Beware of Very Cold Lazy River

[DLgal]

If you want to count dues, then you have to count resale, and the fact that you could very well ultimately get back your purchase price…both of which massively shift the equation in favor of DVC.

Not counting resale is ridiculous as well. But if you don’t travel much and aren’t inclined to leave the Anaheim area, DVC wouldn’t be a good fit.

But then if you count resale you have to discuss inflation as well. So, if you buy for $25,000 and then sell 25 years later for $25,000, you still lost money.

 

[AstroBlasters]

But then if you count resale you have to discuss inflation as well. So, if you buy for $25,000 and then sell 25 years later for $25,000, you still lost money.

I just created a quick spreadsheet comparing a week in a 1Bd Ocean View Villa in June with a 25% discount (which you can not get with Military, Visa, Magic Key) for 20 years. If you earned 7% on an investment instead of buying into DVC you would still loose by $25k over 20 years if you sold DVC with a depreciation of 3% per year.

 

[JC1984]

I just created a quick spreadsheet comparing a week in a 1Bd Ocean View Villa in June with a 25% discount (which you can not get with Military, Visa, Magic Key) for 20 years. If you earned 7% on an investment instead of buying into DVC you would still loose by $25k over 20 years if you sold DVC with a depreciation of 3% per year.

This is getting really nerdy real fast … awesome though “oh I just whipped this up real quick”

 

[AZMermaid]

Well back on topic…. A fresh report of cold pools has surfaced on social media. But someone else posted a picture of tons of people in the pool. But those people all looked to be about 10 and 10 year olds are brave souls.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Resale is an interesting factor. I can sell my VGC for over double what I paid for it and Aulani for a bit more than I paid. So if I were to sell, my only cost is actually my dues. In that case, a week at Aulani in a one bedroom villa costs me roughly $2000. But I’m not planning on selling so not sure where that leaves me- lol! it works for some, not for others- but we love our DVC… especially when the pools are warm!

The pools are indeed warm today!

 

[Paul Stupin]

I just created a quick spreadsheet comparing a week in a 1Bd Ocean View Villa in June with a 25% discount (which you can not get with Military, Visa, Magic Key) for 20 years. If you earned 7% on an investment instead of buying into DVC you would still loose by $25k over 20 years if you sold DVC with a depreciation of 3% per year.

Thank you!

 

[Paul Stupin]

But then if you count resale you have to discuss inflation as well. So, if you buy for $25,000 and then sell 25 years later for $25,000, you still lost money.

But then I’m not counting actual appreciation either. Many people who hold for years sell for more than they bought. I think you’re grasping at straws.

 

[DLgal]

I just created a quick spreadsheet comparing a week in a 1Bd Ocean View Villa in June with a 25% discount (which you can not get with Military, Visa, Magic Key) for 20 years. If you earned 7% on an investment instead of buying into DVC you would still loose by $25k over 20 years if you sold DVC with a depreciation of 3% per year.

The numbers don't work FOR US. You won't convince me. I've earned far more than 7% on my investments over the last 20 years. And inflation was, what, 8% last year?

 

[AstroBlasters]

The numbers don't work FOR US. You won't convince me. I've earned far more than 7% on my investments over the last 20 years. And inflation was, what, 8% last year?

I’m not trying to convince you. I’m trying to show others that they should do their own math based on their personal situation. If my math was wrong in any way, please feel free to show me yours.


“Paul Stupin said:
If you go to Disney resorts regularly, you might want to run the numbers for DVC. The savings are substantial.

DLgal said:
No they aren't. There will always be public discounts offered. I've done the math. It's never worked out to be any savings at all, just a massive expenditure and loss of opportunity costs on the upfront purchase.”

 

[To the honeypots]

I too am seeing lots of reports of cold pools on social media again.

 

[DLgal]

I too am seeing lots of reports of cold pools on social media again.

They turned off the heaters again...

 

[CampbellzSoup]

Very concerning aulani is suppose to be a five star experience and the pools are everything

 

[lilsonicfan]

I am fascinated by the DVC talk.... I would bring the popcorn except popcorn and pools do not mix!

 

[Paul Stupin]

They turned off the heaters again...

Well I’m here right now and the lazy river wasn’t cold at all today.

 

[808blessing]

The outdoor pool up the road at Kapolei 24 hr fitness was freezing the other day fwiw. I got in jacuzzi for a bit then back to the pool andnwalked down the stairs slowly. I adjusted just fine and doing warm laps within a minute. #tipsforthecoldblooded

 

[MainStreetMouse]

So is the lazy river still cold? Lol

 

[JC1984]

Well I’m here right now and the lazy river wasn’t cold at all today.

Jeeze Paul seems like you been there a month now are you squatting?

 

[AustinTink]

I'm more interested in the better discounts. I could use some better discounts!

We’re staying at Aulani on a 35% discount. I was tickled pink to book at that rate!

 

[Paul Stupin]

Jeeze Paul seems like you been there a month now are you squatting?

Ha! We’re secretly camping out behind the stage on the Halawai lawn. Gets a little noisy on luau night, but we’re used to it. Actually, saying farewell to paradise tomorrow to fly back to LA, alas. It’s been a great trip!

 

[JC1984]

We just hit our 11 month today and went to book Aulani for next January and the kids convinced me it is time to go to FL so another 4 month wait for OKW