Signature Dress Code Language Change

I think Disney is bowing to the increasingly casual customer. When we dined at Jiko several years ago, DH was reminded at check-in to please remove his cap. He's a golfer and so used to wearing one, he'd forgotten-but no problem, off it went. Yet, when we were there last month, we saw several people wearing caps. Plus, of course, I wonder if Disney is afraid they won't get guests to go to Signature restaurants and spend lots of money if they have to dress up at all.
 
I think Disney is bowing to the increasingly casual customer. When we dined at Jiko several years ago, DH was reminded at check-in to please remove his cap. He's a golfer and so used to wearing one, he'd forgotten-but no problem, off it went. Yet, when we were there last month, we saw several people wearing caps. Plus, of course, I wonder if Disney is afraid they won't get guests to go to Signature restaurants and spend lots of money if they have to dress up at all.
I don't think there's anything recent about their failure to enforce dress codes. I was at the California Grill on my honeymoon 11 years ago and the dining room was full of basketball shorts and flip flops.
 
I don't think there's anything recent about their failure to enforce dress codes. I was at the California Grill on my honeymoon 11 years ago and the dining room was full of basketball shorts and flip flops.
I agree. I don't think I've ever seen the dress code enforced at any of the signature dining restaurants I've been to (never been to Victoria and Albert's).
 
Didn’t a previous version list specific gender suggestions? Ie: men should wear, women should wear…. This version would be gender inclusive.

But they could have also used a generic suggestions list such as collard shirts, business casual attire, dresses, etc. the reader could infer what fit them.
 
Can’t say I spend a lot of time looking and thinking about what other people are wearing at a restaurant.
Do you wear shorts to a wedding? If not, why not? Should Tower of Terror cast members switch to plain blue golf shirt uniforms with a DisneyParks logo on the chest? If not, why not?

Sometimes certain environments call for certain attire. Atmosphere matters. I don't want to have what's supposed to be a fine dining experience surrounded by people dressed like slobs.
 
Do you wear shorts to a wedding? If not, why not? Should Tower of Terror cast members switch to plain blue golf shirt uniforms with a DisneyParks logo on the chest? If not, why not?

Sometimes certain environments call for certain attire. Atmosphere matters. I don't want to have what's supposed to be a fine dining experience surrounded by people dressed like slobs.
We had guests show up in jeans at our wedding made no difference what’s so ever. It didn’t even slightly take away from the event. It meant way more to me that they made it then what they wore.

When I’m dining I pay attention to my friends And family I’m not paying attention to everyone else. If restaurants really cared they would stop you at the door.
 
Just got home from a week, and Disney has no dress code anymore. Since no one pays attention to specific instructions I think they are just putting it out there that they expect a certain level of clothing to match the location. Will it help? Likely not. Will they do anything about it? Likely not.

At at Signature Restaurant for dinner. My seat faced people entering and a table in front of us. I would say close to 20% were outright dressed inappropriately for the location. Table across from us, man shows up in old graphic tshirt, shorts and crocs. He promptly kicked off his crocs and sat there barefoot, feet all over the place.

Magic Kingdom saw a woman in a one piece skirt bathing suit barely covering her bottom. NO it was not a tennis dress, it was not a sundress, it was not athletic wear. It was a bathing suit.

Animal Kingdom saw a woman in a string bikini top. STRINGS, two of them connected to two small triangles covering the required area. Most of her girls were showing. Wore with low riding cutoffs, as small as a bikini bottom.

Could go on ... but the point is there is no code, Disney enforces no code and it's sad.
 
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I am not sure where dress codes are enforced anymore. I have been to Michelin star restaurants where there were people in sweat pants and tee shirts. Granted they were clean and well presented but a far cry from any dress code. Years ago I have been to places that enforced a Jacket code. Personally I do not care how people dress. I do however think Disney is looking for problems as nothing is listed and what is considered appropriate to one CM may not be to another and a guest can argue either way. No reason they could not have listed examples without assigning a Gender. Ripped up Jeans that have been buried in the ground (and this IS a designer thing adding hundreds to the original absurd price) with a Logo Tee is neat and clean in the fashion world sweat pants work as well. Dressier clothes are considered traditional.
 
Do you wear shorts to a wedding? If not, why not? Should Tower of Terror cast members switch to plain blue golf shirt uniforms with a DisneyParks logo on the chest? If not, why not?

Sometimes certain environments call for certain attire. Atmosphere matters. I don't want to have what's supposed to be a fine dining experience surrounded by people dressed like slobs.
Tower of terror would still operate the same if they did. So trash, if they needed to save money sure. Would make no difference in the end.

me husband has worn shorts to a wedding
 
I am not sure where dress codes are enforced anymore. I have been to Michelin star restaurants where there were people in sweat pants and tee shirts. Granted they were clean and well presented but a far cry from any dress code. Years ago I have been to places that enforced a Jacket code. Personally I do not care how people dress. I do however think Disney is looking for problems as nothing is listed and what is considered appropriate to one CM may not be to another and a guest can argue either way. No reason they could not have listed examples without assigning a Gender. Ripped up Jeans that have been buried in the ground (and this IS a designer thing adding hundreds to the original absurd price) with a Logo Tee is neat and clean in the fashion world sweat pants work as well. Dressier clothes are considered traditional.
I agree completely, and I said the same in a Cruise Line thread when it came to "formal night." If you don't want to have a dress code, fine. If you do want to have a dress code, that's fine too, but you need to define it and enforce it. It's not fair to guests who DO care about dress code as an element of dining room atmosphere and make reservations expecting one thing and getting another.
 
I don't think the gender-neutral language explanation was "pot stirring". That was honestly my first thought as well. To me it wasn't a political or controversial thing, just a "oh, that's nice that they're no longer separating what men and women are expected to wear"

If it was simply a "lowering of standards", why wouldn't they just do away with even writing anything about having a dress code at all? I think the way it's written makes it clear that there is a certain expectation/standard, but not specific rules that the cast members need to worry about trying to enforce.
 
Then don't. You can stay home if how other people decide to dress somehow ruins the experience for you.
As I've said, I don't care how people dress. I care how people dress when there's a published dress code. If there's a published dress code, people should follow it and Disney should enforce it.

If Disney advertises an event saying "It's a Small World" will be playing throughout the evening, and people make reservations based on that information, then they shouldn't have "Circle of Life" playing. I don't actually care to attend a an event playing "It's a Small World" music all night, but they shouldn't be advertising one experience and providing another.
 
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Nice shorts (not cargo), cap removed, and a polo/golf shirt for me. Always guarantees that I’ll feel like I made much more of an effort than a fair number of other diners in a signature.

That "outfit" will serve you well in most situations in Florida I have found.
 
On our last trip in June I asked my sister what was happening, because at our meal at Yachstman people were literally wearing sports tops and shorts like they just walked out of the park to eat dinner.
 
I always love to read comments on the posts about dress at signature restaurants. I am in the camp of what other people are wearing in now way affects my enjoyment of my dinner. I honestly can't even remember what anyone was wearing near us at any signature we have ever eaten at. Disney is a theme park resort - I think it is silly to expect people to pack a whole separate wardrobe just because they want to eat nicer dinners.
 

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