Sister Wives

[mom2rtk]

I think the only time she lived under the same roof was that first rental house in Vegas where they stayed for a couple weeks until they found something more permanent.

And yes, I agree. I think that was one of the things that caused everything to start coming apart at the seems. They seemed so much more cohesive in the very beginning when they all lived in the one big house. I think there wasn't room for Robyn to have her own apartment so that's why she lived in a rental down the street.

Did they have an expectation that they could all live together? Because short of building that crazy expensive "one house" out on Coyote Pass, they were never going to find a place that would fit the entire family.

 

[mom2rtk]

while i think robyn has been a factor in the issues with the extended family i always feel too much blame has been put on her-

the pre-existing family had major issues prior to her inclusion which were so bad at one point that janelle and her kids left,

the pre-existing family had been uprooted and moved many times for years over the objections of one or more of the wives,

when robyn entered the picture the existing older kids were entering what i think most parents will agree can be some of the challenging parenting (and as a result-coupling) years.


add all of these factors together, mix in kody's paranoia and the great exodus to vegas and yeah-he's going to default to the wife who is still buying into the big, happy, mutualy supporting 'super family' with the priest head being kody. kody was still trying to believe this was their standing despite them living for endless time in separate residences across vegas, then in the houses that while next door to each other were in no way mutual homes.

i think that what has brought all of this to a head so dramaticaly now is-

the majority of the kids are adults, parenting adults is vastly different than parenting little kids. kody neither acknowledges nor respects his adult children's autonomy in making their own decisions (he demands to be the leader of all with no questioning). the kids are questioning and coming to their own conclusions which does not mesh with kody's,

when janelle left years ago it was physically, she did not take any assetts or income with her-she continued to pool money with the remainder of the family so he still had a tether of control. when christine left she (rightfully) demanded her assetts and walked-he has no control over her what so ever. kody is a control freak and to not have control over esp. the woman he has publicly said/written that he feels he did a favor to by marrying has to be driving him bat s--- nuts. that she is living so publicly happy, that 'her' children as well as janelle's are supportive and celebrating of her independance is likely a huge betrayal in his mind.

i think robyn bought into what tlc bought into when the show was pitched-one big happy family co-habitating together, 'love should be multiplied not divided'. i think she has said the same things to kody that all the rest said over the years about settling down and staying in one place (granted-it was where her oldest wanted to go to college), taking a more active part in their younger kid's lives...it's that he has bought into it with her to the exclusion of the remainder of his wives and children (i believe the pandemic compounded it and allowed allot of festering issues to come to the surface and finaly be addressed-issues that predated robyn entirely).

We will never know exactly who did what in reality, only what they have presented on the show. But I do recall Christine saying on the couch that she offered to babysit Robyn's kids but she turned her down. Instead brought in her niece to take care of them in her home. That makes me question her desire to really mingle with those other kids. And without mingling like that, her kids were always going to feel separate and left out.

To me the biggest problem has always been Robyn inserting herself in between her kids and the others. That first Covid Thanksgiving instead of explaining that the other moms wanted to see their adult kids, as she would want to do in the same situation, she chose to tell those kids Christine and Janelle didn't want to see THEM. I gasped when she said that. She poisoned those kids against the others. And the way they smack talked Savannah's new home (asking if her bedroom in the trailer was where the dogs slept) they didn't help themselves either.

 

[mom2rtk]

this is disturbing on a whole new level.

I will saw Ariella is definitely "young" for her age. I still remember the scene from last season when Christine was leaving and Ariella darted out mocking Christine about getting remarried, and immediatley retreated to behind Robyn.

That "HAVE DATES" scene was shocking to me and really indicative of how she is never told when her behavior is inappropriate.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

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We will never know exactly who did what in reality, only what they have presented on the show. But I do recall Christine saying on the couch that she offered to babysit Robyn's kids but she turned her down. Instead brought in her niece to take care of them in her home. That makes me question her desire to really mingle with those other kids. And without mingling like that, her kids were always going to feel separate and left out.

To me the biggest problem has always been Robyn inserting herself in between her kids and the others. That first Covid Thanksgiving instead of explaining that the other moms wanted to see their adult kids, as she would want to do in the same situation, she chose to tell those kids Christine and Janelle didn't want to see THEM. I gasped when she said that. She poisoned those kids against the others. And the way they smack talked Savannah's new home (asking if her bedroom in the trailer was where the dogs slept) they didn't help themselves either.

On last weeks show Robyn stated she had to hire a nanny because Kody is too busy to help her with the kids. Yet the other wives did not have that luxury when their kids were little. When they had 13 kids running around. They helped each other. And Robyn had Mykelti stay with her to help her with her kids before she even married or had biological kids with Kody. She would rather have Mykelti watch them than another sister wife.

 

[mom2rtk]

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On last weeks show Robyn stated she had to hire a nanny because Kody is too busy to help her with the kids. Yet the other wives did not have that luxury when their kids were little. When they had 13 kids running around. They helped each other. And Robyn had Mykelti stay with her to help her with her kids before she even married or had biological kids with Kody. She would rather have Mykelti watch them than another sister wife.

My jaw hit the floor with that comment. Especially since we had heard Christine make that comment earlier in the series about Robyn turning her down.

And Robyn saying she needed extra help, after Christine watched (and I think homeschooled) 13 kids with no other help, said a lot to me. It doesn't seem like Robyn's expectations were appropriately set for what polygamy is really like.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

My jaw hit the floor with that comment. Especially since we had heard Christine make that comment earlier in the series about Robyn had turned her down.

And Robyn saying she needed extra help, after Christine watched (and I think homeschooled) 13 kids with no other help, said a lot to me. It doesn't seem like Robyn's expectations were appropriately set for what polygamy is really like.

Then Robyn is upset at the bonds everyone else has that her kids don't have. Well maybe if your kids spent some time with their siblings they would be closer and have that bond. Christine essentially raised all of the children and is still very close with all of them.....except for Robyn's kids. Robyn wants what she wants but doesn't want to do what needs to be done to get those results. Don't complain that your kids aren't close or even know some of their siblings if you refused to let them be together like the original 13 grew up.

 

[tink2424]

Then Robyn is upset at the bonds everyone else has that her kids don't have. Well maybe if your kids spent some time with their siblings they would be closer and have that bond. Christine essentially raised all of the children and is still very close with all of them.....except for Robyn's kids. Robyn wants what she wants but doesn't want to do what needs to be done to get those results. Don't complain that your kids aren't close or even know some of their siblings if you refused to let them be together like the original 13 grew up.

So agree... That is why her & Kody are perfect for each other. They are both delusional and unwilling to accept their role in anything.

 

[happily single]

That "HAVE DATES" scene was shocking to me and really indicative of how she is never told when her behavior is inappropriate.

thank you for this. I knew the jist of it, but has having trouble with the exact words she used.

 

[barkley]

But I do recall Christine saying on the couch that she offered to babysit Robyn's kids but she turned her down. Instead brought in her niece to take care of them in her home. That makes me question her desire to really mingle with those other kids. And without mingling like that, her kids were always going to feel separate and left out.

given that we've learned that christine's own son paedon and daughter gwendolyn were not permitted to be alone and unsupervised by an adult even in recent years due to paydeon's admitted domestic assault against his younger sibling, along with at least one scene that aired years go wherein the (then) teenish boys got into a physical and verbal fight on a family outing that had to be broken up by the adults...i don't know that i would have been comfortable taking any of the other wives up on offers babysitting. i like christine allot but her home always seemed to be the loudest and most actively overrun with kids which for some folks can cause concern with very small kids/toddlers/infants.

 

[pindecisive]

kody (and company) were selling what they thought (aspired) for the family dynamic to be, robyn was on the outside looking in at what kody and company were allowing her to see/marketing to tlc. tlc was smart enough to know there were cracks/potential for collapse-robyn to my mind, not so much (i think she had a very narrow viewpoint when the courtship/initial marriage occured).

I find it very hard to believe that Kody and Robyn didn't have conversations about the other wives prior to their marriage. Especially considering they broke the no affection expectation the other wives had and lied about their first kiss and about Kody picking out Robyn's dress.

They started their marriage with lies to the other wives. That's pretty clear.

 

[Dakota731]

I have never heard her once say "Janelle's kids don't want to spend Christmas with Kody, myself and my kids." She never includes Kody in it.

I know a big gripe of hers is that her kids were not part of the group or accepted when she came into the family. I don't think she is or was being realistic. You are talking about 13 kids that grew up together and formed bonds since birth. Including Robyn's 3 older kids and making them feel like they are 100% part of the sibling group is going to take time. I think she thought once she married Kody it was going to be all sweet and lovely and perfect. Very unrealistic. I get being upset that your kids don't feel included or part of the group but I think that was the beginning of her filling her kids heads up with crap that the family doesn't like them or they are outsiders, etc. She should've stepped back and used some logic instead of being overly emotional about the whole thing. Also Solomon and Ariella are so much younger than most of the kids. It's hard to form that bond when you are almost 20 and your little brother was just born.

My kids are 23 and 17 and have a 4 year old little sister (by their father). They try their best to be around for their little sister but it is hard and my kids are much closer than they are to the 4 year old. It doesn't mean they don't love her or accept her. It's just a different dynamic.

I think the other kids did really include Robyn’s children in the beginning. I saw many episodes where the older kids played with them and spent a lot of time with them. They were all loving big brothers and sisters. Kody’s paranoia over covid really seemed to change that. He wouldn’t attend Ysabel’s surgery, he ostracized Janelle’s boys for having normal lives and friends during this time, and he totally kept Robyn’s kids isolated from the family for several years. Of course, as a result, they no longer were as close as they once were and naturally Christine’s and Janelle’s kids began to resent the only kids Kody spent time with any more.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think the other kids did really include Robyn’s children in the beginning. I saw many episodes where the older kids played with them and spent a lot of time with them. They were all loving big brothers and sisters. Kody’s paranoia over covid really seemed to change that. He wouldn’t attend Ysabel’s surgery, he ostracized Janelle’s boys for having normal lives and friends during this time, and he totally kept Robyn’s kids isolated from the family for several years. Of course, as a result, they no longer were as close as they once were and naturally Christine’s and Janelle’s kids began to resent the only kids Kody spent time with any more.

I’m still not sure if K/R were that crazed over Covid or if Kody just saw it as the ultimate weapon of control. A perfect way to make everyone pledge and show their loyalty.

He miscalculated though and assumed everyone would fall in line. Turns out that when you push too hard, moms choose their kids and kids choose their moms. Especially when you have been absent and relying on parenting by proxy.

 

[Dakota731]

Christine had a great point tonight. Kody keeps saying that his marriages with Janelle and Christine can’t be saved unless they have great relationships with Robyn. And yet Meri has always had a wonderful sister relationship with Robyn, and yet Kody still doesn’t want to be married to Meri so that can’t be the real issue.

 

[BellaBaby]

Wait, no comments on last night's show--when Kody said Janelle is only interested in his 6 pack abs and great pecs? LOL

 

[happily single]

Not sure if it been reported, but a wedding registry for Christine was leaked. It’s since been removed, but she’s getting married Columbus Day weekend

 

[Claudia1]

Janelle kept trying to make the point that he hadn't seen his daughter for 6 weeks and he kept deflecting it. I feel bad for her that its on tape for her and the world to see.

 

[brockash]

Janelle kept trying to make the point that he hadn't seen his daughter for 6 weeks and he kept deflecting it. I feel bad for her that its on tape for her and the world to see.

He seems to feel his relationship with his kids is their moms responsibility. So insane and really just sad.

 

[Gracedis1]

I would love to see Kody in a therapy session where he gets challenged, ideally by a male therapist, that he is responsible for a healthy relationship with his kids. He has already alienated most of his wives. But these kids didn't ask to be in this family and they deserve a mentally healthy dad who makes time for them.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Kody is seriously delusional. He twisted every single thing Janelle said this last episode. It was crazy to watch.

And he thinks Janelle used him? She’s been the biggest financial supporter for that family for YEARS. She also gave tons of money for Robyn to buy her house. Janelle has nothing now since they sucked her dry.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

He seems to feel his relationship with his kids is their moms responsibility. So insane and really just sad.

He sounds like a typical dead beat dad. This is usually their favorite line.