Medical Emergency - Turning Ship Around

[JerseyBelle]

We were on the 11/9 3 day Wonder and the first night at roughly 10:00 pm there was an announcement that due to a medical emergency, the ship was being turned around and heading back to Port Canaveral.

I was wondering if anyone had any details about this incident. I heard on board that it was a child but I didn't know if that was just a rumor.

I hope that whatever the emergency was, that all is well. My heart goes out to the family and I have you in my prayers.

 

[ga9497]

I had a few clients on this sailing and they said it was a child.
One person let me know that they said the child will survive but it was a serious condition. The captain didn't get into specifics because he couldn't give that information out

 

[mommasita]

Gosh, this really stands our hair up on end, doesn't it? Thank god it seems like all will be OK. One quick thing, trip insurance is a must, you just never know. Prayers for the family.

 

[Buzz & Woody]

...that a child or someone will get hurt on a cruise. How terrible. Prayers for the child and family

 

[discruiselovers97]

Poor child! That is terrible! Did you all come back a day later?

 

[CastleCreations]

On the August 20th Wonder, we had a medical emergency and the morning of our Day at Sea, we were heading back into Nassau, again. I didn't recognize it because the day before it had been raining and it all looked different. Anyhow, we were back on track, within an hour.
Prayers to the family of the child. How sad..
Lisa

 

[JerseyBelle]

Poor child! That is terrible! Did you all come back a day later?

I wish. No we stayed in Nassau until 9:00 pm and arrived at Castaway Cay the normal time the next day.

 

[LisaBi]

We were on the 11/9 3 day Wonder and the first night at roughly 10:00 pm there was an announcement that due to a medical emergency, the ship was being turned around and heading back to Port Canaveral.

I was wondering if anyone had any details about this incident. I heard on board that it was a child but I didn't know if that was just a rumor.

I hope that whatever the emergency was, that all is well. My heart goes out to the family and I have you in my prayers.

How horrible for the family. Just out of curiosity, what did that do the itinerary? I've always wondered how they'd handle a serious emergency. Glad to hear that getting the sick person help is more important than the schedule.

 

[drclaws]

How horrible for the family. Just out of curiosity, what did that do the itinerary? I've always wondered how they'd handle a serious emergency. Glad to hear that getting the sick person help is more important than the schedule.

On a September Western last year we diverted close to Key West on the Thursday sea day to allow the Coast Guard to meet the ship to transfer a medical emergency. Captain came on the ship PA to let us know that we would be seeing land and that the ship would "slow" for a brief period to allow for a "passenger transfer."

 

[belle26]

We were also on the Wonder on the 9th; we were told by a CM that it was a little boy that had stopped breathing. At the Captain signing, the captain said that the child would be okay.
We were late arriving in Nassau, we arrived about noon. It threw off some shore excursions, but that was nothing compared to what that family was going through. My heart broke for the family.

 

[Seahunt]

I just read an article about a medical emergency on Princess with some elderly passenger that turned out to be a disaster for them, but it makes you really think about purchasing travel insurance when traveling out of the country

One moment, they were enjoying a pleasant 12-day Mediterranean cruise on the Grand Princess.

The next moment, they were stranded in Kusadasi, Turkey, unable to call home, $5,800 in debt and afraid.

How did Yvonne Boike of Berkley and her fianci, Nick Panos of St. Clair Shores, go from cruising delight to disaster in just a few short hours?

Their tale is not just a personal travel horror story. It's a wake-up call for anyone who cruises.

As cruise lines add exotic ports of call in distant destinations, passengers may not realize that in an emergency they will likely be dropped off at any port in a personal storm -- even a remote one in a faraway land.

When it happens, you'll be on your own. And travel insurance may not protect you.

"I'm still having nightmares," says Boike.

It started Sept. 7, when Panos woke up on day six of the cruise, sick to his stomach and coughing up blood.

The couple hurried to the ship's clinic. There, a doctor did about $1,000 worth of tests. Concerned that Panos had something more serious or contagious, he told them both would have to disembark and go to the hospital on shore.

Panos asked if they could delay until the cruise reached Greece, where he had friends.

No, said the doctor.

They asked whether Boike could remain aboard since she wasn't sick.

She couldn't.

A ship's nurse called their travel insurer, Travelex, and the couple was whisked off the ship into a Turkish ambulance in Kusadasi, a resort village in the Aegean Sea.

"I was in shock," says Boike. "But I assumed they would call our emergency contacts or the U.S. Embassy for us."

She assumed wrong.

Out to sea

Nearly 12 million people cruise worldwide each year. Almost none of them realize one major fact, says Mark Pastronk, a travel attorney in Washington, D.C.: "A cruise ship is not really a floating resort. It is more like a foreign country, and you're pretty much on your own.

"You are at sea, legally. American law doesn't apply to a cruise ship in the middle of the ocean. You're nowhere."

Cruise ship passengers can be put off wherever and whenever the staff sees fit. They don't have to take you back. They are also not obligated in an emergency to call your emergency contact.

"Every one of those is an 'it depends' type of thing," says Michael Crye, president of the International Council of Cruise Lines, which counts Princess as a member.

"Cruise lines generally have port agents who know the port and facility," he said. "They rely heavily on a port agent to handle medical arrangements and evacuations as necessary."

But what if something goes wrong? How does he suggest passengers protect themselves? "Consider taking out travel insurance."

Isolated in the hospital

Princess contends that Boike and Panos could have called family from the cruise ship, and that the policy is not to make the partner of an ill person disembark. Yet, the couple says they never had a chance to call their families, and Boike was forced off.

The couple were not cruise novices. It was Panos' 17th cruise and Boike's 10th. The two senior citizens were healthy when the cruise boarded in Rome, stopping at Monte Carlo, Florence, Naples and Kusadasi, en route to Greece.

Now, the couple found themselves at Kusadasi Private Hospital, in a room with a bed, folding couch, no working telephone, and no one who spoke English. For two days, they had no contact with the outside world. He lay sick in bed, an IV needle strapped to his hand.

Late the second day, a mysterious man came in and told them he was working with their insurance company. Boike used the man's cell phone to call her surprised daughter, Cindy Cobb, in New Hampshire.

"That's when we found out the cruise line had notified nobody," Boike says. "We disappeared and nobody even knew where we were."

Meanwhile, who was the mysterious man? Princess contends he was a representative of its port agent. Boike doubts it: "If he was from Princess, it was news to me."

By the time the phone in their room was finally fixed on the third day and they called Travelex, the agent told Boike, "We've been looking for you."

Buying travel insurance

Since 9/11, Americans have become more cautious world travelers. Thirty percent now take out trip insurance, and an estimated 1 in 6 of those will file a claim. Among cruise passengers, 70% take out insurance, according to the U.S. Travel Insurance Association. It costs between 4% and 8% of the trip cost, or about $160 for a $3,000 cruise.

"A lot of people get the cheapest thing, which is penny wise and dollar foolish," says Travelex spokeswoman Chris Buggy. Most important are medical coverage and a policy that pays for the unused portion of an interrupted trip.

Insurance is critical for a cruise, say travel attorneys.

Why? Mishaps at sea are governed by 19th-Century maritime law, making it hard to win any lawsuit, even for injury or medical mishaps. Cruise lines' passage contracts limit or deny liability for anything that might go wrong on a ship, whether it's missed ports, personal injury, theft, blunders by doctors, beauticians or gym instructors, injury on a shore excursion, even bad food.

If your ship does not touch a U.S. port, you have even less protection.

Here's what the Princess contract says: "The ship has the right to confine you to your room or disembark you at any time if its personnel decides your presence might be detrimental to your health or someone else's."

You pay first

By the fourth day, Panos was feeling better. A doctor told him he had gotten a gastric infection but was not contagious. He was ready to rejoin the cruise, which had cost the couple $7,000. But the Grand Princess had long departed.

The only option was to find a way to get home.

That's when they found out their $92 bare-bones travel insurance policy wouldn't cover Boike's $1,300 plane ticket from Turkey to Detroit or the cost of the unused portion of their trip.

Also, it wouldn't pay medical costs up front. Panos would have to pay $4,800 to the hospital.

While declining to comment specifically on this case, Buggy of Travelex said that's the way most travel insurance medical plans operate.

You pay first. They pay later.

'Somebody dropped the ball'

Early on Sept. 11, Panos paid Kusadasi Private Hospital $4,800 with his Visa card. They paid another 150 euros ($190) cash for a shuttle to the Izmir Airport 80 kilometers away. They flew to Istanbul, slept 7 hours overnight inside the airport, then flew to Frankfurt, then finally back to Detroit.

The couple has since written to Princess, asking to be reimbursed for Boike's $1,300 flight. They also want credit for the six days of the cruise they missed.

Most of all, they want an apology.

"The question we have is, where was customer care?" Panos says.

More than a month has now gone by. The couple has not heard from Princess, but the Princess statement to the Free Press disputes the couple's claims: "We regret that Mr. Panos is unhappy with the circumstances and events following his disembarkation. ... It is unfortunate that Mr. Panos did not have the proper travel insurance arrangements."

The ICCL's Michael Crye says it sounds like a giant misunderstanding.

Says Florida cruise industry analyst Stuart Chiron: "Somebody definitely dropped the ball."

Last week, Travelex paid up, reimbursing Panos for his $5,800 medical expenses on board and on land.

The Grand Princess left the Mediterranean on Wednesday to spend the winter cruising in the Caribbean out of Galveston, Texas.

Panos and Boike are cruising again. They'll take another one in Hawaii in December, on Celebrity.

But Panos says he has learned something that cruise lines definitely won't want passengers to hear:

"I learned that unless you are on death's door or break a leg, never go to the ship's doctor."

 

[PhotoLisa]

We've been on 3 Disney cruises before and each time, we have had to either turn around or divert for passenger transfer. We were always back on track quickly. On our western in 2004, we stopped in Nassau for about 30-40 minutes. On our eastern in 2001, we turned around.

 

[JerseyBelle]

How horrible for the family. Just out of curiosity, what did that do the itinerary? I've always wondered how they'd handle a serious emergency. Glad to hear that getting the sick person help is more important than the schedule.

Not much effect on the itinerary. We arrived Nassau a few hours later and stayed until 9:00 pm. It looked like according to the navigator, all the excursion scheduled through Disney were rescheduled later (not 100% sure if ALL). No real disruption in my book.

 

[kritter]

We were on the Magic on 10/28 and at sea and a helicopter landed to take a women off.

 

[lmok]

This scares me to death. So, not even all ship insurance would cover having to get off at port. I wonder what would happen if you did have an emergency and would have to get off and did not have a passport. How could you even fly home?

 

[mommasita]

This scares me to death. So, not even all ship insurance would cover having to get off at port. I wonder what would happen if you did have an emergency and would have to get off and did not have a passport. How could you even fly home?

I agree with you completely. It scares us as well. I believe that insurance would refund you if you had to get off at a port, and your expenditures there. I think the passport issue is a whole other can of worms. But a VERY valid point.

 

[kritter]

We heard on our cruise that it was 15,000.00 to get air lifted off of the ship.The poor women was on her honeymoon..

 

[Mom323]

Here's a link to the article.

"On a cruise, law of the sea can be rocky"

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061105/FEATURES07/611050509/1032

Here's a link to a great article for help info.

"Coping with travel nightmares

5 Tips: What if your wallet gets stolen? What if your luggage gets lost? More..."


http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/14/pf/saving/summer_willis_travelnightmares/index.htm

 

[Skuba2]

We are members of Divers Alert Network (DAN). We used to dive a lot but haven't for years now. It is a non-profit organizations orignially developed to assist divers with diving accidents but has grown over the years to support all of it's members and the family traveling with them with any medical emergency. I believe it covers situations like this and is recognized worldwide. The nice thing is that you do not have to be a diver and it covers your family as well if you register them on your policy. They also offer trip insurance, etc. Luckily, we have never had to use it, but we know it is there if we need it. People generally don't know about this organization because they aren't divers.


DG

 

[inkkognito]

In 53 Disney cruises, we have had medical emergencies twice that I know of. One was a crew member, and we made an unscheduled port stop to drop them off for medical care. The other was recently, when someone had to be taken off Castaway Cay. I heard it was a child, and that makes sense as when I was on the adult beach, CMs kept coming by looking for a particular set of parents.