Disboutiquers Part 25 Kids Disney Boutique / Customs Clothes psst..we sew ;-)

[DMGeurts]

My first sewing project not near perfect but wearable

Super cute! I think they turned out fabulous! That is how I learned to sew - drooling over everything I saw in this thread.

I wanted to post some photos from our trip last year, as sort of a re-introduction, I haven't been on here very much and I plan on starting to work on outfits for this years trip soon. Anyway, my name is Lisa, my dd is 8 and thankfully she still loves to wear outfits that I make for her.

Quite a lady like pose !!!

I loved this outfit, easy fits and simply sweet top !!

Adorable!!! Welcome back! I can't wait to see what you make for this trip.

Here are a few more from our trip last year, time to get working on outfits for this year

This is the buzz lightyear comic strip fabric, in a portrait peasant with polka dot sleeves and easy fits !

Twirl skirt with some colorful Mickey fabrics !!

Simply sweet with princess fabric and a crown applique at the top, that Duffy is covering !!

Awww... I love them!

Hi Everyone!!

Ready for a little princess to spoil? Little Brooke was diagnosed with a cancerous Wilms Tumor last summer. At only 2 and a half years old and with a newborn baby sister, she was such a trooper and full of joy. She endured all of her treatments, and is now ready for a celebration. Ariel is her favorite princess, and she is just so excited with anything Under the Sea! These are frilly little girlies with lots of style - lol - and they are flying to Disney all the way from Canada! The ship date is August 6, 2011! Thanks so much for checking this one out - 2 little girls to doll up - Baby stuff is needed!! too!!

Thanks so much - can't wait to see who gets there first

Ack!!! Must go log into the BG board!

Oooh - these are really cute! If this is what you can make the first time you paint something... WOW - you need to make some more!

here are a few pillowcase dresses i made last weekend,i love the darker roses and the paisley prints best. I work in a daycare center adn took these and a couple of skirt/shirt sets i had made nd hung them up to see if they would sell...it ws a no go,lots of attention but no one bought anything,the 2 piece sets were $15 and these 3 pc dresses for $10 each.I think many of the parents have no clue about these kinds of clothes.I did have one mom go gaga over the paisley dress but her baby girl just turned one but she siad if i made a peasent top with capri's she'd get it! she also said i was asking too little for the clothes...made me feel good. My oldest dd works in an office nd i think the ladies there may be interested.Gonna make some fall themed things and she will share pix and see what happens. not wanting togo into buisness but i can only make so much for my g'daughter's and gifts for friends kids. anyway i wanted t share...thank s for looking!

here are 2 of the painted tee's my dd made for our 2008 trip,i need to get her to paint on jeans to go with tops i make...
Elli designed it herself...

Blaze's,partially covered by his balloon...but you get the idea

These are really great! I love the pillow case dresses - I am sure that once the word gets out that you make some adorable clothes - that people will be coming to you asking you to sew things for them.

D~ <----- is heading upstairs to the sewing room to check out her ruffler foot...

 

[VBAndrea]

Hi Everyone!!

Ready for a little princess to spoil? Little Brooke was diagnosed with a cancerous Wilms Tumor last summer. At only 2 and a half years old and with a newborn baby sister, she was such a trooper and full of joy. She endured all of her treatments, and is now ready for a celebration. Ariel is her favorite princess, and she is just so excited with anything Under the Sea! These are frilly little girlies with lots of style - lol - and they are flying to Disney all the way from Canada! The ship date is August 6, 2011! Thanks so much for checking this one out - 2 little girls to doll up - Baby stuff is needed!! too!!

Thanks so much - can't wait to see who gets there first

The thread is locked so I currently e-mailed you what I would like to make -- plus added it to the sub-thread that was started since we can't reply on the proper thread. Thanks and Welcome Home! At least I think you are home!

 

[VBAndrea]

When I was in Nashville in June my neice had some hand painted disney bows. I thought they were adorable. I decided I would try to make one. Well here is my first try and I don't think it is that bad. Definately not perfect, and I am not a painter. It was also my first attempt at making a hair bow. I am going to try a princess one next.

Adorable! I would have never thought to paint on ribbon. That turned out awesome!

here are a few pillowcase dresses i made last weekend,i love the darker roses and the paisley prints best. I work in a daycare center adn took these and a couple of skirt/shirt sets i had made nd hung them up to see if they would sell...it ws a no go,lots of attention but no one bought anything,the 2 piece sets were $15 and these 3 pc dresses for $10 each.I think many of the parents have no clue about these kinds of clothes.I did have one mom go gaga over the paisley dress but her baby girl just turned one but she siad if i made a peasent top with capri's she'd get it! she also said i was asking too little for the clothes...made me feel good. My oldest dd works in an office nd i think the ladies there may be interested.Gonna make some fall themed things and she will share pix and see what happens. not wanting togo into buisness but i can only make so much for my g'daughter's and gifts for friends kids. anyway i wanted t share...thank s for looking!

here are 2 of the painted tee's my dd made for our 2008 trip,i need to get her to paint on jeans to go with tops i make...
Elli designed it herself...

Blaze's,partially covered by his balloon...but you get the idea

Very cute!

 

[dis4harley]

Here is an outfit I worked on this week.

 

[cogero]

I was out in NJ all day at my BFFs house. of course my son is still being a monster but BFF's DH is fabulous with him and so patient so it was great. This is the family coming on our December trip so it was funny talking in code so their DS didn't hear.

So much fabulous stuff has been posted today. I am just too tired and sunburnt to post right now LOL.

Oh and my DH always has to sit with his back to a wall and facing the door but I think that has to do with being a police officer

 

[Rockygirl1]

Oh and my DH always has to sit with his back to a wall and facing the door but I think that has to do with being a police officer

Definitley with being law enforcement! My DH does the same!

I have a good friend who both her and her DH are law enforcement... I asked her about sitting with her back to the door and she said she and her DH fight about it all the time!

 

[billwendy]

Those two little girls are precious. I am hoping to join the Big Give Club this fall. Right now I just have so much on my plate I am worried I wouldn't get something done in time.

When I was in Nashville in June my neice had some hand painted disney bows. I thought they were adorable. I decided I would try to make one. Well here is my first try and I don't think it is that bad. Definately not perfect, and I am not a painter. It was also my first attempt at making a hair bow. I am going to try a princess one next.

The bow looks GREAT!! We'd love to have you join the Big Give - you could join now and kind of watch what goes on and then sign up when you can. There is no pressure!

Well, we got home from Camp Promise last night. It was a WONDERFUL year to say the least, and we are already longing to go back next year. Although I love my regular job, I have the back to work blues (so thats why I posted the new big give).

Zoey travelled with us in her usual fasion

These cutie pies are a combo of kids from our church and the kids who live out there all in their Camp Promise shirts!!

Here is the director of Camp and his little boy resetting the Christmas Tree bowling that Chiara graciously helped me out with!!! Thanks Chiara!!

This is one of my favorite campers, Taylon - she was sneaking up on me in Arts and Crafts Class!

This is a cute little guy and his counselor Gerry. Gerry Feury is an ex Philadelphia Eagle - he was HUGE compared to this little guy, but what a great match they were - they were always so adorable together!!!

In general, my jobs were Arts and crafts

Swim Buddy

And evening review games - which included the pluck the turkey game which ended up being the hit of the week both weeks - it was hillarious!!!!! One of my friends that went with us from church had made a chicken costume for her son before, so she adapted a brown pair of PJ's I got. Then we used a foam block, some dowels, posterboard and a lot of feathers to make the feathers that the campers plucked from the turkey - the director did a GREAT job of hamming it all up!!!

This was my Matt's 7th year as well - he has gone from dishwasher to camp couselor and he just loves the campers - these 3 have practically grown up together!

Beautiful scenery

We were so happy to serve these wonderful campers!!! They are amazing and just teach us so much!! It was a cool year weatherwise, but the campers seemed calmer and more interactive than ever.....Bill has already started his count down for next year!! Thanks to everyone who thought and prayed for us the past 2 weeks!!!!

 

[mkwj]

The bow looks GREAT!! We'd love to have you join the Big Give - you could join now and kind of watch what goes on and then sign up when you can. There is no pressure!


Thank you. That is a good idea, maybe I will.

Beautiful scenery

This scenery is beautiful. Almost too pretty to be real. Seems peaceful and relaxing as well. It sounds like your family had a great time.

 

[miprender]

Back from Maine. We just hung around but boy I missed many pages.

Well I have decided to turn the kids playroom into a disney themed room. I need to make curtains for the double window. Anybody have ideas. I don't think I want to use mickey themed material, since it is expensive. I could embroider something on it. Also looking for other cute decorative ideas. I know I want to frame pictures from our trips, and I have some lithographs from The Little Mermaid when I bought the VHS years ago. I think that is what they are called. I have never opened them.

I can't wait to see your room. I have subtly been doing that to my bedroom. I am the one that has the mickey swirls on the pillow case. I also have an 18x20 photo collage (sp) from our trip in 2010 and will make one for this trip.

I also found at Target Mickey shaped soap dispensers.

havent been able to keep up very well lately, but I decided to try a new project and would like honest opinions...this is the first clay hair bow center I made last night...what do you all think, did it turn out ok? does it look like the real TS aliens?

thanks for letting me share!

That is so cute. You did a great job.

The Mom of my little Mito friend is 32 weeks pregnant. She has been sent home on bed rest, but they have told her if she goes back into labor they will take the baby. This is the longest she has ever carried one of her little ones. So far this has been an almost uneventful pregnancy.

She would like to carry it as long as possible, but at least until her husband comes home on Monday.
Nini

Praying that everthing is going well.

I FINALLY finished another Disney outfit for Annabella. This was a CASE spinoff of one of D's AG creations. Thank you for the inspiration D!!

I think this one will we worn in Hollywood Studios when the boys wear their Cars shirts.

That is so cute.

Here are some curtains I made for my sister today. More like a valance.

Nice.

I have been obsessed with this thread for weeks!! Love everything you guys do. Thank you so much for inspiring me. I am a quilter but LOVE seeing the gorgeous pieces you create. I am currently working on my DD8's bedroom. So far the valence and decorative pillows are complete. Waiting for the rest of my fabric to arrive to finish the bedspread. She picked out the fabric and helped me design the top. (I've never used a pattern before. Maybe that's why clothes terrify me. ) I hope I posted the photo correctly.

So pretty. Love the colors in the quilt.

Continued......

 

[miprender]

Has anybody ever made customs way in advance of their planned Disney trip? Specifically for growing kids? We're going back to the World in Oct of 2012 and I would really like to not be sewing/embroidering 24/7 for three months before we leave. So there will be six adults and two kids (9 and 3 at the time we go, one boy, one girl). I'm thinking the adults should be no problem, except that two might not go because of the finances. I could probably start doing shirts now and just hold them back in a closet until closer to the trip. Nobody seems to be gaining or losing more than 10 or 15 lbs at any given time. (hopeful thinking)

But with the kids, any suggestions? Should I make their clothes one size or two sizes above what they're wearing now? Or maybe just have the appliques done on plain cotton and either incorporate the panel into clothes or cut out the applique and straight stitch onto shirts?

Oh Help - Please Great Wise Sewers!!!!!

I was afraid to make mine too early. I started in January and just finished at the end of June.

Here's the fabric turned...not sure why the picture before was upright...

I like it with the stripes too.

My lime slice pillow, hand sewn, darker green areas are hot glued on

Cute.

Okay ... as promised, pictures from today (not great shots, but the kids were sort of DONE at this point):

Most of the crew (the rest went potty):

We moved outside to our "normal" movie picture location(we were still missing two friends, but one had to leave early and the other just didn't want his pic taken):

Finn showing off his McMissile ninja moves:

The lovebirds:

Grumpus:

The Boyz:

Sorry they're not resized, photobucket is acting crazy!!!!

Everything is so cute. I can't believe some Mom made a comment like that. As for the kids wearing the shirts over again...I bet they will. I had made princess shirts for DD's friends and was shocked to see them wearing them out almost a year later.

II finally got a little sewing done before the 4th. Both of these outfits were cased from this board.

And a shirt for my little cowgirl.

And some pirate t-shirts and shorts I did for a BG a while back.

Everything is so cute.

I have spent the day working on outfits for Ohana. The skirt has shorts attached underneath.

A Lion King outfit for Edward because Emily will wear the Jungle Book outfit I made last year. It was a little big so we will get 2 years out of it.

Up next are matching AK outfits for our second AK day!

Everything is so cute. I just love that fabric.

This is my current list of sites I have bookmarked if anyone is interested. And if anyone has any favorite sites not listed, please add them. I just got some of these off a Yahoo group so I haven't even looked at all of them and definitely have not ordered from all of them. I have been very happy with all the places I have ordered from though. I have designs by Heather Sue, Planet Applique, Embroidery Library, DB embroidery, and Applique Cafe (that I can remember).


http://www.planetapplique.com/

http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/default.aspx

http://froufroubyheathersue.com/

http://www.appliquecafe.com/

http://stores.bowsandclothes.com/StoreFront.bok

http://digistitches.com/

http://www.embroitique.com/

http://www.appliquechick.com/

http://stitchontime.com/osc/index.php?cPath=163

http://www.bunnycup.com/

http://www.simplyapplique.com/

http://www.designsbyjuju.com/

http://www.sweetpeasplace.com/

http://www.dbembroiderydesigns.com/

http://www.appliquemarket.com/

http://www.swakembroidery.com/

http://www.simplyapplique.com/

http://embroidery-boutique.com/

http://www.newfoundapplique.com/

http://www.urbanthreads.com/designs/machine_embroidery?category_id=12

WOW... Thanks I will have to save all these links as some are new to me.

We have never been to Ohana but I may have to book a trip there so we can wear cute outfits

We love Ohana's. So much we have a breakfast and dinner ADR for this trip.

Okay everyone, I have a favor to ask ... Can you please go read this blog post of Amber's? Can you share it with the world? Those of you I'm friends with on Facebook will probably notice, but we're going to do whatever we can to help get Team Saving Savannah to 3000 likes on Facebook before her 3rd birthday and we're also going to try to raise $3000 for the UMDF through our team page for the Energy For Life Walk ... The blog post has all the links you'd need ...

Pretty please? Just look at this one picture and then go read her blog post, please? Thank you!!!!

Continued again

 

[miprender]

I'm updating with my Rapunzel dress, as seen on my DD. I call it the "after haircut" Rapunzel

She also declared that baby sister needs one like it. So I'm going to embroider Pascal on a onesie and make a skirt out of the extra fabric.

So sweet. And the onsie will be adorable. I wish Flynn was still meeting but he left last week.

I want to cry I am working on an order I get all the way to the second to last change and the bobbin gets wonky. I switch out the bobbin thread and the shirt comes totally unhooped. I don't have another one in that color

I will be running out tomorrow to get another one.

I think I will be taking the night off.

I feel your pain. Glad your machine is working better now.

I am in a sewing slump. I am working on two Insa's but they just aren't coming together. I ran out of ric rack for one -- I'm short 4 inches and since Walmart downsized their fabric they no longer carry jumbo ric rac (or much in the way of fun colors) so it's a hike to go get some. For the other skirt I have a fringe trim on the bottom layer and can't figure out what to do with the overskirt. Nor do I have a t-shirt that matches

Instead of the 4 yards of fleece horse fabric that I paid $4 for I actually have 6 yards (that makes it 66 cents a yd! -- though I got shorted a wee bit on two bolts of two yards that I bought). I think I am going to make dd a snuggie out of it but I a)don't feel like measuring her b)want it to be a surprise so won't sew it until school starts and c) don't really need it until winter -- though dh does keep the house too cold for my liking.

I have some other fabric for winter pj bottoms but I don't feel like doing those in the summer.

I have other fabric I bought on sale with no purpose in mind and don't really like it. I bought it on line and most looked prettier on line.

And then I have a horse to put on a yard sale dress (embroidery fill) but even though it's on my flash drive it won't show up on my machine. Everything else I bought from them downloaded just fine. I tried downloading it again on my new computer but have no idea how to get it on to the flash drive!

And I did buy the Olivia but I don't feel like tracing it out. Ordering knits sounds like fun -- maybe I shall do that!

Any ideas to get me out of my slump? Any projects that I should try?

Hope you can get out of your sewing slump.

My oldest grandson Blaze loved Jungle Book when he was younger so when we went to WDW when he ws 3 in 2008 his Mom { my dd} painted shirts for them and he picked Baloo for his MK/CRT shirt.this was before i started learning to sew this past sept.

That is so cute.

Tomorrow starts week one of our "learning your sewing machine feet" spectacular. I think I've decided that we need to learn to use our ruffler foot first. I have the best luck when I start the hardest and work towards the easiest. So, dig out your ruffler foot, read up on Carla C's free ruffler foot tutorial: https://www.youcanmakethis.com/info/featured-products/free-the-ruffler-unruffled.htm Also, if you have a manual to your ruffler foot - you might want to read up on that. Every one is welcome to join us, and feel free to only participate in the weeks that interest you (or that you have feet for). I will be taking requests for next week's "Foot Of The Week" (FOTW).
D~

I'm in. I will try to follow though I don't have a ruffler foot for my sewing machine only the serger.

Here is a picture of her when her love affair of Donald Duck began. This is last October outside of Tusker house, she ran up to him and had a great conversation that only a toddler and Duck could have! She had just turned two.The shirt was big and as you can see the capri pants are a little long so we'll get two years out of this one.

That is jsut adorable.

I finished my nieces Rag Quilt. I loved how it turned out. Here are a couple of the Disney designs I used.... Please click on the photo album link below to see them all up close.

Photo Album: Click Here

Great job. That looks like alot of work went into it.

I feel really bad for dd... the storm we had this morning (65 mph winds for about a half hour) gave her garden wind damage. She is so upset - I can't blame her... All of her corn is tilted sideways - the rest looks like it's going to be OK. It's just too bad, because the corn was doing so good. I know it's kind of stupid... but a quick wish for her that her garden will come back (it's my oldest dd who doesn't sew, and this was her "summer project") - I would hate for her to lose interest because her garden didn't produce much.

D~

Sending pixie dust. DH puts alot of work into his garden and the last few years we only get a few tomatoes so I know how frustrating it can be.

Great job on the dresses.

I wanted to post some photos from our trip last year, as sort of a re-introduction, I haven't been on here very much and I plan on starting to work on outfits for this years trip soon. Anyway, my name is Lisa, my dd is 8 and thankfully she still loves to wear outfits that I make for her.

Quite a lady like pose !!!

I loved this outfit, easy fits and simply sweet top !!

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Love all the photos and outfits. Can't wait to see what you make this trip.

When I was in Nashville in June my neice had some hand painted disney bows. I thought they were adorable. I decided I would try to make one. Well here is my first try and I don't think it is that bad. Definately not perfect, and I am not a painter. It was also my first attempt at making a hair bow. I am going to try a princess one next.

Those came out great, especially for your first time.

here are a few pillowcase dresses i made last weekend,i love the darker roses and the paisley prints best. I work in a daycare center adn took these and a couple of skirt/shirt sets i had made nd hung them up to see if they would sell...it ws a no go,lots of attention but no one bought anything,the 2 piece sets were $15 and these 3 pc dresses for $10 each.I think many of the parents have no clue about these kinds of clothes.I did have one mom go gaga over the paisley dress but her baby girl just turned one but she siad if i made a peasent top with capri's she'd get it! she also said i was asking too little for the clothes...made me feel good. My oldest dd works in an office nd i think the ladies there may be interested.Gonna make some fall themed things and she will share pix and see what happens. not wanting togo into buisness but i can only make so much for my g'daughter's and gifts for friends kids. anyway i wanted t share...thank s for looking!

Those are cute. I hope you have better luck selling them at your DD's office.

Here is an outfit I worked on this week.

That is so cute. I was just at Carter's the other day and Monkey's are in.

 

[miprender]

Well, we got home from Camp Promise last night. It was a WONDERFUL year to say the least, and we are already longing to go back next year. Although I love my regular job, I have the back to work blues (so thats why I posted the new big give).

Zoey travelled with us in her usual fasion

back. I was following along of FB. Looks like you had a wonderful time and those pictures are just so beautiful. I love the rainbow picture. And Zoey is just too cute.

 

[DMGeurts]

Here is an outfit I worked on this week.

Adorable! My oldest dd loves monkeys.

I was out in NJ all day at my BFFs house. of course my son is still being a monster but BFF's DH is fabulous with him and so patient so it was great. This is the family coming on our December trip so it was funny talking in code so their DS didn't hear.

So much fabulous stuff has been posted today. I am just too tired and sunburnt to post right now LOL.

Oh and my DH always has to sit with his back to a wall and facing the door but I think that has to do with being a police officer

Sorry about ds being a monster, and I hope your sunburn feels better soon.

The bow looks GREAT!! We'd love to have you join the Big Give - you could join now and kind of watch what goes on and then sign up when you can. There is no pressure!

Well, we got home from Camp Promise last night. It was a WONDERFUL year to say the least, and we are already longing to go back next year. Although I love my regular job, I have the back to work blues (so thats why I posted the new big give).

Zoey travelled with us in her usual fasion

Zoey is so cute! Were you able to have her in the cabin there and back?

Wendy, I really want to thank you for sharing your Camp Promise pictures with us... It looks like such an amazing time! I also wanted to say that you (and everyone else here) really inspire me to do for others, I see what you do with the BG and Camp Promise - you really are a wonderful human being and I hope that many people remind you of that IRL.

D~

 

[teresajoy]

Just checking in! TMTQ though!

I've been in Toledo since Friday, but I did some quick scans while I was gone. We had a fabulous weekend, but it's nice to be home!

There were some awfully pretty things posted!

Wendy, I always love looking at your camp pictures!!! Thank you so much for sharing them.

 

[billwendy]

Thanks Guys!!

Zoey was in the cabin with us on the way there, but had to travel with my nephew Matt on the way home (he went home a day early for a wedding) because there was already 1 in cabin pet on the way home.

I think its amazing how we all work together to help others - its so cool!!!

 

[squirrel]

After showing my niece the Tiana/frog dress last weekend and her saying she wasn't going to wear it, I decided to make myself something.

This is what I made. I'm not happy with the front bodice as it is too low for me. Any ideas as to what I can do? Would some white lace along the top work? I didn't finish the bottom hem.

 

[livndisney]

After showing my niece the Tiana/frog dress last weekend and her saying she wasn't going to wear it, I decided to make myself something.

This is what I made. I'm not happy with the front bodice as it is too low for me. Any ideas as to what I can do? Would some white lace along the top work? I didn't finish the bottom hem.

You could add a white panel to raise up the neckline. I had to do that on one of DD dresses awhile ago. I tried a ruffle and it just drew attention to area, but the panel blended in.

 

[WyomingMomof6]

WOW! Painting is a talent I never had!

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We were there last October and I swear I saw that outfit on a little girl who rode the bus to AK with us! I always notice other kids in customs because there usually aren't that many, lol!

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Quite a lady like pose !!!

I loved this outfit, easy fits and simply sweet top !!

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Everything is great! My daughter is 7 and she still loves everything too. It will break my heart when she doesn't anymore.

Very cute, I wish I could do hairbows.

e nd hung them up !

Blaze's,partially covered by his balloon...but you get the idea

Love those!

 

[sheridee32]

Definitley with being law enforcement! My DH does the same!

I have a good friend who both her and her DH are law enforcement... I asked her about sitting with her back to the door and she said she and her DH fight about it all the time!

My husband and I both retired from the texas prison system this year and we both have to sit where we can see the door our kids no not to try and take those seats. It something that you just do you are trained to know your surroundings I go into a building and I naturally start looking for all the exits and check out all the people airports are wild.

 

[WyomingMomof6]

Do you have your own horses? Alexa started riding lessons in RI but we simply can't afford them here. Well, we can, but I am so scared that once our house goes back on the market it is going to sit empty so no horse lessons -- money goes into savings. I did horse camps on base last year for the kids but now my kids are in different age groups and they make a parent stay now until your child is 8 y/o. I have no clue what barrel racing is! I really don't know anything about horses other than that they cost a lot of money! My kids did English lessons too -- my dh said everything out west is western (he grew up in UT). I can't wait to see your next shirts. I am working on two sets right now of horse fabric skirts and will do matching t's but still need to get a t for one of the sets and trims for the skirts. I'm in no hurry b/c they will likely be school skirts and not summer play clothes.

We have a horse but my daughter's fiancee has 6 or 7 that my kids can ride. He grew up on a big ranch and competed in rodeo when he was growing up. In fact, he went to college on a rodeo scholarship. Barrel racing is a rodeo event. And yes, everything out here is Western. This is cowboy country, lol. I think the English riding costumes are cute but definitely would be a little out of place here.

Here is Alexa riding Mac (short for Macaroni).

Connor and my husband riding-Connor isn't nearly as into horses as Alexa is. He will ride for a little while and he's done. Alexa never gets enough.