funcinderella
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of course,I'm not saying I don't mind it.... but I tend to ignore it if it's not easily stopped,aka the stupid kids trying get ahead in a long line (they're easy to stop) I look at it more like ignoring the fools is a better way to enjoy my own vacation.....though in OP's story,I think I would have probably reported to guest services,as this was pretty flagrant.....people tring to sneak around corners,etc is standard, pushing and yelling is just...ugh. But the good def. outweighs the bad.....
of course,I'm not saying I don't mind it.... but I tend to ignore it if it's not easily stopped,aka the stupid kids trying get ahead in a long line (they're easy to stop) I look at it more like ignoring the fools is a better way to enjoy my own vacation.....though in OP's story,I think I would have probably reported to guest services,as this was pretty flagrant.....people tring to sneak around corners,etc is standard, pushing and yelling is just...ugh. But the good def. outweighs the bad.....
to the OP...oddly enough, this is common behavior in some countries and cultures.
I was in a European country, waiting in what I thought was a line, to order an espresso, when a man behind me started shouting his order at the bartender. The bartender proceeded to make his order. I gave the man a stare and he just looked at me with a "What's your problem?" look. I figured, fine I'm next anyway. Then a little old lady behind me to my right shouts out her order and the bartender makes her order too. Now i'm pi**ed! I then say to the bartender (in that country's language because I speak it), "Hey, I've been here waiting!" He replies, "You have to say what you want."
The system there is that there is no such thing as a line. Whomever shouts out their order gets served.
I'm wondering if the man who cut you in line was a foreigner and if that is simply the behavior he is used to.
I blame the rise of such behavior in public to the popularity of reality TV. When people get paid to be rude and obnoxious on television and it is presented as their real life, then other people get the idea that it is acceptable and even desirable to behave that way in public.
When a society doesn't have a higher being that they feel they have to answer to, then the foundation of similar morality is not there. This causes an individualism type mentality that has no boundaries.
We have no one to blame but ourselves for allowing the decay of society because we allow those with the agenda to remove that moral standard from governing us.
How do we stop it? Put our trust back where it belongs. If not, chaos will inevitably follow.
THIS!!,...I would NOT have stood for it...you stand up to bullies especially in front of your kids. The CM did NOTHING????...Just served him???
I would NOT let that happen...no way..no how!
Uncalled for...seriously...
most people I know that do not believe in a higher being have better morals than those I know who do believe in a higher being. Many of the Founding Fathers did not believe in a higher being.
Its an entitlement mentality that has nothing to do with religious beliefs. If you teach your children, by word or action, that they are more special than others then you end up with a society of brats. I think a lot comes from attempts to improve self esteem. Everyone was told they were special and they believed it. So great, they have wonderful self esteem but can't understand why they have to wait in line like the normal people
Parade squatters can be a big headache. There's no answer except to be positioned right at the rope or curb and don't leave your spot.OK, so we just returned from Disney World, where we spent a magical eight days (9 if you count the two half-days we spent the day we arrived and left). For the most part, it was a wonderful, glorious week. Did a lot of new things, experienced a lot of new rides/attractions, ate at lots of new places.
But I'd like to rant, if I'm allowed a second. My week there really made me lose a lot of faith in society.
There wasn't a parade or nighttime spectacular show we attended where some yahoo rushed in at the last minute and stood right in front of one or both of my kids.
I can't even count the number of times I either was hit from behind by an aggressive stroller/ECV while walking, or ran into someone who decided that that very instant would be the perfect time to stop and check their text messages.
But the coup de grace, as they say, came on our last day in the Magic Kingdom. We were in line at Main Street bakery for breakfast. It was right at park opening, so probably 9:05 to 9:10. There was already a line, and the line naturally continued to grow (after all, who can resist the wonderful smells?). Well, after about a 15-minute wait, we finally get to where we can order. By now, the line is wrapped around the queue and out the doors. I'm about to order, and this scumbag (sorry, gotta keep it PG) walks right in front of me to the counter and starts ordering. I try to keep my cool and politely say to him "Excuse me sir, the line is back there" (pointing to the line spiraling out the door). He says "I know where the line is, but I've got four hungry kids and I ain't about to wait in line." To which I respond, well my two kids are hungry also and we've already waited in line and I'm sure everyone else in line would appreciate if you waited your turn also. He just shot me a look and proceeded to order. It took all I had not to ask for WDW security to be called, but I resisted and let the guy do what he had to do. It just really bugged me that he not only had the nerve to cut a dozen or so people in line, he knew he was cutting and didn't care one bit.
While we were eating, I had a lady come to me and say she's a Disney regular and had never witnessed such a vulgar display. The good thing is that I used a lot of the rudeness we experienced in Disney to teach my two boys right from wrong. I think they were obviously paying attention, because we got several compliments on how well-mannered they were during the trip.
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but I felt like I really needed to get that off my chest. I'm sure we've all had those experiences, and luckily the good experiences are much more plentiful than the bad. It's just unfortunate that the bad experiences are the ones that leave that lingering taste.
Well I hope it was not in Germany....
In my opinion rude people like this only learn the hard way. So I always be someone who will raise his voice against people misbehaving.
My family friend was in the CP this year and the amount of verbal and physical abuse she took from guests is mind-boggling and definitely caused me to lose whatever faith in society I had heretofore possessed.
The worst job was merging FP and stand by lines in a location at the MK. The number of people who don't know about FP is really shocking (and the number of people who get incensed and crazy angry that "those people get to go first" is actually quite scary for our society. I mean if you lose your marbles over waiting in line to get on a child's ride at the MK, how do you handle the annoyances of daily life?) She was called the worst names you can imagine for letting FP people go first -- all in front of children. She also witnessed shoving, pushing, hitting and name-calling in the standby line as people cut lines or tried to. The problem was that the CM in that merge position is alone and has no phone to call for security or the manager. The CMs were basically told to use "their best judgment" but to avoid leaving their actual post to get to a phone to call for help. And when it is bad enough to leave their post and call for back up, it seldom arrives in a timely basis and if it does, nothing happens to the badly behaving guest. This was true even of the guest who SLAPPED my family friend -- absolutely nothing happened to her. (And my friend ended up with a hand-print shaped bruise on her arm for two weeks.)
So why should the CM do anything? It's easier and safer to let a guest behave badly and just get them thru the line asap. A significant part of the problem is that the way Disney is run, bad behavior is rewarded.
My advice is that if you see guest behavior that is upsetting and harms your enjoyment of the park, report it to guest services. If enough people complained, maybe they'd increase the number of CMs, give them communication devices, and have the managers back them up instead of placating the bad guests.
Uncalled for...seriously...
Honestly in the case of someone cutting like that I would make it an issue with the CM. As in telling them I was next and putting in my order. If I wasn't served next I would be asking for a manager and filling a complain about the CM and guest services for allowing it.
Why take it out on the CM? Because unfortunately the reason rude people can do this is Disney knows that the rude people will make a bigger issue. Nicer people won't make a confrontation so to avoid conflict they let the rude people do whatever. If the rule followers start causing a confrontation with the CM so that they have to deal with an angry guest no matter what maybe the rules will be enforced.