If that is the case, then I would blame the desperate need for more maintenance. When we last visited I don't think I'd ever seen the rides go down as often as they did, and it was very often. That backs things up substantially across the whole park because now people are going to ride other things when they see that it's down, not to mention the people stuck on the ride and in the queue.
That's great! I can't see my son being comfortable just hanging out in these lines alone or vice versa having him sit alone while I wait in line if he was the one who needed DAS. That option just really doesn't work for groups of two especially if one of those two are a kiddo.
Wow, great information- so this really could skew the percentages!
Those people wouldn't have been allowed to get into the line thought, would they?
possibly - before my need for DAS I often had the CM just switch blue to green because it was so close...
Were the "watchers" looking to see if these people got in the line or were they concentrating on the blue light? There is no way of knowing w/out them weighing in.
please see my clarification above! The concern is that criteria Disney might consider should not include, focus, or reference a list of diagnoses. Even starting down a path of "developmental conditions such as austim" may be too constraining.
If they were too early (or didn’t have a LL to start with) they would most likely be turned away afterwards.
This has always been my solution to the people who climb up on you like this in line. It's so much easier to let them go ahead (and be someone else's problem!). The poking thing did warrant a comment though! Mom should have done something about that sooner.
They were counting ppl as far as I understood, not lights.
Yeah, I remember Len saying on the podcast that they (Touring Plans) had people (their data collectors) watching and counting people tapping in. I don’t know how y’all feel about that, but I find it feels like an invasion of privacy, I know anyone can see the tap light, but whether I’m using DAS or G+ or whatever is between me and Disney and a third party company not affiliated with Disney shouldn’t be allowed to collect that kind of data from guests.At this point, I honestly am not sure if this is actually what I read, or what I’ve extrapolated - perhaps mistakenly - from what I’ve read, so please correct me if it’s wrong… my understanding was that the LT data was conducted by watching tap-ins at HM, with the assumption that a blue light = DAS user, and then those who immediately follow the DAS user are their party.
I haven’t ever paid attention to the color of other people’s tap-ins, so despite my frequent park visits, I’ve not got even anecdotal data on that for comparison. I can say that HM is one of very few attractions at which I’ve ever seen a LL backup, so I understand using it as an example… but at the same time is it a fair comparison with the dozens of other attractions at which the LL rarely if ever back up? This feels like math and I’m not math-y.
One other thing I keep thinking about is perception of wait time and when does a LL wait end. Using HM as the example again, I’ve sometimes happened to arrive at the LL right behind multiple other parties and it takes a few minutes for them all to get tapped and into the actual queue: I don’t consider that part of my wait time. Once I’ve tapped in, I consider the LL wait time to be the walk from tapstiles to the point where LL merges with Standby - where we all congregate as a mass in the courtyard before the entry doors. Any additional waiting in that courtyard, in the stretching room, in the indoor portion of the queue, I do not consider part of the LL wait time, though it is part of my total amount of time waiting to board the ride. That distinction, depending on the attraction, can be a difference between a 5-min wait or a 20-min wait. I’d like to have a better understanding of what these reports of rampant 30+ minute waits for LL users are based on, because while a 30+ minute wait could be problematic for a DAS user in general, if only 5 mins of that was in the actual LL lane, the DAS/LL isn’t the problem. Maybe it’s a problem in that if most of that HM courtyard is full of DAS/LL users, it’s causing longer waits in Standby, but reducing the number of DAS parties entering via LL isn’t going to change how long the wait is from merge point to ride boarding for everyone: that’s still going to be filled to capacity on a busy day, as are the stretching rooms and indoor queue. ETA: I mean to mention, too, that I frequently submit wait time data to the TP app and it specifically wants users to wait to hit Submit until they are *about to board*, so their data is including the LL AND
Not without their permission anyway! It is private property at the end of the day, and not public.
Thank you for sharing. I apologize if it came off as if I didn’t understand that walking in one would cause pain when it’s more than average daily use of the foot. I had additional posts that went into more detail but they were removed to clean up the thread since I quoted the person in them. I understand Disney is an extreme situation and not what was in mind with daily walking use with the boot.
As I posted above, "There is no way of knowing w/out them weighing in."
So she meant May 1 ,it was going to be you and spouse. Two weeks before trip, 2 grown kids can make trip after all, but can’t be added?
