated guess when it comes to making timing estimations.

Also, didn't see if anyone else posted it, but it looks like bib pickup at the expo has been broken up even more:

HP Field House = Goofy and Dopey bib and shirt pickup
Champion Stadium = 5k, 10k, and Kids bib and shirt pickup
Visa Athletic Center = HM and M bib and shirt pickup

Looks like they have two runners relations as well:

HP Field House = 5k, 10k, Kids, Dopey, and Goofy
Visa Athletic Center = HM and M

runDisney merchandise is located in the HP Field House. It is not specifically mentioned in the Visa Athletic Center.

 

[Z-Knight]

I get into a relationship and Hell (Houston) freezes over !!!!!!!!

 

[Sailormoon2]

I’m bummed about the corrals a bit. Part of my motivation with my PR half earlier this year was to move up corrals and maybe get ahead of a few thousand folks. But nothing to be done about it and it’s still going to be amazing so I refuse to let it get me down too much.

I have to reiterate the exact same sentiments!! I was really excited to (potentially) move up corrals, I mean it looks like I still will, just along side a couple 1,000 people. However, it will not dictate my enjoyment once I'm there and running!

@Z-Knight I don't think I have ever seen palm trees with snow! YIKES!

 

[Sonyamalexander]

91 total Disers

All Star Movies 2
All Star Music 0
All Star Sports 5
Art of Animation 2
Pop Century 12
Caribbean Beach 1
Coronado Springs 6
Ft. Wilderness 2
Port Orleans French Quarter 2
Port Orleans Riverside 6
Animal Kingdom Lodge 7
Bay Lake Tower 3
Beach Club/Yacht Club 13
Boardwalk 6
Contemporary 3
Grand Floridian 0
Old Key West 7
Polynesian 4
Saratoga Springs 12
Wilderness Lodge 1
Offsite 6
Shades of Green 1
Swan and Dolphin 0

1/2-1/6 Art of Animation

 

[cburnett11]

I'd rather see tired, grumpy, sweaty, near-death people with a look of confusion on their face. I can provide lots of pictures if they need them.

I'd rather see some of these pics too. Like the guy I saw in the marathon that took a small sip of water and through the mostly full cup right back at the volunteers.

 

[DopeyBadger]

On the upside, my bib letter will definitely be better than last year since I was in H. Was hoping to score a G this year but now maybe I’m a D or something. Anybody have a clue how the old corrals crosswalk into the new ones?

I have to reiterate the exact same sentiments!! I was really excited to (potentially) move up corrals, I mean it looks like I still will, just along side a couple 1,000 people. However, it will not dictate my enjoyment once I'm there and running!

Actually, if you think about it you may very well end up with an earlier start time and less people ahead of you. If my assumption is correct, which we'll find out in about a week, and they just combine two corrals to make one larger one.



Let's say your new POT would have gotten you corral F according to the 2017 corral system. Well my guess is that will equal corral C in 2018. But if you line up in the front of corral C in 2018, it's really like your lining up in Corral E of 2017. So in effect you move up even closer to the start.

Now if say your new corral was G in 2017 POT standards. Then in 2018 you'd be in D. As long as you line up at the front of D, then there's no change from 2017 corral system in terms of # people ahead of you or the time in which you start relative to the gun time.

The caveat is if you have a corral G (2017) and line up at the back of D (2018), then you're essentially slotting yourself one corral back in what was corral H (in 2017).

This is all based on my assumption of combining corrals from 2017 to 2018 (going from 16 to 8). If that assumption is wrong, then things might end up a bit different than I expect.

 

[Sailormoon2]

@DopeyBadger YOU ROCK!!! The "new" spreadsheet has made my day

 

[Steveg2112]

maps, event guide and virtual goody bag now up on rundisney

 

[GollyGadget]

Any clue on how the adjusted course will impact spectators at Magic Kingdom?

 

[rteetz]

Any clue on how the adjusted course runners will impact spectators at Magic Kingdom?

Shouldn't impact too much. People should still be able to spectate on Main Street.

 

[PrincessV]

Eh ... RunDisney is not so great at typing the right words.

Or spelling them.

Or basically just at words in general.

^ TRUTH!

I somehow blocked out the 10K course from Princess (which is the same as WDW 10K) and somehow forgot just how much streets/parking lot time we have on that course. It's a 5K into EPCOT Woohoo, 45 mins of parking lot time on epic walking adventure!

At some point, my 10K strategy became: run until I get into EP, then stroll slowly, spend some QT online, and stop a million times, lol!

Ugh, I'm so mad at myself - I was planning on signing up for race retreat for the full, but never did, and now I've missed my chance. Is there any likelihood of more spots opening up? Now I'm stressed! This will be my first full, and I wasn't planning on being outside in the cold for hours beforehand

No guarantee it will be cold, FYI - it can truly be anywhere from 20-80 in Jan! But if ti helps, I didn't do RR this bitterly cold year and I was fine. Just pack on the throwaway layers and find a sheltered spot to hang out if it is cold.

The whole White Bib thing really has just prepared me for the fact that we're getting some super-retro Miami Vice-esque merch/shirts this year.

Dear runDisney:
The 90s called - they want their graphics back.
Love, V.

If my assumption is correct, which we'll find out in about a week, and they just combine two corrals to make one larger one.

For DS and W&D, the last couple corrals were massive - about 7,000 people in F for DS 2017, for instance. I can't get to the numbers right now to check, but is that in line with just combining two 2016 corrals?

 

[Princess KP]

Dear runDisney:
The 90s called - they want their graphics back.
Love, V.

 

[Dr Q]

They definitely used tape during Dark Side, at least in whatever corral I started in (which I can't remember ).

Yes, I was in B/D...there was definitely a tape!

 

[Mary9876]

Can anyone tell me about the bathroom situation and corrals? I always seem to get nervous and have phantom urges to go...prob could go every 20 min prior to the race. My body must know I tend to skip on races if there is any line. If I get to the corral early then decide I should go, can I step out and get back in or am I in the back. I submitted a 5 estimated time but never did a pot because I was planning on a friend joining and start in the back. So I’ll prob be in H. Is it worth getting there super early to be in front of H? If I do, is getting out for the bathroom an issue?

 

[AlexRunsDisney]

Can anyone tell me about the bathroom situation and corrals? I always seem to get nervous and have phantom urges to go...prob could go every 20 min prior to the race. My body must know I tend to skip on races if there is any line. If I get to the corral early then decide I should go, can I step out and get back in or am I in the back. I submitted a 5 estimated time but never did a pot because I was planning on a friend joining and start in the back. So I’ll prob be in H. Is it worth getting there super early to be in front of H? If I do, is getting out for the bathroom an issue?

Typically if you are there early and get your spot at the front of the corral, people around you will be nice enough to hold your spot if you need to use the restroom. It's not like you just showed up 10 minutes before the start and pushed your way to the front of the corral.

 

[PrincessV]

Can anyone tell me about the bathroom situation and corrals? I always seem to get nervous and have phantom urges to go...prob could go every 20 min prior to the race. My body must know I tend to skip on races if there is any line. If I get to the corral early then decide I should go, can I step out and get back in or am I in the back. I submitted a 5 estimated time but never did a pot because I was planning on a friend joining and start in the back. So I’ll prob be in H. Is it worth getting there super early to be in front of H? If I do, is getting out for the bathroom an issue?

Yes, you can get out and get back in, but yes, it will be a challenge to make your way back up to the front. The corrals have historically been set up as a long rectangle of plastic fencing. The only entrance is on one side at the back of the rectangle. I will say that as an individual (as opposed to, say, a group of 3), I've never had a hard time working my way up in a corral, though I've never bothered trying to get all the way to the front. You just look for little openings, say "Excuse me!" with a smile and make your way forward.

 

[roxymama]

Does anyone else see when event guides are posted for race weekends they are not apart of, but are still then compelled to see what other people are commenting about the information??? Anyone?

I did see that all the Dopey's and 5k-ers have 26 days until their race. So happy "marathon # of days" until run-fun.

#lurkaway

 

[DopeyBadger]

For DS and W&D, the last couple corrals were massive - about 7,000 people in F for DS 2017, for instance. I can't get to the numbers right now to check, but is that in line with just combining two 2016 corrals?

For the HM, I'd estimate about 5,500 in the last two corrals each as part of my guess.

Can anyone tell me about the bathroom situation and corrals? I always seem to get nervous and have phantom urges to go...prob could go every 20 min prior to the race. My body must know I tend to skip on races if there is any line. If I get to the corral early then decide I should go, can I step out and get back in or am I in the back. I submitted a 5 estimated time but never did a pot because I was planning on a friend joining and start in the back. So I’ll prob be in H. Is it worth getting there super early to be in front of H? If I do, is getting out for the bathroom an issue?

I know one thing I practice in training is my last water intake timing. I try and time my last drink of water to be 2 hours before the last time I want to use the bathroom before a race. So at Disney, that generally means no water from 2:00am to start (5:30) if I plan to use the bathroom for the last time at 4:00am. Might be something to see if you can also come up with a system for yourself.

 

[dragitoff]

I'm staying offsite 1/3-1/7